It's time to bring the death penalty back!

JLM

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If you read through the stats, this is exactly what happens - the percentage of guilty verdicts in first degree murder cases went up when the death penalty was eliminated, and criminologists believed this was exactly the reason why - juries don't want to be responsible for killing a person.

THAT is very simple to remedy, if they are squeamish about the death penalty, they should be disqualified for cases deserving of the death penalty and use them for manslaughter cases.
 

JLM

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So, juries should be selected based on their likelihood to result in a guilty verdict?

That's a new take on justice.

Well, that takes the cake for the stupidest statement so far today. JURIES should be selected on their likelihood of reaching the correct verdict.
 

gerryh

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Well, that takes the cake for the stupidest statement so far today. JURIES should be selected on their likelihood of reaching the correct verdict.


No.... stupidest would be from those that talk about `moving forward" or "evolution" in one breath and in the next talk about advocating moving backwards by reintroducing draconian measures like the death penalty.
 

Starscream

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I don't have an inkling how old you are but I can see where VanIsle is coming from. She's definitely hit on a strong possibility. I think there are three possibilities given you confrontational style, one is you are very young, two is you are so young, but your mentality hasn't progressed since you were a teenager and three you are a crusty old fart (we have one of those here, maybe a left over from the Klondike) So if you don't want people to get the wrong opinion about you act like a normal person.

Uh huh, you keep thinking that. The more you two keep trying this age thing the more you make yourselves known that you have no more arguments or points in the subject of Capital Punishment, and question the poster's age and maturity because of their stance on the subject just drives the point further. You and VanIsle need to accept that there are people who are for capitla punishment, and that questioning a person's age and maturity just doesn't help your arguments or points, it makes you look like you're backed into a corner and are desperate for a counter-point, and jabbing at their person just lowers the quality of your posts

As for your possibilities, wrong on all three counts, you and Van can keep trying if it makes you feel better.

Exactly what kind of 'wrong opinion' you think I'm making of myself? If I take a side on a subject, I stand by it, pure and simple. And for your 'act like a normal person' thing. That's what people say when they have nothing else meaningful on a subject. You and VanIsle keep on you little jabs at my maturity, age and what ever else you two can come up with. Because as debaters/conversers it makes you two look like rank amateurs if that in my view.
 

Starscream

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There are two very good reasons to execute criminals.
1- There is zero possibility of repeat offenders.
2- Taxpayers do not have to support them.
The real problem is our soft on crime liberal joke of a justice system that gives criminals more rights than victims.

Very good points, and I agree.

You want to see a joke? Get this; a former co-worker of mine stabbed her friend in her apartment with a long knife and fled the scene. She was caught by police, arrested and sentenced to home confinment until her trial (she is allowed to leave the home for work, school and groceries). A year later at her trial the judge sentenced her to home confinment for three years with the year she already spent as time serving on her sentence. She came to work the following day and gloated to me and another co-worker of mine. She stabbed a person, left the scene, and never spent a single day in jail.
 

Starscream

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What rights does a criminal have, that a victim doesn't?

I'm not sure if the criminal as any more 'rights' per say. After all they are confined to a cell so freedom of movement they don't have. Freedom of speech? Yeah they can say pretty much whatever they want, but can be punished by being sent into solitary by the warden. Can convicted criminals vote?
 

SirJosephPorter

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So, juries should be selected based on their likelihood to result in a guilty verdict?

That's a new take on justice.

Quite so, any discussion about death penalty usually degenerates into such absurdities. Which really tells me that the whole idea of death penalty is ridiculous and barbaric.