Death of multiculturalism in Europe.

tamarin

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Good point, Sassy! But I like to hit where the most damage can be done. Feminists (and I like some of them!)are no more vulnerable than when discussing the state of girls today. Granted - and this is where I like them - girls have made impressive gains in educational training and achievement. But girls also are lost. They are hooked on celebrity crap, promiscuity, the cheap and hollow all in the name of 'cool' and they're making bad choices everywhere I look on relationships and friendships and personal habits (they must smoke a ton of cigs a day locally). Feminism brought in huge change and now has left its most vulnerable charges leaderless. It is despicable. (Getting to like that word!)
 

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"evolution".... exactly! It is a process. In some cases the minority is pushing itself onto the dominant culture. This is necessary for it to firmly establish itself. Too much assimilation/amalgamation leads to the loss of distinctiveness. What we really are seeing is the whining of those that think they are being "pushed upon" out of their own myopia. Eventually balances will be struck, but these balances will result in a different world structure than has been seen before. This approach is more favorable to the alternative of a global monoculture.

I'm all for a balance if I am reading you correctly.
 

Sassylassie

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Good point, Sassy! But I like to hit where the most damage can be done. Feminists (and I like some of them!)are no more vulnerable than when discussing the state of girls today. Granted - and this is where I like them - girls have made impressive gains in educational training and achievement. But girls also are lost. They are hooked on celebrity crap, promiscuity, the cheap and hollow all in the name of 'cool' and they're making bad choices everywhere I look on relationships and friendships and personal habits (they must smoke a ton of cigs a day locally). Feminism brought in huge change and now has left its most vulnerable charges leaderless. It is despicable. (Getting to like that word!)

Tamarin I think the age of feminism is dead, I would like to see the funds alloted to the Status of Women or what ever it's called stopped asap (25,000 million devoted to what exactly) and a new fund for Equality for all regardless of sex. The young females today lack role models, even Opera spends most of her time dicussing being fat getting fat or dieting. I also think the young males of today are going down the same path as the females, this is the generation that will be taking care of my generation god help us.

Caracole wrote: actually sassy, I have seen feminists speaking out quite loudly against religious gender discriminate.

Yes they speak out against gender but where is their voice when women are being beaten because she is deem a lessor being than the male? Where is the feminist voice when females are being sexually mutilated? They are mute on the important issues but they roar when it comes to gender equality in the work force, those days are gone it's a dead horse and frankly women don't need them telling Corporate Canada what we want I didn't elect them and it's the Feds that hand them the money and their agenda is just that an agenda to keep the cash flowing so they can keep their rather posh jobs. Feminist are so out of touch with what is going on in society they are worse than the steriotypes that help found the movement.
 

the caracal kid

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yes, ITN, I am for balance.

sassy, when I said "religious gender discrimination" I was refering to feminists speaking out against female circumsision, etc, not corporate equality.
 

DurkaDurka

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:lol: indeed animals generally do not like change! However, people fear difference only out of ignorance, or view as a potential threat. Effective cross-cultral exposure removes that issue, and allows for more harmony. The map of the future will be quite different.

All I have to say to that is... have you ever been to Toronto? Cross-Cultural exposure doesn't do squat, Toronto is a series of smaller cities defined by race... Downtown Toronto = Mostly White . Markham = Mostly Asian. Scarborough = blacks in the southern end, asians in the north end and so.
 

the caracal kid

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yes, durka, I have been to toronto (worked there on 3 work terms). Cross-cultural exposure and acceptance does work, but it needs to be more than lip-service. It has to be a collection of equals, which currently we tend to not see (which causes all this friction). Success comes from real cross-cultural experiences, not from the reinforcement of stereotypes. It needs to be guided and encouraged, which is what the essence of multiculturalism should be. Assimilation is not the answer. Assimilation generates the same problems as the teething-problems of multi-cult as well as leaving nothing but a culture of generics.
 

Sassylassie

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Sorry Caracal but I haven't heard a peep out of the feminist in NS or NFL on any subject that wasn't about the "Glass Ceiling".