How the GW myth is perpetuated

Ron in Regina

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The Canadian parliament has yet to meet after the most consequential election since 1945, nor has Mr. Trudeau even held a meeting with his own caucus. All this is as it should be. Naturally, big international gatherings like the G20, and especially so sublime a gathering as the world’s environmentalist Sanhedrin in Glasgow, trumps governing in grey Ottawa, opening Parliament, raising the flag, or attending to the non-entities of his compliant backbench.


And remember the Minister from Greenpeace Steven Guilbeault is there too. It is not clear if he intends to shimmy up his hotel and hoist “anti-Fort Mac” banners, but we may hope. As is to be expected that this “last” last chance to save the world will have Mr. Trudeau and the former Greenpeace ninja, assuring the faithful that they are firm and determined that the last traces of the oil and gas industry, every thought of pipelines, exploration of new fields, will be “transitioned,” meaning “obliterated” with the greatest speed and urgency.

Aren’t we, Globally, in theory anyway, supposedly just crawling out from under the rock of a pandemic with economies firing up and starving for power? Rolling outages across Asia and specifically China? Supply shortages? Fears of freezing in Europe this winter? Monstrous debts (at least for Canada) incurred waiting for Covid 19 to run its coarse?

This is the PERFECT time to further hamstring our economy!! Right? Why not? All the cool kids with their shiny socks are doing it….
 

Ron in Regina

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Recent months have seen a massive spike in the price of gas, housing, beef and telecommunications, among others. Not wanting to be left out, Canada’s dairy farmers recently called for milk prices to rise an incredible 8.4 per cent. Wait, isn’t it illegal for an industry to collude on the price of a commodity? Didn’t Loblaws get into trouble for doing that exact thing with bread? Yes, it is illegal – for every other agricultural sector in Canada except the one that produces dairy.


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau kicked off his appearance at the COP26 UN climate conference by repeating his election promise that Canada would “cap” emissions from its oil and gas industry. It’s not quite a promise to cap production, as Trudeau is only counting the emissions required to produce oil and gas (ie: the natural gas burned to power an oil sands operation in Athasbasca), and not the much higher emissions that result when that oil and gas is eventually burned. So, if Alberta just ran all its oilfields on nuclear power or something, we’d be in the clear.

Trudeau said that Canada’s voluntary emissions cap would be an inspiration to the world’s other oil and gas producers?

Meanwhile, U.S. President Joe Biden told those exact same oil producers over the weekend to start emitting more. More specifically, he urged the likes of Saudi Arabia and Russia to produce more oil and ultimately bring down the price of gasoline?

If there was any doubt that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will pursue his climate goals at the expense of the Canadian economy, it was put to rest by his remarks at the COP26 conference in Glasgow on Monday, when he used the international forum to openly declare war on Alberta’s oil and gas industry.


Despite being upfront about their intention to make the energy industry do all the heavy lifting to achieve Canada’s climate commitments — after all, GHG emissions from the transportation sector are roughly equal to the energy industry, but Trudeau has no plans to limit the number of planes in the sky or trucks on the road — it is nevertheless shocking that the Liberals would look to hamper an industry that, in 2019, accounted for 10 per cent of Canadian gross domestic product and supported over 832,500 direct and indirect jobs.
 

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Recent months have seen a massive spike in the price of gas, housing, beef and telecommunications, among others. Not wanting to be left out, Canada’s dairy farmers recently called for milk prices to rise an incredible 8.4 per cent. Wait, isn’t it illegal for an industry to collude on the price of a commodity? Didn’t Loblaws get into trouble for doing that exact thing with bread? Yes, it is illegal – for every other agricultural sector in Canada except the one that produces dairy.


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau kicked off his appearance at the COP26 UN climate conference by repeating his election promise that Canada would “cap” emissions from its oil and gas industry. It’s not quite a promise to cap production, as Trudeau is only counting the emissions required to produce oil and gas (ie: the natural gas burned to power an oil sands operation in Athasbasca), and not the much higher emissions that result when that oil and gas is eventually burned. So, if Alberta just ran all its oilfields on nuclear power or something, we’d be in the clear.

