It's fun to shoot some people: US General

[Machjo]

Before we point fingures south of the border so quickly.

I used to be in infantry training in the Canadian army(dad pushed me into it to some degree), and you should have met some of the recruits and others on base! One man's dream was to join the Freemen some day so he could train them (I'm not kidding!) another had a tattoo of a neo-azi flag with the word 'skinhead' tattood on his neck and and also on his nuckles. And on his other arm was a tattoo of a british faschist with a Union Jack. And the names to describe people? Wow, 'long haired greacy sivvy' was among the more polite ones. The rest were racist slurs for every race immaginable. And then another one being a collector of nazi-era paraphernalia. OK, he could argue it's just for historical interest, but in such an environment, it's only natural that I'd have my doubts. Oh, sorry, I forgot about the Jews. 'Jew' was also a term of offence, immagine that! And none of these guys had ever seen combat yet! Oh, yes, and then we had the chant one day with the instructer yelling out to us as we were jogging, 'What's the spirit of the bayonet?' To which we'd all answer 'Kill! Kill! Kill!. And that's your blue berrets for you, being sent across the world to keep the peace! But man, when we were in civvy land, they were all so prim and proper, watched their vocabulary so well (it took me over a month out of the military to clean up my language!), covered their tattoos so beautifully, and it was just the perfect PR scene, so PC and all it would make you feel all fuzzy inside! Not to mention the promiscuity alcohol consumption of these men, also pushed by peer pressure, very group orieted bunch to say the least . Wow, don't let your daughter get near them!

So while I can praise Canada on many fronts, this is certainly ot one of them. Sorry to break this one to you , folks.

 

[Machjo]

Before we point fingures south of the border so quickly.

I used to be in infantry training in the Canadian army(dad pushed me into it to some degree), and you should have met some of the recruits and others on base! One man's dream was to join the Freemen some day so he could train them (I'm not kidding!) another had a tattoo of a neo-azi flag with the word 'skinhead' tattood on his neck and and also on his nuckles. And on his other arm was a tattoo of a british faschist with a Union Jack. And the names to describe people? Wow, 'long haired greacy sivvy' was among the more polite ones. The rest were racist slurs for every race immaginable. And then another one being a collector of nazi-era paraphernalia. OK, he could argue it's just for historical interest, but in such an environment, it's only natural that I'd have my doubts. Oh, sorry, I forgot about the Jews. 'Jew' was also a term of offence, immagine that! And none of these guys had ever seen combat yet! Oh, yes, and then we had the chant one day with the instructer yelling out to us as we were jogging, 'What's the spirit of the bayonet?' To which we'd all answer 'Kill! Kill! Kill!. And that's your blue berrets for you, being sent across the world to keep the peace! But man, when we were in civvy land, they were all so prim and proper, watched their vocabulary so well (it took me over a month out of the military to clean up my language!), covered their tattoos so beautifully, and it was just the perfect PR scene, so PC and all it would make you feel all fuzzy inside! Not to mention the promiscuity alcohol consumption of these men, also pushed by peer pressure, very group orieted bunch to say the least . Wow, don't let your daughter get near them!

So while I can praise Canada on many fronts, this is certainly ot one of them. Sorry to break this one to you , folks.

 

[peapod]

Machjo I don't think you are breaking any news to us. I do believe you about your experience in the canadian miltrary. You certainly are not the first. My X husband was a career miltrary person and I know what you say is true.

 

[peapod]

Machjo I don't think you are breaking any news to us. I do believe you about your experience in the canadian miltrary. You certainly are not the first. My X husband was a career miltrary person and I know what you say is true.

 

[peapod]

Machjo I don't think you are breaking any news to us. I do believe you about your experience in the canadian miltrary. You certainly are not the first. My X husband was a career miltrary person and I know what you say is true.

 

[Paranoid Dot Calm]

When I first read this article, I immediately thought of Lt. Gen. William Boykin, an evangelical Christian, who said his God was superior to that of the Muslims.

He said in one speech of a Somali warlord that "I knew that my god was bigger than his. I knew that my god was a real god and his was an idol"; he described the war on terrorism as a "spiritual battle," noting that "Satan wants to destroy this nation, he wants to destroy us as a nation, and he wants to destroy us as a Christian army"; and he famously described a dark section of a photograph of the Somali capital as the "evil" that is the real enemy. "It is not Osama bin Laden, it is the principalities of darkness. It is a spiritual enemy that will only be defeated if we come against them in the name of Jesus and pray for this nation and for our leaders."

I was thinking ....
The only way that a person could kill another would be that if he thought his God was superior to the victim's God.

As a Canadian, I only need to remember the Somalia Affair, so I'm not saying Canadian soldiers are more "honest" than other countries armed forces.
http://archives.cbc.ca/300c.asp?id=1-71-723

Calm

 

[Paranoid Dot Calm]

When I first read this article, I immediately thought of Lt. Gen. William Boykin, an evangelical Christian, who said his God was superior to that of the Muslims.

