Gerald Stanley Not Guilty

[Tecumsehsbones]

They'd have to be pretty drunk not to stay away!

Ah, more of that spoon-like wit. You're at the top of your game, JLM.

Too bad your game is "Go Fish."

 

[JLM]

Ah, more of that spoon-like wit. You're at the top of your game, JLM.

Too bad your game is "Go Fish."

You're at the top of your game too, you're very good at handing out the insults, but you sure can't take them too well. Why don't you quit acting like an Asshole all the time, your stupidity stands out like a wedding prick!

 

[Twin_Moose]

The fact they were armed makes using a gun for self defence a defendable position.

I think you are on to something

RCMP searching for suspect after attempted break-in, gunshot on farm west of North Battleford

A husband and wife are shaken up after they say someone trespassed onto their farm west of North Battleford, Sask. and fired a gun at the husband.
In a news release, Battleford RCMP confirmed they attended a complaint of breaking and entering at a rural property at approximately 5 a.m. CST on Feb. 18.
According to the RCMP, "an unidentified suspect had been observed breaking into an outbuilding. The same suspect is then believed to have discharged a firearm once at the residence, resulting in a broken window."
Kathy and Ed Smith said they were awoken by their security system early Sunday morning, which notified them of a disturbance at the outside garage door.
Kathy said her husband walked into a bedroom where the garage is visible at night and then heard him yelling at someone to get off the property.
"There was a guy up on the deck, about maybe two feet from the window," she said.
"Ed [hit] the window and said 'get out of here' and the guy turned around and fired."
Kathy Smith said it was about eight inches above where her husband was standing.
"If he had been 5-10 [in height], he would have got a bullet in the brain," she said.
Couple thankful they heard alarm

The incident has left the couple, both 79, shocked and wondering what could have happened if they weren't alerted by the alarm.
"It just scares me to think, what if he broke a window and came in with a gun," she said.
"It seems to be a sad world when you can't even live in your own place without some idiot thinking he can take what we have."
The couple have lived on their farm for 40 years and said they have never experienced an incident like this.
But the reported incident comes amid heightened tensions in the wake of the Feb. 10 acquittal of farmer Gerald Stanley, who was charged with second-degree murder in the 2016 shooting death of Colten Boushie, a young Cree man from Red Pheasant First Nation.
While the defence claimed Stanley's gun misfired on the fatal shot, the case has angered members of Indigenous communities and rallied some of the province's farmers, who have expressed concerns about keeping their properties safe and the RCMP's ability to respond to calls in rural communities in a timely fashion.
The incident this weekend is at a location about two hours northwest of the site of the Stanley property.
RCMP say they dispatched Police Dog Services and believe the suspect had fled on foot into a waiting vehicle.
RCMP describe the suspect as approximately five-foot-seven inches tall, wearing dark clothing and a back pack.
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The investigation is ongoing.

And life goes on for those racist farmers.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You're at the top of your game too, you're very good at handing out the insults, but you sure can't take them too well. Why don't you quit acting like an Asshole all the time, your stupidity stands out like a wedding prick!

Physician, heal thyself. You're being every bit as insulting as I am. Relax and enjoy the hostility.

I know you think your advanced years entitle you to respect. And they do. Too bad you use it all up on being a dullard.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Petition wants GoFundMe to drop Stanley page

An international advocacy group says it has collected thousands of names in a campaign calling for GoFundMe to remove a page that's raising funds for Saskatchewan farmer Gerald Stanley's family.
The online petition launched by the group SumOfUs says the crowdfunding website is profiting from the death of Colten Boushie, an Indigenous man who died on Stanley's farm in 2016.
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A jury acquitted Stanley of second-degree murder in Boushie's death earlier this month and a GoFundMe campaign to assist Stanley's family has raised more than $200,000.
The petition says GoFundMe collects a fee for each donation and a percentage for processing the payment, and it argues the fundraising page violates GoFundMe's terms that prohibit items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime.
"The courts have failed the Boushie family, and now, GofundMe is profiting off of their pain," the petition states.
It further calls on GoFundMe to return all of the donations the campaign has raised.
GoFundMe spokeswoman Rachel Hollis says donations to GoFundMe campaigns in Canada are subject to fees by third-party processors that charge for handling the online payments, but that since December the site has relied on voluntary donations, or tips, from donors to help pay for its website.
"So a donor's entire donation will go to the beneficiary of the campaign and they then have the option to voluntarily tip to help with the cost associated with the platform," Hollis said in an email.

