It's time to bring the death penalty back!

[petros]

I'd like to hang the prick that just sold my country off.

 

[JLM]

And just who defines what is the 'correct verdict'?

Not rocket science, it's not a matter of defining anything, it's just a matter of finding the innocent "not guilty" and finding the guilty, "guilty". In cases where there are shades of grey like multiple accompises, or the victim is partly the author of his own demise, you don't impose a death penalty.

 

[petros]

victim is partly the author of his own demise

Define that thoroughly.

 

[JLM]

No.... stupidest would be from those that talk about `moving forward" or "evolution" in one breath and in the next talk about advocating moving backwards by reintroducing draconian measures like the death penalty.

THAT is a matter of opinion- your analogy is poor. In the dark ages capital punishment wasn't always carried out in a professional manner. Since the abolishment in the '70s a lot of headway has been made, what with things like D.N.A. and cameras mounted at strategic locations. We should be using these tools to our benefit...................unless you don't mind paying $thousands every year just to keep one a$$hole like Clifford Olson.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Not rocket science, it's not a matter of defining anything, it's just a matter of finding the innocent "not guilty" and finding the guilty, "guilty". In cases where there are shades of grey like multiple accompises, or the victim is partly the author of his own demise, you don't impose a death penalty.

What about in cases where it takes two decades for abuse by the Crown
(false evidence by Law Enforcement, or a Crown Prosecutor try'n to make
a name for himself) where all doubt is buried by the authorities until it finds
the light of day past the corruption?

 

[petros]

JLM are you for allowing Dr's to put old people down like an old pet?

 

[petros]

THAT is a matter of opinion- your analogy is poor. In the dark ages capital punishment wasn't always carried out in a professional manner. Since the abolishment in the '70s a lot of headway has been made, what with things like D.N.A. and cameras mounted at strategic locations. We should be using these tools to our benefit...................unless you don't mind paying $thousands every year just to keep one a$$hole like Clifford Olson.

Ahhhh you're all about revenge and not Justice. For shame!

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Not rocket science, it's not a matter of defining anything, it's just a matter of finding the innocent "not guilty" and finding the guilty, "guilty". In cases where there are shades of grey like multiple accompises, or the victim is partly the author of his own demise, you don't impose a death penalty.

In the case of a ‘not guilty’ verdict, there will always be some people who will claim that justice was not served, that if unbiased jurors had been selected, the ‘correct verdict’ (i.e. the guilty verdict) would have been reached.

Conversely, if there is a guilty verdict, there will invariably be some who will claim that the jury was a bloodthirsty lot and if proper jury has been selected, they would have arrived at the correct verdict (i.e., not guilty verdict).

So whether the verdict was correct or not, will always be a matter of opinion. So again the question arises, just who decides that the jury has come up with the correct verdict? Who decides which jurors will come up with the correct verdict?

 

[gerryh]

Ahhhh you're all about revenge and not Justice. For shame!

EVERYBODY and ANYBODY that advocates bringing the death penalty back is ALL about revenge, not justice. This is a given.

 

[petros]

EVERYBODY and ANYBODY that advocates bringing the death penalty back is ALL about revenge, not justice. This is a given.

That would instantly disqualify them from jury duty. Go figure.

 

[JLM]

Uh huh, you keep thinking that. The more you two keep trying this age thing the more you make yourselves known that you have no more arguments or points in the subject of Capital Punishment, and question the poster's age and maturity because of their stance on the subject just drives the point further. You and VanIsle need to accept that there are people who are for capitla punishment, and that questioning a person's age and maturity just doesn't help your arguments or points, it makes you look like you're backed into a corner and are desperate for a counter-point, and jabbing at their person just lowers the quality of your posts

As for your possibilities, wrong on all three counts, you and Van can keep trying if it makes you feel better.

Exactly what kind of 'wrong opinion' you think I'm making of myself? If I take a side on a subject, I stand by it, pure and simple. And for your 'act like a normal person' thing. That's what people say when they have nothing else meaningful on a subject. You and VanIsle keep on you little jabs at my maturity, age and what ever else you two can come up with. Because as debaters/conversers it makes you two look like rank amateurs if that in my view.

I wasn't talking about your opinion, people's opinions are their own business and don't offend me and I don't think I've criticised anyone for their opinion. The way the opinion is delivered - well that's something different. It's not hard to disagree without being insulting.

 

[TenPenny]

Absolutely, the ones who can't get the verdict right.

That's hilarious.

So how do you define the 'right' verdict?

 

[JLM]

Very good points, and I agree.

You want to see a joke? Get this; a former co-worker of mine stabbed her friend in her apartment with a long knife and fled the scene. She was caught by police, arrested and sentenced to home confinment until her trial (she is allowed to leave the home for work, school and groceries). A year later at her trial the judge sentenced her to home confinment for three years with the year she already spent as time serving on her sentence. She came to work the following day and gloated to me and another co-worker of mine. She stabbed a person, left the scene, and never spent a single day in jail.

I assume the victim died and she was charged with murder?

 

[petros]

I assume the victim died and she was charged with murder?

Were in that entire papragraph ws there mention of death?

 

[TenPenny]

Were in that entire papragraph ws there mention of death?

Hey, I saw a guy who threatened someone with an office stapler, and he was executed.

 

[petros]

Hey, I saw a guy who threatened someone with an office stapler, and he was executed.

Boss didn't like that I take it?

 

[JLM]

What about in cases where it takes two decades for abuse by the Crown
(false evidence by Law Enforcement, or a Crown Prosecutor try'n to make
a name for himself) where all doubt is buried by the authorities until it finds
the light of day past the corruption?

I would never advocate capital punishment where the evidence presented is not "squeaky clean" or presented in a "squeaky clean" manner. It would have to be proof supported by D.N.A. or photography and backed up by corroborating evidence. You even have to be very careful with "reliable eye witnesses".

 

[TenPenny]

I would never advocate capital punishment where the evidence presented is not "squeaky clean" or presented in a "squeaky clean" manner. It would have to be proof supported by D.N.A. or photography and backed up by corroborating evidence. You even have to be very careful with "reliable eye witnesses".

So who would determine when this burden of proof was reached, in order for the death penalty to apply?

 

[JLM]

EVERYBODY and ANYBODY that advocates bringing the death penalty back is ALL about revenge, not justice. This is a given.

OH- and the death of a heinous serial murderer who murdered (and tortured) eleven innocent children would NOT be justice??????????????????????

 

[JLM]

Were in that entire papragraph ws there mention of death?

There wasn't, nor was there a mention of the charge, so naturally I felt I couldn't correctly make any assumptions, but the thought crossed my mind due to the apparent disgust at the sentence that possibly murder had been committed. Hope that clears things up.