Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Tecumsehsbones

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I'm still trying to figure that out Comicon and dressing up in leotards.
Why would anyone build a miniture rail system in their basement?
Why would amateur rocketry exist?
It's probably a little crazy to spend a buck and a half a shot to punch holes in pieces of paper.

Fortunately, it's my money and I feel remarkably free of any need to justify it.
 

spilledthebeer

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And as the 2040 date draws near - the political party that WANTS TO GET ELECTED WILL ADMIT that law is for MORONS!


AND SCRAP IT! This assumes there is anybody LEFT IN CANADA who has the money to buy any sort of vehicle!


Once the costs and debts and inflation from the CHINESE Wuhan Pestilence is all counted up!



HemerHOID demonstrates yet again that HE DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE how the world works!










In the latest news - British LIE-berals who recently passed a law banning gasoline driven vehicles - including motorcycles



that is supposed to take effect in the year 2050 ARE ALREADY TAKING FLACK from British motorcycle owners


WHO DO NOT want to surrender their gas driven rides and be forced either to WALK or buy an electric TOY vehicle



with all the FALSE ECONOMIES that come with those costly and short lived electric TOYS!


Brit motorcycle riders are pushing powerful arguments related to the efficiency of their machines


COMPARED TO THE NOT SO GREEN electricity that would be needed to power a bunch of electric TOYS!


LIE-berals on MULTIPLE CONTINENTS are fudging the numbers related to the TRUE COST to operate a bunch of those COSTLY


electric TOYS with their POISONOUS Lithium batteries along with the mass of natural gas fueled generators that will be required to



produce all the needed recharging capacity!


Wind and solar power are SO UNRELIABLE that all green electricity suppliers have found it necessary to also build and fully power



up an equal amount of natural gas fueled generators to compensate swiftly when sun goes behind a cloud



or the wind gusts stop blowing!



As we know - most electric TOYS get charged OVER NIGHT - when solar power is at a rather LOW EBB!



And of course our atmosphere is MUCH CALMER at night so wind power wont cut it for charging electric TOYS after dark!


The closer we get to 2050, the MORE PRESSURE there wil be to SCRAP stupid counter productive LIE-beral policies!
 

spilledthebeer

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I never said i wanted to shoot anyone. I just want to be able to duck hunt. Any provide security for my family when front line workers arent available which you seem to think never happens.




Nut Zone Doug wants to create a world where govt is so OMNIPOTENT that you will NEVER NEED PROTECTION


ever again because NOBODY in their right mind would ever DISOBEY ANY LAW!



There is a reason Nut Zone Doug speaks so strongly in support of the Beijing Butchers!


Nut Zone Doug WANTS the 1984 style world where you dont watch tv - instead the TV WATCHES YOU!




Here is an article illustrating how LIE-berals intend to avoid any responsibility or accountability in the wake of the Nova Scotia shootings! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Canada’s proposed ‘red flag laws’ could include family members, victims: minister

By David Lao, from Global News. Published May 3, 2020

(Yes - those `red flag laws` are designed to alert authorities to persons with dangerous mental health isuses - its too bad that LIE-berals NEVER REACT whenever they get such a warning!)

(And now LIE-berals are making noises about expanding the number of people who may report such mental health problems - WITHOUT bothering to alter the way LIE-berals RESPOND to such warnings! Whenever a LIE-beral uses the word “could” to describe some possible policy change - it MEANS IT WONT HAPPEN and LIE-berals are just idly talking till we move on and forget!)

In the wake of the horrific Nova Scotia shooting rampage that cost 22 people their lives, Canada’s public safety minister has shed some light on Ottawa’s plan to expand who can sound the alarm on someone believed to be at risk or harming themselves or others with firearms.

In an interview with The West Block's Mercedes Stephenson, Public Safety Minister Bill Blair said that he wanted to make sure the country's "red flag laws" -- legislation allowing health-care providers to breach patient-doctor confidentiality to report a potentially dangerous individual -- would include family members, victims and other community members.

(Maybe we should ask why family members - who would KNOW THE LUNATIC BEST and thus be able to judge the potential threat - might not have been heeded in the past? Should we assume it is because LIE-berals DO NOT want to bother wasting THEIR GRAVY on treatment for LOONS?)

(We have only to look at Richard Kashkar who repeatedly sought aid for the voices in his head - until one night he gave in to the voices and walked away from his VOLUNTARY hospital stay and stole a snow plow and went on a rampage that left a cop dead! People like Kashkar REQUIRE SUPERVISED treatment - otherwise they neglect their medication and too often people then die or are badly injured in the ensuing rampage!)

