Cowardly Chirac caves in to protesters.

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Good news for Britain and American.

France's notoriously cowardly politcians have caved in to the demands of protesting, lazy French workers and students. They protested AGAINST a youth employment law that would have TACKLED France's high unemployment rate.

This, surely, will make France even LESS competitive in the world than it already is.

Unions and student leaders said it was "a great victory."

So what will they get now? A 20-hour work week and retirement at age 35?
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France to replace youth job law
Al Bibisiya, Monday, 10 April 2006, news.bbc.co.uk .

Millions have joined protests across France against the job law

French President Jacques Chirac has announced that the new youth employment law that sparked weeks of sometimes violent protests will be scrapped.

He said it would be replaced by other measures to tackle youth unemployment.

Millions of students and union members have taken to the streets over the last month in protest against the law, which made it easier to fire young workers.

Unions and student leaders said it was "a great victory" and were due to meet to decide if the protests should go on.

The law introduced a new work contract, known as the First Employment Contract or CPE for under-26s.

It was to allow a two-year trial period, during which employers could end a contract without explanation.

The plan to replace the legislation setting out the CPE was announced after a meeting between the president, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin and other senior ministers on Monday.

'Dramatic situation'

Speaking in a live television address, Mr de Villepin said the president had accepted his proposed changes.

The new measures would aim to help the most disadvantaged young people find jobs, he said.

The prime minister said he was convinced that the only way of addressing joblessness in France was a better balance between flexibility for employers and security for employees.

"For some time the action of the government had been guided by one objective, to provide thousands of young people from our society with opportunities for jobs," he said.

"I wanted to act very quickly because the dramatic situation and the despair of a number of young people warranted it.

"This was not understood by everyone, I'm sorry to say," said Mr de Villepin, who saw his poll ratings decline during the two-month crisis.

There had been calls for Mr de Villepin to resign because he was so closely identified with the employment law but correspondents say he made it clear he intends to stay in office.

His goal now, he said, was to work for the future of the country, adding that he hoped all French people would work together.

Demands

Union leaders had given the government until Easter weekend to withdraw the law or face a repeat of the recent general strikes.

Mr de Villepin has seen his popularity fall during the crisis

Several groups indicated that their conditions had been met, the French news agency AFP reported.

Student leader Julie Coudry called for protesters to lift blockades at dozens of universities so students could prepare for their end-of-year exams.

"The CPE is dead, the CPE is well and truly finished," she said.

But some students appeared unwilling to abandon their protest.

Many had wanted the entire law to be revoked, not just the artcile introducing the employment contract.

"Our demands have not really been met," Lise Prunier, a student at the Univerity of Paris-Jussieu told the Associated Press.
 

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The French Disease
By Guy Millière
FrontPageMagazine.com | April 7, 2006

within 20 years, one person out of four (a quarter) in France will be Muslim, and almost certainly poor and angry.

"France: Riots again,” read a Time headline last week. The title could be the same this week. Riots are starting to become a way of life in France , or maybe it's the sign of something more sinister.

Last November it was cars, warehouse, and schools in flames. Now it is casseurs randomly smashing in storefront windows and administering random beatings. The world has started to discover that beneath the postcard surfaces of the Eiffel Tower and romantic restaurants, the country of arrogance was very sick. Slums and ghettoes in the banlieus ; a racism against Arabs and foreigners that dare not speak its name; Muslim youngsters living a thug's life of radical Islam, violence and drugs; widespread anti-Semitism; high rates of unemployment.

The present riots were a storm ready to blow. Many politicians knew it. They did not try to speak of solutions because they knew there were none. One of them, a member of the government, said to me: "We are on the verge of disaster." It is a symptom of where France now stands, that he asked me not to use his name.

Nothing has changed since the riots of November. No politician is offering real solutions. France is still on the verge of disaster. What did happen during the last few weeks just showed how very close disaster actually is.

