Multiple people stabbed on train

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A train has been stopped in Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire, after several people were stabbed.

The LNER train was travelling from Newcastle to London and was stopped by armed Cambridgeshire Police and British Transport Police at Huntingdon station after multiple people were stabbed.

Two men have been arrested - one was tasered by police - and it's not yet been confirmed how many were stabbed and if there have been fatalities.

 
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Police confirm that 10 people were stabbed with 9 in life-threatening conditions and one less serious on an LNER train travelling from Hull to London that was stopped by police in Huntingdon.

 

Ron in Regina

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They catch the lunatic yet? Do those ten get their £6.50 refunded? The fee from the Peterborough to Huntingdon portion of that trip I mean? From wherever to Peterborough, no refund, but Peterborough to Huntingdon…maybe?
 

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The papers here say 10 people were injured. Still sounds weird to me. Whatever happened to the word "wounded?"

Well here's what we now know so far...

Two British nationals arrested on suspicion of attempted murder​

Supt John Loveless of the British Transport Police (BTP) says armed officers boarded the train and arrested two people within eight minutes of the 999 calls.

There are two men in police custody.

They are a 32-year-old black British male and 35-year-old British national of Caribbean descent.

They have been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder.

Two people remain in life-threatening condition​

Loveless says 10 people were initially taken to hospital, with one more person self-presenting at hospital later in the evening.

Of the nine people believed to have life-threatening injuries, four have since been discharged. Two people remain in a life-threatening condition.

"At this stage, there is nothing to suggest that this is a terrorist incident," Loveless says. "At this stage, it would not be appropriate to speculate on the cause of this incident."

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How the attack unfolded​

Throughout the day we've been hearing from eyewitnesses, about what they saw, and police about how they dealt with this incident.

Let's now look at how the stabbings unfolded, based on timings that've been shared by those people.

  • At 18:25, the LNER Azuma train leaves Doncaster station in South Yorkshire, making a routine journey south to London King's Cross. It's dark outside and the train is not crowded, witnesses say
  • Approximately an hour later, eyewitness Olly Foster says he heard people shouting "run, run, there's a guy literally stabbing everyone". Within minutes, people start pushing through the carriage
  • The first distress calls reach Cambridgeshire police at 19:39. A few minutes later, at 19:42, British Transport Police records their first call
  • Eight minutes later, at around 19:50, the train makes an unscheduled stop in Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire, and armed police board the train and arrest two men
  • The train remains stationary at Platform 2 as police establish a crime scene and ambulances rush those injured to hospital
  • Just before 23:00, images show unharmed passengers being put on buses and taken to London, where their journey was meant to end

King and Queen 'appalled and shocked' by train stabbing attack​

We've just received a statement from King Charles III in response to last night's incident. Here it is in full:

"My wife and I were truly appalled and shocked to hear of the dreadful knife attack that took place on board a train in Cambridgeshire last night.

"Our deepest sympathy and thoughts are with all those affected, and their loved ones.

"We are particularly grateful to the emergency services for their response to this awful incident."

 

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British Transport Police declared a “major incident” and briefly activated the “Plato” terror response code, later rescinded. The motive remains unknown, and authorities have not released names of those involved.


‘The British State Is Complicit’ | Ten In Hospital After Multiple Train Stabbings In Huntingdon

Mark Dolan speaks with the Leader of Restore Britain, Rupert Lowe.

Lowe is the MP for Great Yarmouth and was a Reform UK MP before being kicked out of the party by leader Nigel Farage. Lowe set up the new party Restore Britain shortly afterwards.

 

Ron in Regina

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Loveless states, “Both were born in the United Kingdom” and from the outside looking in, the fact that he had to state that speaks of different issues going on. Also that the ethnicity of both attackers is mentioned.
They are a 32-year-old black British male and 35-year-old British national of Caribbean descent.
Then stating that there’s no reason to suspect terrorism at this point makes me wonder how the term “terrorism” is being defined in this situation.
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-Violence…✅
-Create fear…✅
-Targeting non-combatants or civilians…✅
-Advancing a cause?
-Widespread insecurity and undermining public confidence…✅

The last video in post#11 is almost entirely about immigration and economic migrants versus refugees. So what is the story that’s being told here with the facts that are & aren’t being mentioned? What’s happening over there?
 