Canada already has a hotline for reporting dangerous persons as part of the Canadian Firearms Program, as well as Anastasia's Law in Quebec which is specific to that province.

(Too bad that LIE-berals have set up a health care system that RELIES ON VOLUNTARY cooperation! With too many schizophrenic people finding their medication to be costly and unpleasant to take regularly - due to side effects - with the rest that such people FREQUENTLY RELAPSE into mental illness - while LIE- berals shrug sadly - and leave suffering patients to be shot by cops!)

Blair listed a few situations of when and where the law -- which would exist under The Firearms Act -- could potentially be applied.

(Blair follows the LIE-beral play book - get talking about ILLEGAL GUNS rather than DEFICIENT LIE-beral mental health treatment! The Nova Scotia killer did NOT HAVE a gun permit and DID NOT HAVE any legally purchased guns! The guy got his weapons from the black market smugglers who bring guns in from United States across our UNGUARDED BORDERS while LIE-berals SHRUG!)

(LIE-berals are trying to distract us by banning rifles in the hands of legal law abiding owners while IGNORING the flood of pistols smuggled across the borders to the hands of Cdn CRIMINALS!)

(Just as LIE-berals DO NOT want to spend gravy on treatment for lunatics- they are equally opposed to making special efforts to stop smuggling since such action would require a MILITARY FORCE to compel Mohawks and other ARMED native groups along the border to HALT their various smuggling operations!)

(Mohawks and other criminal gangs smuggle everything from guns and alcohol to cigarettes and illegal aliens - for fun and profit! And LIE-berals DO NOT wish to lose the voter support of such thugs!)

(Worst of all - LIE-berals are SO DESPERATE to buy native votes that they are claiming it is discriminatory to have so many natives in jail as we do! Traditionally if you did the crime and got caught then you did the time in jail! LIE-berals want to turn that on its head and ONLY JAIL white people while EXCUSING messed up native criminals! This is the BIGOTED LIE-beral re-imagining of what they call “white privilege”!)

People showing signs of intimate partner violence, spouting hate speech or advocating for violence online against a religious or ethnic minority or even in a neighbourly dispute that could turn violent, could all be potentially considered as a viable red flag scenario.

(So what - LIE-berals ROUTINELY IGNORE such threats! Toronto news media has - in the past - reported on the repeated RE-ARREST of Schizophrenic patients - who assault people and commit crimes and are arrested and sent for treatment that stabilizes their condition and thus they are released as being no longer dangerous and of course they cannot afford or do not take their medication and then they RELAPSE and get Re-ARRESTED and the cycle of treat and release continues with NO resolution!)

"Those are circumstances where it’s a dangerous situation and the presence of a firearm can make it deadly."

(Agreed that a crazy person with a gun IS dangerous! So why are LIE-berals proposing to BUY rifles from SANE legal owners while IGNORING the criminal gangs who are shooting each other on our streets with SMUGGLED PISTOLS! LIE-berals know very well that much of our criminal gang problem is an off shoot of POISONED LIE-beral immigration policy that is focussed on buying immigrant votes - and to hell with what might be nest for Canada!)

(We need only look at the Toronto Danforth shooter who was part of a Muslim immigrant family sponsored by LIE-berals and he brought into Canada his raging UNTREATED mental illness and he got hold of a SMUGGLED pistol that he used to TRAUMATIZE Toronto! Buying back legally owned rifles will NOT prevent lunatics from buying illegal smuggled pistols!)

(Even worse is the EASE with which the LOON was able to get a pistol thanks to his brother`s crime connections! The brother was a major drug dealer who ended up in a coma after sampling some of his own product that had too much Fentanyl in it!)

Blair has previously touted red flag laws as part of the Liberals' gun control strategy, which saw multiple reforms to The Firearms Act over the last year.

(And again - buying rifles will NOT prevent gangs from smuggling Fentanyl in to Canada - with most of it coming from Red China - the nation whose “basic democracy” is SO ADMIRED by Our idiot Boy Justin - the aspiring Soviet Socialist Dictator - that he is willing to support the Beijing Butchers while enraging our long time allies and neglecting Cdn national security!)

His comments come amid an announcement from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Friday to ban the ownership, sale and transport of over 1,500 models of assault-style guns across Canada in the aftermath of the Nova Scotia tragedy, the country's most deadly mass shooting ever.

The order, which comes into effect immediately, includes a two-year amnesty period for current gun owners as well as an eventual buyback program.