Trudeau said that Canada’s voluntary emissions cap would be an inspiration to the world’s other oil and gas producers?

Meanwhile, U.S. President Joe Biden told those exact same oil producers over the weekend to start emitting more. More specifically, he urged the likes of Saudi Arabia and Russia to produce more oil and ultimately bring down the price of gasoline?

If there was any doubt that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will pursue his climate goals at the expense of the Canadian economy, it was put to rest by his remarks at the COP26 conference in Glasgow on Monday, when he used the international forum to openly declare war on Alberta’s oil and gas industry.


Despite being upfront about their intention to make the energy industry do all the heavy lifting to achieve Canada’s climate commitments — after all, GHG emissions from the transportation sector are roughly equal to the energy industry, but Trudeau has no plans to limit the number of planes in the sky or trucks on the road — it is nevertheless shocking that the Liberals would look to hamper an industry that, in 2019, accounted for 10 per cent of Canadian gross domestic product and supported over 832,500 direct and indirect jobs.
Well he wants to import 500,000 truck and taxi drivers annually what would you expect ?
 

Dixie Cup

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The data you told me to look at confirms what I have been saying.

Sea levels have been rising and have recently accelerated.

I'd ask you for the why but you wont answer so I think we are done here.

Anyone else?
Actually, that is false. The seas are not rising nor have they been. It's misinformation as usual by the extremists who insist the world is going to end soon. It's disgusting!
 
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Dixie Cup

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Any so-called "flooding" has been the result of hurricanes due to the fact that some cities are below sea level (aka N. Orleans).

The flooding in Europe was caused by excessive rain and rivers over flowing not "sea level" rising. There is no ocean in N. Germany as far as I know where they had major flooding and they still have no heat or telephone service.

The extremists use weather issues as proof of so-called global warming and it's all lies!! It's their way of stripping countries from any wealth and ensuring that all of us are poorer, people already considered poor will remain poor and the elite - well they'll just do fine - they'll do all the traveling that we won't be able to afford to do and they will be the beneficiaries of the resulting lucre.
 

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Cop26 is a gigantic flatulent mess of incoherence and sanctimony: Ex-No10 Special Adviser STEVE HILTON claims our entire establishment has been possessed by an almost spiritual climate cult

Ex-No10 guru claims Downing Street has been possessed by climate cult

The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change,' claimed America's most prominent young Left-wing politician, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, in January 2019. Now, according to her reckoning, we have barely ten years left. Protesters took to the streets of London, right, in London yesterday after Saint Greta Thunberg herself pronounced the summit a flop. She said: 'It is not a secret that COP26 is a failure,' accusing participants of 'greenwashing' and adding that the whole thing 'has turned into a PR event'. Never have I agreed with her more.
 
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Ron in Regina

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….& then we where distracted from the Climate Change Debate by a real crisis being the Global Pandemic that we called COVID 19…which has come & gone in waves for the last year or more….& that brings us to the current time.


Ah, the Glasgow Times. My second favourite newspaper (the ultimate must remain unnamed). Getting close to the hive gathering known as COP26, the Glasgow Times passed on glad tidings that the 30,000 attending from all over God’s plague-pocked world (the number has jumped from 25,000) “will not need to use the Scottish government’s vaccine passport system to enter the conference.”

“And why should they?” the whole woke world, maybe even Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland (see below), responds in chorus. The Scottish government is very like the Canadian government(s) in these moments of high choice and fraught decisions. It will lock down the corner store, demand passports to go to the coffee shop, bring ruin to local restaurants, but wave a welcome hand and drop all the rules for 30,000 strangers coming to town.

Does anyone think it is going to impose health mandates and vaccine passports on a multitude of people from almost every single country of the world when they jam themselves into Glasgow to exchange invocations against the sky god of global warming? And find all sorts of specious rationalizations when they do so. When they join in their thousands to mingle, meet, hug and celebrate under the immunity-granting, virus-defying, to-hell-with-social-distancing prophylactic of the global warming minstrelsy?

