JFK and RFK were opportunistic scumbags.

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he was a social justice man and he challenged the status quo... if corruption was what killed him, half of the States would have died along with him...

nothing is black and white...he was not a saint nor satan...
 

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he was a social justice man and he challenged the status quo... if corruption was what killed him, half of the States would have died along with him...

nothing is black and white...he was not a saint nor satan...

He fought corruption and lost
 

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he did yes, people weren't there yet or ready for what he envisioned

If you look at all the presidents since JFK bought the farm except for Obama, power, greed and money was a common factor. Only Obama has made social justice as a priority which the people are rejecting on a massive scale.
 

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Did you know Farrah Fawcett and Micheal Jackson died on the same day? Who got the most attention? Fame doesn't make for fair....

Yeah. I saw that on an episode of QI a few weeks ago when they were talking about famous people whose deaths were overshadowed by the death of someone else on the same day or a few days before.

Another example is the death of Mother Theresa, who died just five days after Britain's JFK moment - the death of Princess Diana.

When Mother Theresa died on the 5th September 1997 millions of people were too busy mourning the death of Princess Diana on the 31st August that Mother Theresa's death was almost completely overlooked.
 

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Did you know?

British authors C.S. Lewis (who gave us many great works, including The Chronicles of Narnia) and Aldous Huxley (who gave us works including the novel Brave New World) both died on the same day that Kennedy died.

Yet their deaths were overshadowed by the death of JFK, who achieved a lot less than Lewis and Huxley did.
The Kennedy Assassination ranks up there with 911 and Pearl Harbor as the top American news stories of the last 100 years. The Queen could've been assassinated that day and it would've been a footnote in the North American news.
 

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The Kennedy Assassination ranks up there with 911 and Pearl Harbor as the top American news stories of the last 100 years. The Queen could've been assassinated that day and it would've been a footnote in the North American news.

I doubt it. Had the Queen - the Head of State of more countries than JFK was - had been assassinated on the same day as JFK I think it's fairly certain that both deaths would have been given equal coverage around the world, bar possibly the USA (who would have focused on JFK) and Britain (who would have focused on QEII).
 

Kreskin

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I doubt it. Had the Queen - the Head of State of more countries than JFK was - had been assassinated on the same day as JFK I think it's fairly certain that both deaths would have been given equal coverage around the world, bar possibly the USA (who would have focused on JFK) and Britain (who would have focused on QEII).
Not a chance. America was in a major crisis. That will get the lead story in America any day above anything else.
 

Blackleaf

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Not a chance. America was in a major crisis. That will get the lead story in America any day above anything else.

That's what I said.

Likewise, had the Queen been assassinated in Britain on the very same day as JFK, her death would have overshadowed JFK's death in Britain.
 

Kreskin

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That's what I said.

Likewise, had the Queen been assassinated in Britain on the very same day as JFK, her death would have overshadowed JFK's death in Britain.
OK, perhaps I was thrown off by the 'I doubt it' before you actually didn't doubt it ;)
 

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You saw who I quoted didn't you?


Here it is again...

Aha, I guess I missed it. The government called them advisors but they were all in the military. That was what they were referred to at the time, not something made up and revised years later. It was all semantics.

nothing is black and white...he was not a saint nor satan...

Indeed. i liked that section of the eulogy Ted Kennedy gave for RFK.

Likewise, had the Queen been assassinated in Britain on the very same day as JFK, her death would have overshadowed JFK's death in Britain.

In Britain, perhaps. World wide? Not a chance. JFK was the head of state and commander in chief of the largest superpower during the Cold War. The Queen was a figurehead who would have been easily replaced. All her successor would be doing is going to ribbon cutting ceremonies, signing things and travelling. Kennedy and every other President from that time was regularly making life and death decisions for many people in many countries. Had one of them made a major mistake - nuclear holocaust. The Queen (and Britain as a whole) was nothing compared to that kind of power.
 

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In Britain, perhaps. World wide? Not a chance. JFK was the head of state and commander in chief of the largest superpower during the Cold War. The Queen was a figurehead who would have been easily replaced. All her successor would be doing is going to ribbon cutting ceremonies, signing things and travelling. Kennedy and every other President from that time was regularly making life and death decisions for many people in many countries. Had one of them made a major mistake - nuclear holocaust. The Queen (and Britain as a whole) was nothing compared to that kind of power.

Uh oh, now you've done it! Lol. Good for you;)
 

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Yet their deaths were overshadowed by the death of JFK, who achieved a lot less than Lewis and Huxley did.

He became President. Those guys wrote some good books, but he led a superpower.

Another odd coincidence. I think Andy Warhol was shot the same day as RFK. Warhol lived, Kennedy died. Too bad it didnt go the other way.