IRAQI POW ABUSE - Documents

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moghrabi

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A document released for the first time today by the American Civil Liberties Union suggests that President Bush issued an Executive Order authorizing the use of inhumane interrogation methods against detainees in Iraq (link in PDF format - Actual paper)

http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/FBI.121504.4940_4941.pdf

Also released by the ACLU today are a slew of other records including a December 2003 FBI e-mail that characterizes methods used by the Defense Department as "torture" and a June 2004 "Urgent Report" to the Director of the FBI that raises concerns that abuse of detainees is being covered up.

http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=17216&c=206

"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted." -- 8th Amendment to the US Constitution.

President Bush has acted illegally in signing an order authorizing the use of torture
 
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Reverend Blair

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RE: IRAQI POW ABUSE - Doc

What would really surprise me would be if Bush acted legally for a change.

This administration has no respect for laws, international or domestic, but they are always the first to complain when somebody else is perceived to breaking the laws.
 
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Pictures of dead Iraqis, with their necks slashed, their eyes gouged out and their genitals blackened, fill a bookshelf. Jail cells, with dried blood on the floor and rusted shackles bolted to the walls, line the corridors.

"I was beaten, refrigerated naked and put underground for one year because I was a Shiite and Saddam is a Sunni," said Ali Kaddam Kardom, 37

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-04-13-saddam-secrets-usat_x.htm

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Uday has athletes "beaten with iron bars. Caned on the soles of their feet. Chained to walls and left to stay in contorted positions for days. Dragged on pavement until their backs are bloody, then dunked in sewage to ensure the wounds become infected. If Uday stops by a player's jail cell, he might urinate on his bowed, shaven head. Just to humiliate him." Even ping-pong players were subject to torture for poor performances.

"Uday jumped out of his chair and started punching him in the face," Yahia said. "Uday told him, 'This is how you box!' Then he took his iron bar (with the electric shocker) and started torturing him on the face and the stomach, saying to him, 'This is how you do it next time.' And then he shaved his head, as he usually does with athletes, and put him down in prison" on the first floor of the Olympic committee headquarters.

http://espn.go.com/oly/bloodontherings.html
 
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LadyC

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And? We're pretty much all agreed that Saddam was a very bad man. That's not what this thread is about.

I believe we're discussing whether Bush is much better.
 
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peapod

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Like two wrongs make a right anyway. So sadam is a monster, that justifies abusing and torture of others.
That getting rid of sadam the monster makes me sick, how stupid do you think people are. How come he was not bad enough in the first gulf war to go in and get? They were right there, how many people died that tried to raise up againist sadam, which is what the american government wanted...they said??? they left those people behind to be murdered and tortured. How come he was not bad enough when he gased kurds. And now you expect us to buy the reasons you present, well sorry the disquise is not working....we can see the money.
 
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