Anyway, more at the link above….
It’s been a while since we have heard any “climate emergency” declarations. In case you’ve forgotten, they were all the rage before COVID hit. Now we are hearing about a different emergency, namely soaring fuel prices, in response to which governments are demanding the fossil fuel sector do what they spent the last 20 years ordering it not to do: increase capacity and output.

Many other observers have discussed, vented, ranted and raved about the inane contradictions of policymakers who have made it effectively impossible for the private sector to keep up with consumer demands for fossil fuel products, and who are now blaming the private sector for the inevitable price hikes. As we contemplate the inconsistent views of policy makers it is helpful to trace them to the inconsistent views of the people who presumed to advise them.

Rhetoric about climate change being an “existential threat,” a “crisis,” an “emergency” and even an “extinction-level event” has come, not just from overheated activists, but also from corporate leaders, bankers, bureaucrats, politicians, United Nations officials and more than a few scientists.

Missing from that list? Economists.

…In the years before COVID, however, this view was effectively squelched as decidedly non-mainstream activists and agitators took over the public discussion and convinced naïve politicians and ill-informed corporate leaders to declare climate emergencies and block the development of energy infrastructure. These no doubt well-intentioned decision-makers were told they would be acting in the name of science, though not that the science in question was junk. But junk science has led to junk policies, which are now doing much harm to many people.

The way out of this mess begins by getting back to mainstream economics, mainstream science and the more than occasional exercise of common sense.
 

Dixie Cup

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It’s been a while since we have heard any “climate emergency” declarations. In case you’ve forgotten, they were all the rage before COVID hit. Now we are hearing about a different emergency, namely soaring fuel prices, in response to which governments are demanding the fossil fuel sector do what they spent the last 20 years ordering it not to do: increase capacity and output.

Many other observers have discussed, vented, ranted and raved about the inane contradictions of policymakers who have made it effectively impossible for the private sector to keep up with consumer demands for fossil fuel products, and who are now blaming the private sector for the inevitable price hikes. As we contemplate the inconsistent views of policy makers it is helpful to trace them to the inconsistent views of the people who presumed to advise them.

Rhetoric about climate change being an “existential threat,” a “crisis,” an “emergency” and even an “extinction-level event” has come, not just from overheated activists, but also from corporate leaders, bankers, bureaucrats, politicians, United Nations officials and more than a few scientists.

Missing from that list? Economists.

…In the years before COVID, however, this view was effectively squelched as decidedly non-mainstream activists and agitators took over the public discussion and convinced naïve politicians and ill-informed corporate leaders to declare climate emergencies and block the development of energy infrastructure. These no doubt well-intentioned decision-makers were told they would be acting in the name of science, though not that the science in question was junk. But junk science has led to junk policies, which are now doing much harm to many people.

The way out of this mess begins by getting back to mainstream economics, mainstream science and the more than occasional exercise of common sense.
Good advice!!
 

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Trending, fad, conforming, belief, pseudo-science, propaganda, disinformation, play on emotion, brainwashing....

When do we get BBQed? I've been waiting 30+ years for an iota of real change.

Yup, I admit the 90s were warm but not record shattering.

Where did the warming go?

Right now in 2022, it hasn't been such a cold year in the northern hemisphere since 1958.

195fucking8.

As an "Earth Scientist"... I have no choice but call bullshit. The intregity of data analysis has zero merit. The association of geo scientists in my and hundreds of other Stare/Provincial Earth Scientists governing bodies aren't endorsing Climate Change.

Google is your friend, research, research and research, crunch the math, use YOUR brain, ask questions, find YOUR truth. It's there if you're smart enough. Are you smart enough?

In our world, a second is thousands of years. A minute is a million years.

Check the data. It's says "no fucking way".

The indoctrination pitched has zero to do with the environment.

None of this bullshit would never ever be pushed on you if the wasn't Trillions in profits.

Evil Corporation would never endorse this shit without profit.

Use your common sense for fuck sakes.
 
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