Mountain pine beetles transition to new species

Tonington

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The pine beetles are in the beginning phase of a massive range expansion. Winter temperatures are now rarely cold enough to keep the beetle larvae in check, and every year the beetles kill more lodgepole pine. This expansion in range has brought them to the forests in Alberta, where the forest transitions from lodgepole into jack pine in a hybridized forest. The worry has been that the mountain pine beetle might be able to infect other pines, such as jack pine, which stretches across the Canadian shield and as far East as Nova Scotia.

A study published this May tested individuals from this hybrid forest. It had been very difficult to distinguish between the lodgepoles, the jack pines, and their hybrids, even using a wide array of molecular biology techniques. This new study used something called microsatellite markers; this technique identifies repeating units of DNA in the non-coding region of a gene. Over time, populations tend towards a value that characterize the entire population. This technique has been used to distinguish between hybrids for many other species.

The team was able to successfully distinguish between the hybrids and the jack and lodgepole pines. With this important step covered, they began to test the hybrid forest for evidence of beetle transition. They tested 678 trees from 25 different locations, and found evidence for the first time of pupal chambers in the jack pine, indicating that the insects had completed their larval stages in the jack pine.

This finding is a critical first step. Forest management best practices will depend now on what further information can be learned from this initial finding. Here's some figures that illustrate the potential damage this expansion in range could represent:


In the left pane, the range of the lodgepole pine. In the right pane, the jack pine range.

Reference:
CULLINGHAM, C. I., COOKE, J. E. K., DANG, S., DAVIS, C. S., COOKE, B. J. and COLTMAN, D. W. (2011), Mountain pine beetle host-range expansion threatens the boreal forest. Molecular Ecology, 20: 2157–2171. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-294X.2011.05086.x
 

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That's just wonderful.:( Now even more species of trees are at risk. The ash tree is basically wiped out, the mountain pine is in dire straits, and now this? Stupid freaking bugs!
 

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With each type so close in genetics, was it really a suprise?

Well, being close doesn't mean all that much sometimes. There are ectoparasites of salmonids that show concordance in susceptibility amongst very distant relations, and a dis-concordance amongst more closely related species. Some parasites are highly species specific and others are not. There's no rule for it. There was hope that it wouldn't be transitive in this case. It's unfortunate that the pine beetle is.
 

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Well, being close doesn't mean all that much sometimes. There are ectoparasites of salmonids that show concordance in susceptibility amongst very distant relations, and a dis-concordance amongst more closely related species. Some parasites are highly species specific and others are not. There's no rule for it. There was hope that it wouldn't be transitive in this case. It's unfortunate that the pine beetle is.

So is it evolving then? Limited food supply - that does force changes in a species to adapt. Yes??
 

Tonington

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Old News-they jumped the Rockies some time ago via the jet stream and it was always thought they'd like taste of jackpine

Thought being the key word. Why else do you think the scientists would be testing this hypothesis?
 

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B.S. and yes,I did work on the mountain pine beetle infestation in Alberta way back in 1979 when I started out logging,so much mis info on this that it boggles the mind,there beetles,they have mass migrations just like all other bugs do and every 7 or so years they start looking for new forests.You cant stop them,the whole program is a huge waste of taxpayers dollars but the forestry boys have to have something to do to justify getting a paycheque while doing nothing.

Old News-they jumped the Rockies some time ago via the jet stream and it was always thought they'd like taste of jackpine-the boreal forest is buggered now.
Yup,from the flathead range starting in Montana,then up the flathead valley in B.C. and over the mountain to West castle,lost creek drainage and Waterton park and all in 3 years.
 

Tonington

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B.S. and yes,I did work on the mountain pine beetle infestation in Alberta way back in 1979 when I started out logging,so much mis info on this that it boggles the mind,there beetles,they have mass migrations just like all other bugs do and every 7 or so years they start looking for new forests.

Ahh, so you have evidence that they were infecting jack pine? I call BS on that one. There have been multiple localized outbreaks in Alberta, who is denying that?

One wonders exactly what it is you think is BS...
 

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Tonington: I just glanced through the material, don't have time to study it but am curious if you know the average age of the infected trees? I logged a bunch of beetle kill around Boston Bar about 12 years ago and the majority seamed to be over mature/ decadent wood. Is there a relationship?
 

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Ahh, so you have evidence that they were infecting jack pine? I call BS on that one. There have been multiple localized outbreaks in Alberta, who is denying that?

