Harper fights emissions reductions

Karlin

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Thursday, February 08, 2007

PM Harper:
"I think realistically the only way you can get absolute reductions is through the application of new technology over time."

"I don't think realistically we can tell Canadians, 'Stop driving your car, stop going to work, stop heating your house in the winter.'"


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/02/02/harper-climate.html


In the first line above, PM HArper is encouraging his supporters by saying that 'finding ways to burn fossil fuels cleaner will allow continued use of fossil fuels as our main energy source'.

If emissions continue to rise, there could be a backlash against using fossil fuels, so this measure will actually help the oil and coal interests in the long run.

In the 2nd line in the quotes above, he is using fear tactic to stop the line of thinking that we can avoid the worst of climate change by taking action on our emissions of greenhouse gases. The threat of 'not heating our homes in winter' is low compared to 'not driving your Hummer' or 'not using coal to produce electricity' when we look at how to avoid climate change. When we see PM Harper using the "freezing in the dark" fear tactic, we can take great comfort in knowing that he is fighting back against emission reductions with every tactic he can find, including fear of losing our energy sources.

Lets just hope nobody hears about using solar panels on roof tops which will provide power during blackouts or when the central grid fails us due to fighting climate change. That just might create the conditions for changes to a de-centralised power supply, which would only hurt Harper's supporters. [i am glad I am not one of them]

Karlin
PS hint - some sarcasm in this post
 

CDNBear

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Just more smear...

Have you anything else?

These comments...
"I think realistically the only way you can get absolute reductions is through the application of new technology over time."

"I don't think realistically we can tell Canadians, 'Stop driving your car, stop going to work, stop heating your house in the winter."

Though removed from context, undoubtedly for hysterical left elitist propoganda effect. Seem reasonable and quite frankly realistic, but hey, not everyone would crush the economy for green votes like the Liberals...

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/c...lland-drops-environmental-bombshell-west.html
 

Karlin

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Well, global warming will crush the economy... either way it will be crushed unless we address the fossil fuel emissions, which will not happen until we get the Elites-built-on-oil out of power, which is really the primary goal of 'socialists' at this point.
 

crit13

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Well, global warming will crush the economy... either way it will be crushed unless we address the fossil fuel emissions, which will not happen until we get the Elites-built-on-oil out of power, which is really the primary goal of 'socialists' at this point.

Global warming is a sham. The earth's temperature has gone up less than 1 degree in a 100 years yet the socialist Red Star had a front page photo of Toronto practically spontaneously combusting in 40 years.

Talk about sensationalism.
 

s243a

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Come on if we really want to see drastic reductions in greenhouse gas emissions we have to stop driving. Atleast we have to stop driving in areas where there is adequate transit coverage. Singapore restricts the number of people that are allowed to drive to control traffic. In Canada we could restrict people from driving in the city center areas unless they have a special license or a day pass. You don’t stop global CO2 emissions by living like Al Gore yet driving a hybrid. You don’t stop CO2 emissions by giving money to a country which is 5 times less efficient in terms of GDP per CO2 emissions. You stop it by making real personal sacrifices. No indulgences. No Carbon credits. Either we are prepared to make the change or we are not. I am tired of left wing fear mongers who have both feet planted firmly in the air.
 

s243a

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Well, global warming will crush the economy... either way it will be crushed unless we address the fossil fuel emissions, which will not happen until we get the Elites-built-on-oil out of power, which is really the primary goal of 'socialists' at this point.

History has shown that humans have done better in warmer times then colder times.
 

crit13

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Come on if we really want to see drastic reductions in greenhouse gas emissions we have to stop driving. Atleast we have to stop driving in areas where there is adequate transit coverage. Singapore restricts the number of people that are allowed to drive to control traffic. In Canada we could restrict people from driving in the city center areas unless they have a special license or a day pass. You don’t stop global CO2 emissions by living like Al Gore yet driving a hybrid. You don’t stop CO2 emissions by giving money to a country which is 5 times less efficient in terms of GDP per CO2 emissions. You stop it by making real personal sacrifices. No indulgences. No Carbon credits. Either we are prepared to make the change or we are not. I am tired of left wing fear mongers who have both feet planted firmly in the air.

Well said. I'll second that.

History has shown that humans have done better in warmer times then colder times.

But who are we to bring "common sense" to a "science fiction" debate?