It's time to bring the death penalty back!
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Thanks Cliff...I downloaded it (thank goodness it was text!)...wow, 96 pages! I skimmed it quickly but will take the time to read it over the next few days (busy as hell right now)...thanks for supplying the link!
Nothing wrong with me wanting to have capital punishment back. Care to explain yourself why I shouldn't?
It really doesn't matter if you want it or not. You are free to have any opinion you want to. But killing someone for any reason is murder. But that is not why we don't do it any more. Prisoners are worth more alive than dead. Read the pdf I posted the link to in my post #138. Maybe then you might understand why you wish will not be fulfilled.
Make their deaths count so why not make it count and put them through medical experiments that you wouldn’t put a dog through and let them save lives.
The torture they would go through would be a good crime deterrent
The torture they would go through would be a good crime deterrent
I do in certain instances, but the proof has to be conclusive or failing that the recipient has to be guilty of multiple offenses, in the unlikely event he was innocent of one of them. A classic example would be Clifford Olson- he showed the cops where some of the bodies were buried (for $100,000). If they'd have hanged then the taxpayer could have gotten their back. One poster asked if one would be willing to administer it. Silly question, if it was one of my grand children he hurt you couldn't hold me back.
Your post gave me pause for thought, JLM. Were I Leslie Mahaffy's Mom, I just might feel the same way too, though I don't know where she stands on capital punishment - and I don't claim to speak for her. Were it my child who had been tortured and killed by Holmolka and her husband, I very well might have taken justice into my own hands, given the opportunity.
I'm pretty sure most people would. What decent person could turn their back on the murder/torture of their own child to the benefit of human slime like Homolka and Bernardo?
What holmolka did to her own sister is so far beyond my comprehension that I shudder every time I think about it. She may be out of jail and living under an assumed name but she will never be 'free'.
In her case, capital punishment might have been too easy, let her live with the knowledge of her crimes every single day. Let her live as an outcast.
People have short memories. She has no conscience- beyond being an outcast possibly with her own family I'm pretty sure she's assimilated right back into society.
How ironic, I didn't realize there was that definition. I've alway understood it to mean become an accepted part of (more or less). I'll bet 99% of those passing her on the street don't even recognize her now. That whole trial was a real charade, corrupt to the fullest degree- you don't plea bargain scum like that. If they'd have told her "it's off to Old Sparky unless you sing" (hypothetically as the death penalty didn't exist) they'd have both her and Bernardo safely warehoused.
It was not a silly question I asked JLM. It was DEAD serious. Most everyone says the samething as you do. If it was one of my -------. I'm asking are you willing to be the executioner, the one who inflicts capital punishment in pursuance of a legal warrant?
I am not asking if you are willing to protect your family. We all are.
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The second definition of the word is the one you are thinking of, JLM - at least in Merriam-Webster.
I was absolutely heart-broken for the Mahaffy family when the truth finally came out about the tapes. It wasn't just the family that was betrayed by the courts, we all were.
My faith in the justice system in Canada has really faltered over the years, JLM. I know that for the most part our system works well. However, when it fails, it does so in such spectacular manner that it leaves one almost breathless, as was the case here.
The death penalty as justice is an oxymoron. Justice is not applying a tit-for-tat mentality. VI's question is legitimate. Should we not be willing to do do what we ask others to do in our name? All kinds of "punishments" have fallen by the wayside such as the boot, rack, and whip. Bringing those back would be less barbaric than the death penalty.
I seem to recall JLM that at the time, Holmolka was not even a suspect in the killings. In the beginning she managed to fool everyone into thinking she was a victim. While they did have her for some things - I don't recall but I think it was something like kidnapping or something like that and she bargined for her freedom by saying she would testify against her husband. Agreements were already in place by the time they found out what rot she was/is. It's a long time ago. Maybe it was that she was forced into the killing by Bernardo. I can't remember but I do know that the trial was not corrupt as you state. If I had the time I would search the story out and print the facts here. As it is, I have to go to work in a few minutes and don't have the time.