How should we punish child molestation and rape?
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Deterrence doesn't just lie in punishment but in motivation to re-offend too. Castration reduces sex drive which in turn reduces the motive to re-offend independently of the risk of getting caught.
Probably very few, mainly because it's damn difficult to prove beyond reasonable doubt. For example, a parent can coach a child to make molestation claims against the other parent and a person can make a false rape accusation to cover infidelity.
However difficult it is to prove though, some are convicted on the rare occasion that it's proved beyond reasonable doubt and we want to be sure that they won't re-offend.
As for prevention, I could think of a few solutions. For example, make people aware of the availability of therapy and 12 step groups for potential pedophiles and rapists or any addict for that matter. Make people aware of parental control apps. For example, whether a person uses the internet to lure children, rape prostitutes, gamble money on online poker, or engage in whatever other addictive behaviour, make sure the general public is aware of the existence of screen blocking apps and and filtered internet browsers, etc. Some addicts, whether online gaming or gambling addicts, internet addicts, porn addicts, or even pedophiles and rapists might not even be able to imagine that such apps exist. They can't make use of them if they don't know of their existence.
Make potential rapists aware of other options too. For example, even if a potential rapist hasn't raped anyone yet but fears that he might, make him aware that chemical castration is not permanent and can be reversed by removing the implant. Or if a person is a pedophile who's not hurt anyone yet, why not make him aware that he can access chemical castration for free without any criminal conviction just on request. Just some ideas.
For a first or a second offence?
Hmmmm....interesting. I know women that have had complete hysterectomies, this includes removal of ovaries and sex drive remained or increased. Medical science says it "can" result in a decrease, not it will.
http://www.slate.com/technology/201...he-city-when-talking-about-cynthia-nixon.html
You mean like David Milgard?
All good points. We definitely need to protect the falsely accused and even with castration, we would still need the recommendation of a psychiatrist.
ROFLMFAO.... in other words, you didn't research your proposal at all. Just off the cuff bullshyte, as usual.
No. There is still proof that castration greatly reduces the rate of recidivism. As I mentioned earlier, it reduces it to around 2 to 3% compared to above 40% without castration. I never said it guaranteed no possibility of raping, but just that it helped tremendously.
and you can guarantee that no one that will be put through this procedure will have been falsely convicted. Remember, a criminal conviction is based on beyond a reasonable doubt.
plus, the article I linked to shows upto 10%, not just 2-3%
Yes, beyond reasonable doubt does not mean beyond all doubt, granted. I never proposed forced castration but rather just as a precondition for release. In other words, if the convict is innocent, he has the option of appealing the verdict and refusing castration.
As for the 2-3%, I heard that on a video about Russia. I'm sure statistics can vary and maybe 10% is more accurate for Canada, so let's go with that. Still an improvement. Again, it should never replace therapy and a psychiatric assessment. No system is perfect but evidence shows that castration helps. Again, I'm not proposing forced castration but merely as an alternative to life in prison for those who want it.
You have proposed death, life, or castration.
I imagine you will be jumping for joy the first time an 18 yr old get's nailed for banging a 14 yr old. Would castration be your preferred method of dealing with him, or are you more of a hang em high kinda guy?
As much as it pains me to admit, but the little shyte is right. It has been proven that the death penalty does not deter those that commit murder. Those that commit these kinds of crimes do not think about the "consequences" as they don't "think" that they will be caught to face those consequences.
I'm a kind and generous guy. I was proposing giving the convict the choice between death, life, and surgical castration followed by at least a year of institutionalized therapy until at least two psychiatrists recommend release. In theory, that last option still does not guarantee release anytime in the person's life even after castration since he would still need the recommendation of at least two psychiatrists in addition to the surgical castration followed by at least a year of institutionalized therapy.
I believe in choice!
