Judge Denies Bail for Convoy Leader over Intention to Cause Harm

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I can see why King and Lich were denied bail.

Pretty sure leg irons are standard for any prisoner, though I agree it is a little much.
No leg irons are not standard , it was all theatre .And the only reason they were denied bail was embarrassing Trudeau and his Liberal caucus .
 

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Still has a nice ring to it. Western voices are sorely missing in Ottawa.

Thats 106 western mp's in Ottawa as of right now. That will be going up to 111 seats around April 2024. If you look at the population percentages, seats are fairly evenly distributed across the country except for nfld, pei, and the territories. Or are you one of those that thinks western votes should be worth more than eastern votes?
 

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No leg irons are not standard , it was all theatre .And the only reason they were denied bail was embarrassing Trudeau and his Liberal caucus .
And how exactley did lich and king embarass trudeau and his caucus?
 

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And how exactley did lich and king embarass trudeau and his caucus?
Enough that Trudeau fled to an undisclosed location out of country to hide . Enough that the worldwide press was focusing and reporting factually . Enough that no liberals or NDP took the knee and showed solidarity with these working class patriotic Canadians . Fled and hide , hey just like you never answer a civil question . When and where did you see me breaking off about Socialism , communism or Marxism ?
 

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Enough that Trudeau fled to an undisclosed location out of country to hide . Enough that the worldwide press was focusing and reporting factually . Enough that no liberals or NDP took the knee and showed solidarity with these working class patriotic Canadians . Fled and hide , hey just like you never answer a civil question ……
I thought be was in the secret underground lair under Ottawa, like the Bat-Cave for Batman…I mean BatPeople…’cuz it’s 2015.
 
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I thought be was in the secret underground lair under Ottawa, like the Bat-Cave for Batman…I mean BatPeople…’cuz it’s 2015.
Not that I particularly like giving him credit for anything, but he was doing exactly what he was supposed to do. Not cowtowing to a bunch of whiney suckholes where the majority of their whines the feds had no control over. Plus they weren't even smart enough to keep it legal for even one day. Then they went from traffic violations to blockading border crossings and disrupting businesses and peoples livley hoods. Something they accused the feds of doing, but I guess it's ok for them to do it but not the government.
 

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Not that I particularly like giving him credit for anything, but he was doing exactly what he was supposed to do. Not cowtowing to a bunch of whiney suckholes where the majority of their whines the feds had no control over. Plus they weren't even smart enough to keep it legal for even one day. Then they went from traffic violations to blockading border crossings and disrupting businesses and peoples livley hoods. Something they accused the feds of doing, but I guess it's ok for them to do it but not the government.
Not only a racist , but a liar as well . The mall was closed by the city ofOttawa and the Ambassador Bridge border was closed by O P P .
 

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Saw this on FB....and since they only allow truth, it must be......

No matter what you think of the truck convoy, these comments from former Ft. MacMurray MP Brian Jean are worth thinking about.
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“You may disagree with the convoy. You may rightly recognize that some of the people involved in the convoy are distasteful or worse.
You may not like Tamara Lich. She may actually be guilty of counselling mischief -- but that hasn’t been proven in court.
But you should still be worried that Tamara Lich isn’t being treated fairly by the courts. And you have to ask why?
When in Canadian history has anyone been kept in jail indefinitely before a trial for mischief? And in this case, she has only been charged with counselling mischief not actually doing any mischief herself.
I did some criminal defense law for many years. I have seen some very nasty, very dangerous people released on bail for serious violent offenses. I can’t remember seeing a normal person with no criminal background kept in jail pending trial on what are obviously minor charges.
Tamara doesn’t own a rig. She doesn't have an air horn to honk. She got a lift to Ottawa with an actual trucker. She seemed eager to get there to express the frustrations that many Albertans share.
At the beginning of the trip, Lich started a GoFundMe campaign for the convoy. It went "viral" and it captured the imagination and the donations of more Canadians than donate to any political party in any year.
As near as I can tell, that's Lich’s real crime. She is in jail because she became the viral financial symbol of the anger of millions of Canadians.
I don’t know Tamara Lich. But I do know a few trusted Albertans who have known her for years. They all say she is pretty much a normal Albertan. Five foot one. Metis. Motherly worry-about-other-people, salt of the earth type. They say she has strong political passions but not much actual political experience or political sophistication.
I have listened to interviews with accountants or lawyers who tried to help some of the normal people involved in the “tiger-by-the-tail” that was the convoy. They make it clear that Lich was working hard to follow the rules on dealing with the money.
By the way, almost none of those millions raised ever got to the truckers, the banks and the government stopped them. All that money is still frozen by a court order. Held for the possible benefit of the people and the lawyers doing a class action suit against the truckers. Lich can’t return the money to donors. She can’t even use it to defend herself.
How Tamara Lich is being treated is not normal under Canadian law.
Every Canadian should be worried. Worried that someone with no criminal history, who isn’t a flight risk, is being kept in jail for minor charges in a non-violent crime, for what appear to be political reasons.
Every Canadian who cares deeply about any political issue should be worried.
Every Canadian who might someday have that one protest idea that unexpectedly “goes viral,” should be deeply concerned about this very bad precedent.”
 

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Sounds like the trucktards have their own bargain-basement Jeanne d'Arc (Joan of Arc).

Foolish of the courts to give them a propaganda tool.
 

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Also blown away this week was the Liberals’ insistence that the Freedom Convoy was being financed by well-funded foreign and domestic organizations, many with white supremist connections.

Two weeks ago, Barry MacKillop, deputy director of the federal government anti-terror funding and money-laundering unit told the same committee his investigators could find no evidence that convoy donors were intent on overthrowing the government.

And this week, executives from crowdfunding sites, GoFundMe and GiveSendGo, told the committee the same thing.

Donors were nearly 90% Canadian. They mostly gave small amounts. And there was no evidence that, say, neo-Nazis were underwriting the protests.

There never was a legitimate reason to invoke the Emergencies Act. It was entirely an overreaction.

So with their initial arguments crumbling day by day, Mendicino doubled down with the outrageous claim that there were so many potential rapists in the truckers’ midst that the government had no choice but to impose the Emergencies Act. More at the LINK…
 
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Also blown away this week was the Liberals’ insistence that the Freedom Convoy was being financed by well-funded foreign and domestic organizations, many with white supremist connections.

Two weeks ago, Barry MacKillop, deputy director of the federal government anti-terror funding and money-laundering unit told the same committee his investigators could find no evidence that convoy donors were intent on overthrowing the government.

And this week, executives from crowdfunding sites, GoFundMe and GiveSendGo, told the committee the same thing.

Donors were nearly 90% Canadian. They mostly gave small amounts. And there was no evidence that, say, neo-Nazis were underwriting the protests.

There never was a legitimate reason to invoke the Emergencies Act. It was entirely an overreaction.

So with their initial arguments crumbling day by day, Mendicino doubled down with the outrageous claim that there were so many potential rapists in the truckers’ midst that the government had no choice but to impose the Emergencies Act. More at the LINK…
FinTrac released the data calling "bullshit" prior to the act being enacted.