And below nothing like misinformation on repairing the flat tire rhetoric to further your cause

A similar GoFundMe page for Boushie's family, established five months ago, has raised almost $180,000.
The jury heard that Boushie and some friends had been drinking before they broke into a truck on one farm, then headed onto Stanley's property to ask for help for a flat tire. Stanley testified that he thought his ATV was being stolen. After firing warning shots, he said his gun went off accidentally, striking Boushie in the head as he sat in the group's SUV.
Since the not guilty verdict, protests and rallies have been held across the country demanding changes to the justice system and jury process to include more Indigenous people.
"This is one other way that we can talk about this, that there are companies and platforms that are providing a platform for money to be raised for the family for the man who shot and killed Colten Boushie," said Emma Pullman, Canadian campaign manager with SumOfUs.
"What we've seen is a lot of anti-Indigenous, anti-First Nations comments have been on the rise since (Boushie's) tragic death and I think that ultimately this is about calling out the racism that we're seeing in this country and putting it in the spotlight."

The group's web page with the petition calling for the removal of the Stanley fundraiser says it has received over 12,000 signatures.
Previous petitions by SumOfUs have included one against Donald Trump's plans for a golf resort in Scotland, as well as one in 2016 that called for WestJet CEO Greg Saretsky to step down over the company's handling of sexual assault accusations.
The GoFundMe campaign for the Stanley family says the money raised will help them "recoup some of their lost time, property and vehicles that were damaged, harvest income, and sanity during this entire difficult situation."
Hollis noted the campaign does not violate the crowdfunding site's rules.
"Given the jury verdict, the fundraising campaign does not violate our terms of service," Hollis said.

 

[JLM]

Physician, heal thyself. You're being every bit as insulting as I am.

ABSOLUTELY but you started it! I've said it many times but I'll repeat it, so some of you slower guys can catch up. While I would much rather be pleasant and agreeable, what kind of 'game' you want to play is entirely up to you, you can have first choice and then I'll follow. Like you, Putz has also been whining about me on here, but I can accommodate him too!

 

[Cannuck]

ABSOLUTELY but you started it!

Wow!! Another argument I used when I was 7.

 

[Hoid]

Speaking of the go fund me for farmer Shooty McInidanFace - apparently a woman from Ottawa is finding out all the donors names and publishing them online - which has led to death threats against the donors and death threats against the woman.

Any time you get the Twit Listers worked up the death threats are gong to fly.

Fortunately they are a bunch of physical cowards. Talk is their thing.

 

[Murphy]

Tell us how brave you are, Flossy. Tell us what you and your friends talk about at lunch. Do you tell your friends that you try to tease grown ups here? I'll bet you guys laugh!

It's nice to have someone you can talk to, isn't it? That's the comfort of being an adventuresome teen.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

ABSOLUTELY but you started it! I've said it many times but I'll repeat it, so some of you slower guys can catch up. While I would much rather be pleasant and agreeable, what kind of 'game' you want to play is entirely up to you, you can have first choice and then I'll follow. Like you, Putz has also been whining about me on here, but I can accommodate him too!

Seriously? You talk about how bad it is to be insulting, and when I point out that you are what you yourself define as bad, your only answer is "you started it?"

For a man of your years, you have the maturity of an eight-year-old.

 

[JLM]

Seriously? You talk about how bad it is to be insulting, and when I point out that you are what you yourself define as bad, your only answer is "you started it?"

For a man of your years, you have the maturity of an eight-year-old.

I've explained it to you at least twice you f**king moron, I just said I'm easy to get along with you get the opportunity to set the rules and I play accordingly. You are just inordinately stupid!

 

[JLM]

Seriously? You talk about how bad it is to be insulting, and when I point out that you are what you yourself define as bad, your only answer is "you started it?"