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British Transport Police have ruled out terrorism in a knife attack on a train Saturday night that left 11 people wounded including two who have life-threatening injuries.
-Violence…✅
-Create fear…✅
-Targeting non-combatants or civilians…✅
-Advancing a cause?
-Widespread insecurity and undermining public confidence…✅
Police said on Sunday that two men have been arrested: a 32-year-old and a 35-year-old.

Officials were also quick to note that both men were British born and point out their ethnicity, something that has become increasingly common among British police forces to avoid online speculation.

The younger man is Black and the older one is a British national of Caribbean descent, police said. However, they have yet to determine what motivated the attack.
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If they haven’t determined what motivated the attack, then how do they rule out terrorism?

Counter terrorism police were initially called to join the investigation, but by Sunday morning those officers had been pulled out.

“At this stage, there is nothing to suggest that this is a terrorist incident,” said Superintendent John Loveless of the British Transport Police which is conducting the investigation. “We continue work to establish the full circumstances and motivation for this incident. At this early stage it would not be appropriate to speculate on the causes of the incident.”
From the above link, “The attack is the latest in a series of deadly stabbings that have put the country on edge.”

Last week a 49-year-old man was killed and two others injured in a knife attack in London. An Afghan refugee who came to the U.K. in 2020 has been arrested.

Last month, two men died and three men were injured in an attack at a synagogue in Manchester during Yom Kippur services. A Syrian-born man was shot at the scene by police.
 
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Loveless states, “Both were born in the United Kingdom” and from the outside looking in, the fact that he had to state that speaks of different issues going on. Also that the ethnicity of both attackers is mentioned.

Then stating that there’s no reason to suspect terrorism at this point makes me wonder how the term “terrorism” is being defined in this situation.
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-Violence…✅
-Create fear…✅
-Targeting non-combatants or civilians…✅
-Advancing a cause?
-Widespread insecurity and undermining public confidence…✅

The last video in post#11 is almost entirely about immigration and economic migrants versus refugees. So what is the story that’s being told here with the facts that are & aren’t being mentioned? What’s happening over there?

I've also been thinking how it can't be classed as terrorism.

The knifeman seemingly attacked complete strangers at random. How can it not be terrorism?

It wouldn't surprise me if they soon come out with the old gem: "He is mentally ill."
 

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One suspect released without charge

The BTP say a 35-year-old man arrested after a mass stabbing attack on a train is no longer a suspect.

A 32-year-old Briton remains in custody on suspicion of attempted murder.

Two people are fighting for their lives after they were stabbed on a London King's Cross-bound Azuma train from Doncaster on Saturday night.

An LNER (London North Eastern Railway) employee has been described as a hero after he stepped in to defend passengers. He remains critical in hospital.

 
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I've also been thinking how it can't be classed as terrorism.

The knifeman seemingly attacked complete strangers at random. How can it not be terrorism?
Well, was his motivation:
1) to coerce the government?
2) advance a cause?

Without announcing the motivation, the above answer is missing, and Bob’s your uncle.😉
It wouldn't surprise me if they soon come out with the old gem: "He is mentally ill."
The public and media often lazily attribute terrorist acts to mental illness as a way to make sense of horrific events, but this is a misconception not supported by empirical evidence.

While the majority of terrorists who act within groups do not have a mental illness, lone-actor terrorists are more likely to have a history of mental health issues, with some studies showing a significantly higher prevalence rate in this specific subgroup. However, even in these cases, mental illness is often a contributing vulnerability factor among many others (such as perceived injustice, need for identity, or social isolation), not the sole cause.
 
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The dramatic moment cops tasered the suspect at Huntingdon station as he shouted "Kill me! Kill me!".

 

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Well, that sounds like the epitome of mental stability. Nothing to see here and no need to release a motive. Definitely not terrorism. Move along.
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