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Well so much for "Ukraine won't be a part of Nato" which was a promise made to Russia to placate them. Now that's out the window & Putin is on a roll! God help us all!!
 

petros

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Well so much for "Ukraine won't be a part of Nato" which was a promise made to Russia to placate them. Now that's out the window & Putin is on a roll! God help us all!!
September. Its on. NATO is going in officially.

Strategic and tactical air defense systems are currently enroute. Those are cover for flying deep bombing runs.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Well so much for "Ukraine won't be a part of Nato" which was a promise made to Russia to placate them. Now that's out the window & Putin is on a roll! God help us all!!
It's rare that I agree with petros on anything, but locking up Russia inside its borders is a good thing.

When I was a kid, people who knew you had a really big friend (or a crew) tended not to give you any shit.

Why do you think Putin didn't start his "re-build the Soviet Union" drive with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania? They're small countries, couldn't resist Russia for more'n a week. Except for their crew and their really big friend.
 

petros

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It's rare that I agree with petros on anything, but locking up Russia inside its borders is a good thing.

When I was a kid, people who knew you had a really big friend (or a crew) tended not to give you any shit.

Why do you think Putin didn't start his "re-build the Soviet Union" drive with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania? They're small countries, couldn't resist Russia for more'n a week. Except for their crew and their really big friend.
 

Ron in Regina

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NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg underlined that Ukraine will not join the alliance's ranks immediately. But he insisted that must happen after the war is over to ensure that Russia never attacks Ukraine again.

Of the overall NATO assistance, he said, "We are not doing this because we want to prolong a war. We are doing it because we want to end a war as soon as possible."
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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People seem to forget the original purpose of NATO and the Warsaw Pact. It was an agreement between the U.S. and the Soviet Union that the next war would be fought in Europe.
 

Ron in Regina

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People seem to forget the original purpose of NATO and the Warsaw Pact.
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union. NATO was the first peacetime military alliance the United States entered into outside of the Western Hemisphere.

The Warsaw Pact was put in place as a consequence of the rearming of West Germany inside NATO. Soviet leaders, like many European leaders on both sides of the Iron Curtain, feared Germany being once again a military power and a direct threat.
It was an agreement between the U.S. and the Soviet Union that the next war would be fought in Europe.
NATO involved the participation of the countries of Eastern Europe, while the Warsaw Pact involved Western Europe. The Warsaw Pact was primarily a military agreement, while NATO was primarily an economic agreement.

The Warsaw Pact was created in reaction to the integration of West Germany into NATO in 1955 and represented a Soviet counterweight to NATO, composed of the Soviet Union and seven other Soviet satellite states in Central and Eastern Europe.

NATO’s creation was part of a broader effort to serve three purposes: deterring Soviet expansionism, forbidding the revival of nationalist militarism in Europe through a strong North American presence on the continent, and encouraging European political integration.
 
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Ron in Regina

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People seem to forget the original purpose of NATO and the Warsaw Pact. It was an agreement between the U.S. and the Soviet Union that the next war would be fought in Europe.
Somehow…climate change spending will count as defence spending Trudeau will claim/propose?
View attachment 23141Or Canada will pledge to start bringing in 3 million people per year for the next 10 years until our GDP is so low that the current military spending far exceeds 2% of GDP?
United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union.
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