(Oh yes - this LIE-beral plan is going to become an election issue after the LIE-beral minority govt is defeated over its spring 2021 budget!)

According to Blair, the plan to introduce those red flag laws would come alongside other legislation to further tighten gun control in the spring.

(Oh right - such a law SHOULD REQUIRE a full meeting of Parliament to discuss the new law and to decide if tax money should be wasted in such fashion! And LIE-berals have been working hard to SHUT DOWN our Parliament for as long as possible so opposition parties cannot see or comment on LIE-beral activities that are designed to BUY SUPPORT for LIE-beral minority govt! LIE-berals will MAKE US pay any price so they can avoid a Non Confidence vote for as long as possible!)

(LIE-berals would like to AVOID having to produce a budget for spring 2021 since it would trigger a Parliamentary vote that would probably KILL the LIE-beral minority and trigger an election with results that LIE-berals FEAR!)

"We’ll bring forward legislation that will give us new tools, new authorities to stop the illegal smuggling of firearms into Canada, the illegal trafficking of firearms through diversion and straw purchase, and the illegal firearms that get into the hands of criminals through theft by implementing new measures, the strong measures to require secure storage of those weapons," said Blair.

(Yes - so many assurances that DO NOT address any real solutions! Typical!)

"We’ll also bring in new measures to control ammunition, large-capacity magazines."

(Why not do something about gun smugglers? Why not END the LIE-beral habit of plea bargaining away gun crime charges such as illegal possession? The TRUTH IS LIE-berals do not wish to spend their gravy jailing criminals! Nor do desperate LIE-berals wish to lose voter support among certain ethnic groups!)

The move to introduce nationwide red flag law has been advocated for, for more than 25 years, according to Dr. Alan Drummond, the co-chair of public affairs at the Canadian Association of Emergency Room Physicians (CAEP).

Drummond, who was "surprised and delighted" by the new measures, said that the announcement was especially significant because of how comprehensive the reforms were.

(Oh? LIE-berals have been IGNORING mental health red flag issues for 25 years - and are now offering FAKE solutions that RESOLVE NOTHING!)

He said that added action towards the expansion of said laws would go a long way towards addressing suicide in particular -- which remains the leading cause of firearm death in Canada as of 2016, according to Statistics Canada.

(The LIE-beral position is LUDICROUS! Our current gun laws are specifically designed to keep LEGAL guns out of the hands of suicidal people - and such laws WORK FINE! It is ILLEGAL GUNS that too often are the problem for main stream Canada!)

(Of course on native reserves- where suicide rates are SKY HIGH - and NO GUNS are registered because natives DEFIED LIE-berals - there are many suicidal people and LOTS OF GUNS - with NO LIE-beral mandated way of taking guns OUT OF THE HANDS of suicidal natives since LIE-berals RESPECT native “rights” - even as they trample on ours!)
 

JamesBondo

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Trudeau and Blair BAN 12 Gauge and 10 Gauge SHOTGUNS!


The Canadian Shooting Sports Association and the Canadian Sporting Arms and Ammunition Association demand the immediate withdrawal of the Liberal's flawed Order in Council.


May 5, 2020




Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Minister Bill Blair looked Canadian gun owners in the eye last Friday and said they would not take guns suitable for hunting away from us.


Mr. Blair is either too inept to comprehend the scope of his new regulations...or he lied to the Government and Canadians.


In the legal opinion of our firearms team - headed by Edward Burlew L.L.B. , one of the foremost experts in Canadian firearms law - Bill Blair banned almost every modern 12-gauge and 10-gauge shotgun in Canada with removable chokes because they exceed the maximum bore diameter of 20 mm as defined in SOR/2020-96.


Canada's firearms industry body, the CSAAA, advises retailers to cease sales of many 12-gauge or larger shotguns with removable chokes."


It is estimated there are 1.5 - 2 million of the common hunting firearms in Canada.


As well, many large bore hunting rifles - some over 100 years old and valued over $100,000 have become prohibited. None of these firearms are semi-automatic or "military style." They encompass common bolt-action rifles such as the .460 Weatherby, break-open single and double rifles. These firearms are captured because the powerful cartridges they shoot - designed to humanely dispatch the largest game animals. PURE hunting rifles.


CSAAA also advises retailers to stop sales of "large hunting calibre, non semi-automatic rifles such as the Weatherby Mark V .460 as these rifles exceed the 10,000 Joules energy restriction.


Despite open hunting seasons across much of Canada, lawful firearms owners should refrain from using 12-gauge or larger shotguns with removable chokes or large calibre rifles capable of exceeding the government's energy ceiling.