For a man of your years, you have the maturity of an eight-year-old.

In all seriousness don't you think it's a little two-faced when you act like an asshole to call down the guy who treats you like an asshole in return and then to call the other guy immature? Don't forget the old adage "you reap what you sow".

 

[Twin_Moose]

Anyone know if this was an all white jury as well

Accused in teen girl's death found not guilty

WINNIPEG - A not-guilty verdict Thursday for a man accused of killing a 15-year-old First Nations girl he met on the streets prompted immediate reaction from Indigenous leaders who criticized the social safety nets that were supposed to keep her safe.
A jury acquitted Raymond Cormier, 56, of the second-degree murder of Tina Fontaine after 11 hours of deliberation.
Tina's body, wrapped in a duvet cover and weighed down with rocks, was pulled from the Red River in Winnipeg eight days after she was reported missing in August 2014. Cormier was charged more than a year later.
The girl's death had prompted renewed calls for an inquiry into missing and murdered Indigenous women.
"The systems — everything — involved in Tina's life failed her. We've all failed her. We as a nation need to do better for our young people. All of us," said Sheila North, grand chief of Manitoba Keewatinowi Okimakanak, an organization that represents northern Manitoba First Nations.
"It might not be this accused person that took her life but someone took her life. That fact remains and we must get to the bottom of it," she said.
"All of us should be ashamed of what happened to her and Colten Boushie and to others."
Boushie was with four other young people who drove their SUV into a Saskatchewan farmyard in August 2016. The young man from the Red Pheasant First Nation died when he was shot in the back of the head as he sat in the vehicle.
The trial of farmer Gerald Stanley was fraught with racial tension that intensified after he was found not guilty earlier this month by an all-white jury. He testified that he fired warning shots to scare the young people before his gun accidentally went off, killing Boushie, 22.
There were gasps from Tina's family and their supporters as the Cormier verdict was read. Her great-aunt Thelma Favel, the woman who raised Tina on the Sagkeeng First Nation, wept. Cormier's reaction was not visible because the prisoner's box faced away from the gallery.
Tina had left her Sagkeeng home to visit her mother in Winnipeg. In the city, Tina spent time on the streets and was being sexually exploited. She had been placed in a hotel by social workers when she disappeared.
"How can we talk about reconciliation when the very nets we are asked to participate in do not fulfil what they are supposed to fulfil?" asked Arlen Dumas, grand chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs.
"We can no longer maintain these mechanisms that are prescribed to us. If we want reconciliation and truly protect our children and families, we can no longer allow the status quo to exist."
Federal Crown-Indigenous Relations Minister Carolyn Bennett tweeted after the verdict.
"Tina's is a tragic story that demonstrates the failures of all the systems for Indigenous children and youth on every level. We need to do better. We need to fix this."
Assembly of First Nations National Chief Perry Bellegarde cited three specific failures.
"The Child and Family Services system, that failed her. The system there that was meant to protect her failed. Then the other one, the policing failed her," he said in a phone interview. "And then the overall justice system — it was a court of law, it wasn't a court of justice."
North also relayed a message from Favel.
"I want to pass on a message from Thelma that we have to maintain the peace," North said. "She does not want to see any more violence against anyone. She doesn't want to see any retaliation, because that's not what our people are about.
"She wants peace. She wants healing. She wants justice and we're going to continue to look for that justice on her behalf."

The Crown had argued that Cormier convicted himself with his own admissions on secret police recordings, but the defence said numerous forensic holes in the prosecution's case had left reasonable doubt.
There was no DNA evidence linking Cormier to the teen and doctors who were called to testify said they could not definitively say how Tina died.
Over three weeks of testimony, the jury heard how Tina's relatively stable upbringing spiralled out of control when her father was murdered.
She and her boyfriend met Cormier in the summer of 2014. The jury heard Cormier gave the couple a place to stay, gave Tina drugs and had sex with her.
Witnesses remember Tina and Cormier fighting in the street over a stolen truck and Tina accusing him of selling her bike for drugs. Tina went so far as to report a stolen truck to police.
Winnipeg police declined to comment on where the case goes from here, calling their original investigation, which included a six-month undercover sting, "extensive."
"Generally after a trial, the case, including the court proceedings themselves will be examined to determine if an appeal is possible or appropriate," police said in a statement. "While that process is ongoing, we have made the decision to not comment on this case directly."
Derrick Henderson, chief of Tina's home reserve, echoed other Indigenous leaders in saying the system needs to be fixed.
"My community of Sagkeeng will be hurting as I go home today," he said outside court. "The people in this country need to know Tina was loved by everybody.
"The system has failed our people. We need to correct that. We need to right that for all the Indigenous people in this world."