One wonders exactly what it is you think is BS...
They attack spruce to when they are migrating,anything with a low sap flow which is usually older trees,young pine will kick the beetles out with pure sap flow,thats what makes all those sap tubes on young pine trees.
Mountain pine beetle isnt rocket science as is much of nature,go with the flow Torrington.
 

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I logged a bunch of beetle kill around Boston Bar about 12 years ago and the majority seamed to be over mature/ decadent wood. Is there a relationship?

Yes, and that's all part of the management strategy...knowing what they will infect, and which trees are more or less susceptible may not be rocket science, but it's still science, and scientists communicate risk, amongst other roles they fill. Conditions are changing, and anyone who denies that has their head in the sand.
 

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Yes, and that's all part of the management strategy...knowing what they will infect, and which trees are more or less susceptible may not be rocket science, but it's still science, and scientists communicate risk, amongst other roles they fill. Conditions are changing, and anyone who denies that has their head in the sand.

Most of us accept that conditions are changing as they always have and always will. It is the cause of change that we take issue with.
 

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Most of us accept that conditions are changing as they always have and always will.

Yes. Things are always changing. But they aren't always changing in ways that cause fundamental ecosystem shifts.
 

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Yes. Things are always changing. But they aren't always changing in ways that cause fundamental ecosystem shifts.

This will cause a monumental shift in ecosystems. Not hard to see and then the economic impact will be huge. Trees act as carbon sinks so there is another one. Water filtration - spawning for fish and on and on.
 

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Yes, and that's all part of the management strategy...knowing what they will infect, and which trees are more or less susceptible may not be rocket science, but it's still science, and scientists communicate risk, amongst other roles they fill. Conditions are changing, and anyone who denies that has their head in the sand.
Bull,they go after pine first and in a big infestation they will hit anything including spruce trees.Conditions have nothing to do with it,it's a cyclical thing.
There's also absolutely nothing you or anyone can do about it,sit back,crack a beer and relax.
Sad thing is our tax dollars go to keep the forestry boys employed on the beetle kill program and it's a colossal waste of money,you cant screw with mother nature,sit back and let it balance things out.
 

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Bull,they go after pine first and in a big infestation they will hit anything including spruce trees.Conditions have nothing to do with it,it's a cyclical thing.

Conditions have plenty to do with it. Conditions and parameters have everything to do with biological systems. And they are changing. It's documented. If the winter mortality is way down because winter temperatures are warmer, that has consequences. Your protests to the contrary are bull sh!t.

Sitting back and doing nothing when we have useful information is a great management plan...if you're an idiot.
 

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Conditions have plenty to do with it. Conditions and parameters have everything to do with biological systems. And they are changing. It's documented. If the winter mortality is way down because winter temperatures are warmer, that has consequences. Your protests to the contrary are bull sh!t.

Sitting back and doing nothing when we have useful information is a great management plan...if you're an idiot.
A couple of years ago I was at the summit between Little Fort and 100 Mile House. From there I could see fairly vast expanse of land in the Southern Caribou. What I saw was mostly brown forest inter-dispersed with a few green areas.

Back in the70s and 80s Forestry created (at the time) the largest clear cut on the planet between Baron Lake Park and McBride. They made a road through this area to a bug infestation at the farthest reaches and dragged the logs out, thus spreading the beetles over the maximum area they possibly could. They spent years chasing those beetles. Over 200 truckloads a day came down the Barkerville Highway. Now that the climate has warmed up, that little stunt has come back to bite them on the ass Big Time!

All these college grads had a management plan. Only problem is, they didn't know their ass from their elbow in a real forest. All they knew was book learnin' that was paid for by the logging industry which profits from the rape of our forests. I have about as much respect for them as I do the pharmaceutical industry. Short term profit is not a good motivating factor when managing nature, whether it is the health of echo systems or our personal health. Sorry Ton, but I have seen way too many major screw ups from "Degrees".
 

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Conditions have plenty to do with it. Conditions and parameters have everything to do with biological systems. And they are changing. It's documented. If the winter mortality is way down because winter temperatures are warmer, that has consequences. Your protests to the contrary are bull sh!t.

Sitting back and doing nothing when we have useful information is a great management plan...if you're an idiot.

The forest industry also has to change their planting patterns. Now they plant fast growing, quick to harvest trees.
When a disease hits – pine bettle etc – it spreads rapidly – Bio diversity is basically nonexistent on replanted areas.