These firearms are PROHIBITED and may not be used or transported for any reason.


Intentional lies or incompetent mistakes? You decide.


The Canadian Shooting Sports Association (CSSA) and the Canadian Sporting Arms and Ammunition Association (CSAAA) demand the immediate withdrawal of the Liberal's flawed Order in Council and the resignation of Public Safety Minister, Bill Blair.




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Weatherby Mark V bolt action hunting rifle


As Captain Obvious, I feel I have to comment:

THESE PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS!

Vicious, lying, arrogant, manipulative, anti-democratic idiots.
I was about to post this
 

taxme

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Maybe you are being a little bit TOO SUBTLE here Colpy?
I aint getting your point with this one![/QUOTE

Nothing new here, beer spiller. You appear to have a big problem with trying to get the point on anything. But I guess that is just you. Mr. clueless himself. Ha-ha-ha.
 

spilledthebeer

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I was about to post this




AHHHH!!!!!!!! Now I understand! Thank you!


And your post has asked the question regarding whether the new LIE-beral policy is an



"incompetent mistake or an intentional LIE"!


I suggest it is some of BOTH!


That LIE-berals would try to ban a popular calibre of Duck and Goose hunting weapon is STUPEFYING!


Especially since Cdn NATIVES WILL NEVER ACCEPT SUCH AN ORDER!


Natives have not yet even registered their guns!



Banning the smuggling of weapons capable of being equipped with a bump stock and large capacity magazine and becoming a full on



submachine gun - is not illogical!


But banning shot guns is a DELIBERATE attack on LEGAL HUNTERS!


Such an attack is SO PROVOCATIVE AND IRRATIONAL that it prompts SERIOUS QUESTIONS about the LIE-beral mind set


and questions regarding what sort of relationship the LIE-beral party expects to have with ordinary Cdns in the future!


We should recall the WEASEL WORDS of former Privy Council Clerk Michael Wernick in his preliminary remarks



before testifying about Lavalin!



Wernick spoke of the LIE-beral vision of an fearsome anarchic future in which angry citizens would try to assassinate LIE-beral



politicians!


At the time Cdns dismissed his comments as dramatic nonsense - BUT WHAT IF his vision IS TRUE?


ARE LIE-berals PLANNING ACTIONS SO SEVERE AND SELFISH that we will be prompted to take up arms?


HOW BAD IS the future LIE-berals want to build and FORCE ON US??????????


And WHAT PRICE are LIE-berals willing to make US PAY just so they can hang onto power a little longer?
 

petros

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Bill Blair and Justin Trudeau are telling Canadians they are only banning "high powered" centrefire semi-automatic firearms that are not appropriate for hunting or sport shooting. The truth is the ban includes single shot shotguns, bolt-action rifles, .22 rimfire rifles, hunting rifles and even cannons. Apparently, this is what Government considers "military grade weapons".
I can still buy another Tikka T3. Sako Tikka makes the T3x Arctic for the Rangers which just happens to be a militia.

Go figure?

THE RIFLE THAT CANADIAN RANGERS TRUST
When Canadian Rangers were choosing their new rifle, the T3x Arctic beat all of its rivals. Canadian Rangers operate in some of the toughest conditions in the most remote areas of world and they chose the T3x because it combines second to none weather resistance and performance.

https://www.tikka.fi/rifles/tikka-t3x/t3x-arctic
 

Colpy

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What gauge is this. 12 gauge?


Yep. This is the commentary that went with the pic....


So with the 20mm ban on muzzle diameter. I pray that none of you are caught with a 12g semi-auto shotgun that is over that measurement.

This is a 12g, Mossberg 930. Take the choke out and measure.

20.60mm makes this goose & turkey HUNTING gun a prohibited device.

Use of said device results in 10yrs in jail & a lifetime weapons ban.

Are you listening yet? This is not about "assault weapons" this is an attack on our very foundation's of Canada.