 

[petros]

Of course it wasn't or we'd hear cries of racism from the peanut gallery.

Her mom was upset but her 15 year old was living in a hotel.

Greeeeeat mom. Not even.

 

[JLM]

I think it's time before we all get outraged at jury verdicts to give some thought to the verdict David Milgaard (and others) had to suffer for many years before it was rectified! "Better that one guilty man go free than a thousand................."

 

[Mowich]

Tina Fontaine's great-aunt shocked by sex-trafficking charges against girl's cousin - Manitoba - CBC News

theglobeandmail.com/news/national/before-her-death-tina-fontaine-stayed-at-apartment-now-in-sex-trafficking-probe/article24947318/

 

[petros]

Tina Fontaine's great-aunt shocked by sex-trafficking charges against girl's cousin - Manitoba - CBC News

theglobeandmail.com/news/national/before-her-death-tina-fontaine-stayed-at-apartment-now-in-sex-trafficking-probe/article24947318/

Native gangbangers gotta bang.

And they need an inquiry into how the women are disappearing?

 

[Decapoda]

Anyone know if this was an all white jury as well

Accused in teen girl's death found not guilty

It doesn't matter. It's racism, if it's not racism, it's the system's fault....CFS is to blame....the country's to blame...the government is to blame...drugs are to blame...a fatherless upbringing is to blame....19th century colonialism is to blame...everyone and everything is to blame, except for anyone in the indigenous community, because...you know...they're the victims.

Until people start being honest with themselves, and putting the responsibility where it actually belongs, until the problems are correctly identified, confronted, and addressed instead of being excused for bullshit scapegoat reasons, nothing is going to change for indigenous people in this country.

Yelling racism at everyone and blaming "the system" does nothing to improve the situation, and never will.

 

[justlooking]

It doesn't matter. It's racism, if it's not racism, it's the system's fault....CFS is to blame....the country's to blame...the government is to blame...drugs are to blame...a fatherless upbringing is to blame....19th century colonialism is to blame...everyone and everything is to blame, except for anyone in the indigenous community, because...you know...they're the victims.

Until people start being honest with themselves, and putting the responsibility where it actually belongs, until the problems are correctly identified, confronted, and addressed instead of being excused for bullshit scapegoat reasons, nothing is going to change for indigenous people in this country.

Yelling racism at everyone and blaming "the system" does nothing to improve the situation, and never will.

Yes, because we all know that letting your 15 year old daughter travel unsupervised to a big city is perfectly fine.

Her lying to the police is perfectly OK.

Her walking out on social workers is perfectly acceptable.

No one did nuthin wrong. Ever.

 

[captain morgan]

And they need an inquiry into how the women are disappearing?

It's a best of 7 deal.

FNs are in a tight spot being down 3 Royal Commission findings to none

It doesn't matter. It's racism, if it's not racism, it's the system's fault....CFS is to blame....the country's to blame...the government is to blame...drugs are to blame...a fatherless upbringing is to blame....19th century colonialism is to blame...everyone and everything is to blame, except for anyone in the indigenous community, because...you know...they're the victims.

Until people start being honest with themselves, and putting the responsibility where it actually belongs, until the problems are correctly identified, confronted, and addressed instead of being excused for bullshit scapegoat reasons, nothing is going to change for indigenous people in this country.

Yelling racism at everyone and blaming "the system" does nothing to improve the situation, and never will.

It's amazing how so many people and groups are shirking any and all personal responsibility on their own lives.

Pretty sad really