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What friggin' country are we in? Heard on the news that a man in Manitoba is charged with child molesting,charged not convicted,the atourny general wants to take his house,because a related crime "might" have been commited there,now this is the best part,even if he is not guilty they can still take his house unless he can prove no crime was commited there.
How ********* up is that ??!!
 
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Several provinces have legislation that says that if the authorities deem that the property is the proceeds of crime, they can seize it. Note that they don't have to prove that it is proceeds of crime.
 
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Now, this comment shown below is a discussion of the New Brunswick law, but it's similar to others in other provinces. Note, and this is the important thing, that property can be seized even if nobody has been charged (much less convicted) of a criminal offense.

While some here may see this as nitpicking, what it boils down to is that the government (ie, the police and the courts) can decide that your property has been used for criminal activity, and seize it, without having to have a criminal trial. It's a slippery slope when there is no need for any criminal trial for this sort of action. Sure, we can all say, 'but they'd never do that', but on the other hand, we all think the police won't kick a guy in the face, or kill him because he yelled and waved a stapler.

FREDERICTON (CNB) - A new act introduced in the legislative assembly today will give the attorney general the power to apply to seize property acquired or used in unlawful activity even if no person has been charged with a crime.
The Civil Forfeiture Act will apply to land and personal property, including cash, and can be applied to unlawful activity up to 10 years prior to it coming into force. The unlawful activity can relate to the Criminal Code, federal drug legislation or provincial law.
The act will provide certain protections to innocent persons with interests in the property being forfeited, including lenders, mortgage holders and other interest holders.
Attorney General Kelly Lamrock said this legislation will give the legal system an additional tool to combat illegal activities in New Brunswick.
"There has been a growing concern that in some cases, there can be a piece of property that is clearly being used for illegal activity but the letter of the law makes it difficult to charge individuals," Lamrock said. "The classic example is a drug house in a neighbourhood where there can be many occupants, many of whom may not have been charged, but the home is a safe haven for drug activity nonetheless. This new act will make it easier for the attorney general to seize the house itself, even after the drug operation has been shut down, sell the property and use the proceeds to fight crime."
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TenPenny said:
Now, this comment shown below is a discussion of the New Brunswick law, but it's similar to others in other provinces. Note, and this is the important thing, that property can be seized even if nobody has been charged (much less convicted) of a criminal offense.

While some here may see this as nitpicking, what it boils down to is that the government (ie, the police and the courts) can decide that your property has been used for criminal activity, and seize it, without having to have a criminal trial. It's a slippery slope when there is no need for any criminal trial for this sort of action. Sure, we can all say, 'but they'd never do that', but on the other hand, we all think the police won't kick a guy in the face, or kill him because he yelled and waved a stapler.
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This reminds me somewhat of Local News Fear mongering.

Tune in at 11 and we'll tell you how local government is going to SHUT DOWN RELIGION

or

1000 Pedophiles coming to a neighborhood near you.

If you own a property that is (as an example) being used as a crack-house and you aren't doing anything proactive to prevent it, then I think you are somewhat liable. Now if you live in Europe half the year that might be a different kettle of fish.

By the way, the police didn't kick a guys face in. A cop allegedly kicked a guys face in.

Just sayin.
 
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