Cyberbullying victim can remain anonymous

CDNBear

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Dude he'd be trying to ban everyone who disagrees with him.
Oh so true.

Is it just me, or does it seem like most of the members in these forums have gotten way too wound up over the last few months / year?
It's just you.

Man you guys are taking this internet stuff a bit too seriously, flying off the handle over silly comments you don't agree with, getting upset over situations that don't even directly affect you, not to mention getting upset over stories of people you don't know and have no direct impact on your own lives.
I have no idea who you're talking about, unless you're projecting.

sniping, tossing personal attacks/insults, very little debate....
I've said it many times, though your posts are long, they're oft empty.

Take a pill, hug a rainbow, toss a midget, lighten the hell up.... cripes.
Projection.

It's not just you.
This doesn't surprise me,you cant read body language or emotions very well over the internet like you can face to face.
For example I get pm's telling me to relax and settle down and in reality I haven't got mad at anything or anyone in over ten years.:)
Life is too short to worry about **** you have no control over.

I just smile and wave.
Is that why you make up lies, post incredibly ignorant claims and otherwise cry like a bitch, hypocritically?

Who then?
You? Bear? Ger?
I was just asked to ignore your baiting.

Like I said,I dont get mad....ever.
Yes you dod, lol.

Some peeps take these forums more serious then they do real life.
Yep, you.

I was very glad to hear this! She deserves to keep her anonymity. It's bad enough the crap that she had to put up with with the cyber-bullying in the first place, and she shouldn't have to have her name made public because the media demands it. Her wellbeing is more important than the media's cries for "full disclosure!".
I disagree, she should be identified.

"Right to face your accuser".
 

TenPenny

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I would have to suggest that those who are being accused know who is accusing them, considering the case.

It does bring up an interesting legal argument. Too many cases of the police wanting to seal things so that nobody's feelings get hurt.
 

CDNBear

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I suspect she would be present in court against her accuser. They will just call her A.B. I don't think her accused needs her name to be faced.
The article states that her name is already known. The account created to mock her had her name, with a slightly different spelling, as well as a likeness of her.

I'm not even sure why they are attempting to hide something that is already known to the accused.

Although given what I'm sure is rather ignorant material that was posted on the fake page, I can understand the family's wish to keep their daughter distanced from it.

I'm kind of torn here. I believe in the right to face one's accuser, but again, I do understand the sentiment behind the wishes of the family.
 

SLM

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I disagree, she should be identified.

"Right to face your accuser".

We are either dealing with one of two things here. Criminal justice or a civil matter.

If it's a civil matter does such a right even exist?

If it's a criminal matter, the accused being under the age of 18 would automatically be barred from having their name printed in the press. Why shouldn't the victim have the same consideration?

And the court order for the news media to not refer to the victim by name has nothing to do with facing your accuser, does it? It's really just about whether the rest of us get to gossip about this girl by given name or pseudonym.
 

CDNBear

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We are either dealing with one of two things here. Criminal justice or a civil matter.

If it's a civil matter does such a right even exist?

If it's a criminal matter, the accused being under the age of 18 would automatically be barred from having their name printed in the press. Why shouldn't the victim have the same consideration?

And the court order for the news media to not refer to the victim by name has nothing to do with facing your accuser, does it? It's really just about whether the rest of us get to gossip about this girl by given name or pseudonym.
The lower Courts had found that they had to be identified in the Court Order against Eastlink.

In youth court, a docket is numbered to protect the identity of the accused. But the Orders must contain the accused's full identity.

The article could be making incorrect statements, based on a lack of knowledge.

A judge agreed to A.B.'s request for a court order compelling internet service provider, Eastlink, to identify the owner of the IP address, but stayed the order until A.B. and her father agreed to identify themselves in the order. The judge also rejected their request that the defamatory details of the Facebook page remain secret. A Court of Appeal agreed with the judge's rulings.


Thursday's Supreme Court ruling overturns those lower court decisions and grants A.B. the right to pursue the case using only her initials, but it denied the request to ban details of the Facebook page.

A ban on the presses identification of the victim should have been sufficient.

But again, the article may be wrong, my position based on those facts may also be wrong.
 

SLM

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The lower Courts had found that they had to be identified in the Court Order against Eastlink.

In youth court, a docket is numbered to protect the identity of the accused. But the Orders must contain the accused's full identity.

The article could be making incorrect statements, based on a lack of knowledge.



A ban on the presses identification of the victim should have been sufficient.

But again, the article may be wrong, my position based on those facts may also be wrong.

Gotchya.