He said in one speech of a Somali warlord that "I knew that my god was bigger than his. I knew that my god was a real god and his was an idol"; he described the war on terrorism as a "spiritual battle," noting that "Satan wants to destroy this nation, he wants to destroy us as a nation, and he wants to destroy us as a Christian army"; and he famously described a dark section of a photograph of the Somali capital as the "evil" that is the real enemy. "It is not Osama bin Laden, it is the principalities of darkness. It is a spiritual enemy that will only be defeated if we come against them in the name of Jesus and pray for this nation and for our leaders."

I was thinking ....
The only way that a person could kill another would be that if he thought his God was superior to the victim's God.

As a Canadian, I only need to remember the Somalia Affair, so I'm not saying Canadian soldiers are more "honest" than other countries armed forces.
http://archives.cbc.ca/300c.asp?id=1-71-723

Calm

 

[Paranoid Dot Calm]

When I first read this article, I immediately thought of Lt. Gen. William Boykin, an evangelical Christian, who said his God was superior to that of the Muslims.

He said in one speech of a Somali warlord that "I knew that my god was bigger than his. I knew that my god was a real god and his was an idol"; he described the war on terrorism as a "spiritual battle," noting that "Satan wants to destroy this nation, he wants to destroy us as a nation, and he wants to destroy us as a Christian army"; and he famously described a dark section of a photograph of the Somali capital as the "evil" that is the real enemy. "It is not Osama bin Laden, it is the principalities of darkness. It is a spiritual enemy that will only be defeated if we come against them in the name of Jesus and pray for this nation and for our leaders."

I was thinking ....
The only way that a person could kill another would be that if he thought his God was superior to the victim's God.

As a Canadian, I only need to remember the Somalia Affair, so I'm not saying Canadian soldiers are more "honest" than other countries armed forces.
http://archives.cbc.ca/300c.asp?id=1-71-723

Calm

 

[ElPolaco]

During my time in Vietnam, I spoke to large number of combat troops, of which I was not since I was in a signal outfit. During that time, most of these guys were conscripts who were more into a survival mode than anything else. The enemy was certainly dehumanized and much of this was racial. Since most hated the army and the government, this was done out of a loyalty to one's "buddies". There were a lot of American and Confederate flags flying from APCs, but it was rare when I ran into someone who justified what in was doing within any nationalistic context. When I was out of the army, I was in Vietnam Vets Against the War for a while and I noticed there was no right wing Viet vets group at the time. However, years later, as the nation continued its rightward shifting of the bell curve, right wing viet vet groups are all over the place and just about every viet vet I see on TV defines what he did in a total nationalistic frame work. Anyway, to get back to the topic, I few guys I spoke to over there were definite "enjoy it" types. They would brag about atrocities both on the field and in interregation rooms. And, there were guys, as in my signal outfit, who would go to the village and take pictures of VC heads on display and send them home.

 

[ElPolaco]

During my time in Vietnam, I spoke to large number of combat troops, of which I was not since I was in a signal outfit. During that time, most of these guys were conscripts who were more into a survival mode than anything else. The enemy was certainly dehumanized and much of this was racial. Since most hated the army and the government, this was done out of a loyalty to one's "buddies". There were a lot of American and Confederate flags flying from APCs, but it was rare when I ran into someone who justified what in was doing within any nationalistic context. When I was out of the army, I was in Vietnam Vets Against the War for a while and I noticed there was no right wing Viet vets group at the time. However, years later, as the nation continued its rightward shifting of the bell curve, right wing viet vet groups are all over the place and just about every viet vet I see on TV defines what he did in a total nationalistic frame work. Anyway, to get back to the topic, I few guys I spoke to over there were definite "enjoy it" types. They would brag about atrocities both on the field and in interregation rooms. And, there were guys, as in my signal outfit, who would go to the village and take pictures of VC heads on display and send them home.

 

[ElPolaco]

During my time in Vietnam, I spoke to large number of combat troops, of which I was not since I was in a signal outfit. During that time, most of these guys were conscripts who were more into a survival mode than anything else. The enemy was certainly dehumanized and much of this was racial. Since most hated the army and the government, this was done out of a loyalty to one's "buddies". There were a lot of American and Confederate flags flying from APCs, but it was rare when I ran into someone who justified what in was doing within any nationalistic context. When I was out of the army, I was in Vietnam Vets Against the War for a while and I noticed there was no right wing Viet vets group at the time. However, years later, as the nation continued its rightward shifting of the bell curve, right wing viet vet groups are all over the place and just about every viet vet I see on TV defines what he did in a total nationalistic frame work. Anyway, to get back to the topic, I few guys I spoke to over there were definite "enjoy it" types. They would brag about atrocities both on the field and in interregation rooms. And, there were guys, as in my signal outfit, who would go to the village and take pictures of VC heads on display and send them home.