interesting alberta politics

timson

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If Ottawa is corrupt, take a look at Edmonton.

- The Alberta legislature met for 11 days this fall - 11 days for legislation to be debated, cabinet ministers to be embarrassed in Question Period, and reports from the Ombusdman and the Auditor General to be presented. The rest of the time, government is by cabinet only. In Ottawa, the magic number was about 60 sitting days.

- In Ottawa, the government gets embarrassed regularly by reports of the Auditor General, who is empowered to investigate any government matter. In Alberta, the AG is a hack with limited investigative powers. When the AG decided to investigate the Alberta Securities Commission, for example, the ASC directors sued to keep him out - and did!

- In Ottawa, legislation and government operations are examined by standing committees made up of MP's from all parties. Committees are populated on a proportional basis, so the governing party has a majority of the seats, but any member has the opportunity to ask questions, and to complain publicly if answers are not forthcoming. Some committeee sessions are public. In Alberta, the committees are made up only of government MLA's, no-one says diddly, to maintain caucus solidarity, and no sessions are public.

- Albertans complain about the fact that their taxes go to Ottawa and never come back. In Calgary, 60% of my property tax is "school tax", collected by Edmonton, and half of it never comes back. Instead, while there are not enough schools for Calgary, new schools are popping up all over Podunk.

- The Ward 10 scandal, where a city council election was initially hijacked through mail-in ballots, was the work of Hung Pham, a Conservative MLA who Ralph has yet to fire, and candidate Margot Aftergood, a former executive of Pham's PC constituency association (and also a returning officer in Pham's next election).

And the stink of neo-cons continues.
 

Finder

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Well I've said it many times. Alberta scares me, and I know many other Canadians too. My Ex-Girl friend who lives Edmonton usta tell me horror stories of Alberta. I went there thinking it couldn't be that bad and it was worse.

I doubt things will change there too. Well at least for another generation.

One of the problems with the City council elections almost anywhere in Canada is the City council doesn't really have a mandate from outside of the provincial government. As the act of a city council is an act of the provincial government. They have to reform this in our constitution so cities have certain rights and rights to responcible government.

to tell you the truth I don't know anything outside of what you just wrote about Hung Pham or the scandal in your ward 10. But it sounds pretty underhanded.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: interesting alberta p

The Klein government is corrupt. There's little doubt about it. One only has to look at the deal Klein signed with the oil companies to realise how corrupt. Conservative Albertans like to brag about those $400 cheques they received, but if Klein would have gotten the deal he could have, the cheques would be for $4,000 and education and health care would be fully paid for by the provincial government.

What makes me laugh is that they're always yarking about the democratic deficit federally, yet they have done nothing to address the democratic deficit within their own province.
 

the caracal kid

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well put rev.

alberta is frightening. ralphie is an oil whore who answers only to his oil company masters. Yet, so long as the oil money flows, albertans seem to be easily bought off and willing to line up for whatever ralphie has to offer. "bread and circuses", and just like rome.....
 

MMMike

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As long as the oil wealth keeps flowing and the economy booming, the people of Alberta will be loathe to vote out the Conservatives. Too bad, because any party in power too long will become corrupt and increasingly inept.
 

Semperfi_dani

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RE: interesting alberta p

I always laugh when ralph gets on the bandwagon about Ottawa corruption. That's like the pot calling the kettle black.

But can i ask that you refrain from using the word Edmonton? It's not the city of Edmonton doing this to you. It's the government of Alberta...which happens to sit in Edmonton. We are getting even worse than Calgary when it comes to money distribution. Edmonton gets on average between 10 and 20% less than Calgary when it comes to money spent on infrastructure, schools, health care spending and so on and so forth.
 

Roy

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MMMike said:
As long as the oil wealth keeps flowing and the economy booming, the people of Alberta will be loathe to vote out the Conservatives. Too bad, because any party in power too long will become corrupt and increasingly inept.

yup, any party in power to long will eventualy come across some kind of scandal and corruption. I am looking forward to see Alberta's next premier after Klein leaves, anyone know who some possibilities are for the PC's?
 

Finder

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Roy said:
MMMike said:
As long as the oil wealth keeps flowing and the economy booming, the people of Alberta will be loathe to vote out the Conservatives. Too bad, because any party in power too long will become corrupt and increasingly inept.

yup, any party in power to long will eventualy come across some kind of scandal and corruption. I am looking forward to see Alberta's next premier after Klein leaves, anyone know who some possibilities are for the PC's?


Hmm something I agree with you on too. Any party who has stayed in power too long becomes corrupted. One of the best things with a democratic system is we can shack things up a little to keep these parties in line.
 

cyberclark

Electoral Member
When I posted the actual oil revenues on Ralph's world, Ralph was out of the gate with the 400 dollar offer immediately! Alberta collects the lowest royality in the world; bar none!
There is some important information on the site which will effect all Canadians. It's a sewer believe me!

Ralph is waiting for the Federal Election before putting the final nail in his Third Way health care. That means Liberal and Conservative had both promised to open the Canada Health Act if elected to allow changes for private health care.

As you candidate about this and push aside their recording of guarding the eight pillars of health care!

http://ralphsworld.blogspot.com/
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http://ralphsworld.blogspot.com/SubjectArchives.htm