Hunting & Firearms.
— with Tracey Wilson, Ken Boyd, Brent Boyd and 44 others in Ottawa, Ontario
 

taxme

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AHHHH!!!!!!!! Now I understand! Thank you!
And your post has asked the question regarding whether the new LIE-beral policy is an
"incompetent mistake or an intentional LIE"!
I suggest it is some of BOTH!
That LIE-berals would try to ban a popular calibre of Duck and Goose hunting weapon is STUPEFYING!
Especially since Cdn NATIVES WILL NEVER ACCEPT SUCH AN ORDER!
Natives have not yet even registered their guns!
Banning the smuggling of weapons capable of being equipped with a bump stock and large capacity magazine and becoming a full on
submachine gun - is not illogical!
But banning shot guns is a DELIBERATE attack on LEGAL HUNTERS!
Such an attack is SO PROVOCATIVE AND IRRATIONAL that it prompts SERIOUS QUESTIONS about the LIE-beral mind set
and questions regarding what sort of relationship the LIE-beral party expects to have with ordinary Cdns in the future!
We should recall the WEASEL WORDS of former Privy Council Clerk Michael Wernick in his preliminary remarks
before testifying about Lavalin!
Wernick spoke of the LIE-beral vision of an fearsome anarchic future in which angry citizens would try to assassinate LIE-beral
politicians!
At the time Cdns dismissed his comments as dramatic nonsense - BUT WHAT IF his vision IS TRUE?
ARE LIE-berals PLANNING ACTIONS SO SEVERE AND SELFISH that we will be prompted to take up arms?
HOW BAD IS the future LIE-berals want to build and FORCE ON US??????????
And WHAT PRICE are LIE-berals willing to make US PAY just so they can hang onto power a little longer?


The lieberals will be allowed to get away with whatever they want to do because of big mouth buffoons like you who do a lot of useless and stupid talking but will never get out there and do the walking you lazy beer spilling of a buffoon.

Hey, did you go bowling yet? Which ear and which finger did you use. Did you knock down at least one pin? Just wondering.
 

Colpy

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Spencer Fernando: Petition Against Liberal Gun Grab Gets Massive Response, Crashes Petition Site.

A Parliamentary Petition created by Jesse Faszer from Calgary and sponsored by Conservative MP Michelle Rempel Garner is generating a massive response, with over 25,000 signatures in just a few hours.
The petition is so popular that it crashed the website multiple times, a sign of how strongly many Canadians are fighting against Trudeau’s disgraceful gun grab.

[spencerfernando.com]
 

gerryh

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Spencer Fernando: Petition Against Liberal Gun Grab Gets Massive Response, Crashes Petition Site.
A Parliamentary Petition created by Jesse Faszer from Calgary and sponsored by Conservative MP Michelle Rempel Garner is generating a massive response, with over 25,000 signatures in just a few hours.
The petition is so popular that it crashed the website multiple times, a sign of how strongly many Canadians are fighting against Trudeau’s disgraceful gun grab.

[spencerfernando.com]


Took over 2 hours for me to get the confirmation email.
 

Ron in Regina

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Assault Style Semi-Auto with Pistol Grip & Detachable Magazine of Unknown Capacity spotted in the hands of an Imperial Stormtrooper outside of the Coco Vanilla Galactic Cantina on May 4th....who's dancing? "That sounds suspicious!!!! Looks like the E-11 Blaster! I think it's on the list boys!!"



The inner workings of blasters essentially create particle beams to inflict damage. When the trigger is pulled, the blaster chambers a small volume of Tibanna gas into a gas conversion enabler (or XCiter). The XCiter excites the gas particles with energy from a power-pack, which attaches to the weapon much like a magazine does to sad Earth weapons. Afterwards, the excited gas is compressed into a beam in the actuating blaster module before being focused by first a prismatic crystal and then the galven circuitry in the barrel of the weapon.


http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/alberta-stormtrooper-bloodied-during-blaster-related-police-response-on-may-the-fourth-1.4925260

A 19-year-old employee at Coco Vanilla Galactic Cantina dressed as a familiar Star Wars stormtrooper and danced outside the restaurant with blaster in hand to mark the occasion of May the Fourth, the day Star Wars fans celebrate the iconic film franchise as a play on the "May the force be with you" line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYOarUVEQf0

"Get down on the ground," shouted one officer, while another approached the costumed woman carrying his long-gun.

"Upon police arrival, the subject dropped the weapon but did not initially comply with further police directions to get down on the ground," police said in the release.

The man shooting the scene on video — which was later posted on YouTube — can be heard expressing his amazement that the police didn't realize the woman posed no threat.

"Are you serious?," he said, as three officers handcuffed his employee, now lying face down on the ground. Whalen told CBC News the police appeared to continue with the takedown even after his employee had thrown the plastic gun to the ground. She was handcuffed while face-down on the pavement, which left her with a bloody nose, he said.

"Our signs on the front of the building say 'Star Wars.' We were playing Star Wars music. It's a stormtrooper, with a stormtrooper blaster. You know, you have to use a little bit of common sense." Thank God she wasn't dressed as a Mountie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a28r2yc_GM