Because next year’s presidential elections will be next year, and because he wanted to be presidential, the present French prime minister, the Napoleonic Dominique de Villepin, has decided to create a new contract, making it easier for young people to get a first job. This very small step in the direction of the free market and reality was too large a step in a sclerotic country like France .

For decades, France has been the country of lifetime employment, the country where almost everybody's dream is to become a civil servant, the country where it's forbidden to work more than thirty-five hours a week and where six weeks of vacations a year are mandatory. Little by little, the burden has become too heavy. Books have been published about the day of reckoning when the country would go bankrupt, but nobody paid attention. "If you move, you die," another politician told me. He added: "If you want to be a politician in France , you must not tell the truth. Never." Dominique de Villepin did not tell the truth, but he did move. He is almost dead now. And he is not the only one.

What we are witnessing in fact is the repetition of an old drama. Twenty years ago, the Prime Minister was a man by the name of Jacques Chirac. He tried to make (very tiny) reforms in the university system. Protests and riots followed. Chirac lost all chance of rising to the presidency in the presidential elections two years later, and François Mitterrand, the socialist President, was very easily reelected in 1988. (It was not a surprise; the incumbent’s chief promise was to do nothing.)

Eleven years ago, in 1995, another Prime Minister, Alain Juppé, tried to make very timid reforms in the status of civil servants. Protests. Riots. Strikes. A few weeks later, Juppé was out. Two years later, France had a socialist Prime Minister who promised to do worse than nothing, and who kept his promise. Among many other decisions, Lionel Jospin created a minimum income for all people who were 25 or over. Until then, the French had the "right" to retire at 60. Thanks to Jospin’s minimum income, they can retire at 25!!!!!!!!!!!!

If he had wanted to be sure to get elected next year, Dominique de Villepin should have made further gestures toward the socialism which has France teetering on the brink. He opted for something else. It was a big mistake. Now the trade unions, leftists, socialists, all the people who are the guardians of French sterility, know he is almost dead, politically speaking. But they want more, much more this time: they want him to commit political suicide in public. They smell blood; they feel the fight is one to the death and are certain that they want to be the last men standing. They don't care about the future of the country or the future of the young people they send into the streets. They care only of their own future and thus each party in the coalition of chaos follows his own desperate agenda.

Trade unions in France are weak, highly politicized: most of their members work for the French state and they want things to stay this way. What they care for are the benefits of their members, and these they will fight for even if they must kill the country and its future. They are ready to see everything else destroyed. Their leaders know that the benefits of the members are paid by condemning millions of people to poverty, but they know their motto: apres nous le déluge .

Leftists in France are still dreaming about revolution and the destruction of capitalism and they have a point: the polls show that France is the developed country where the distaste for capitalism is the strongest; the only western country where globalization is considered a dangerous development by a majority of the population.

Socialists want to enjoy political power again, as soon as possible, even if they have no ideas. And they have a point too. Almost all the journalists in France are fervent socialists, as the way they describe events shows. Almost all the teachers and university professors are fervent socialists too. And the students who are in the streets now repeat like puppets what they have been told by trade unionists, leftists, professors, journalists, and socialist politicians. They would like to have jobs and rosy prospects. They do not understand those that are inciting them to protest are those who are primarily responsible for their dark and hopeless situation in the first place. They do not understand that the privileges their parents enjoy have a price and that they are the ones who will have to pay the bill. They don't understand that they themselves are the victims of the privileges of their parents. In fact, they understand nothing about the world they live in because they have been brainwashed since primary school into believing that they deserve a job, a nice car, an apartment, a good salary—all of this immediately—and that the purpose of government is to provide them with all this.

The people who have taught these students would have been fired as totally incompetent had they been teaching in Poland or in Hungary after the fall of communism: there, it is no longer possible to say with a straight face that you're both an economist and a Marxist. In France , on the other hand, such a claim gives you instant credibility.

Within two or three years, the "leaders of the students" will be leaders of the socialist party: business as usual. Next year, there is a good chance the socialist party will rule again, even if the socialists have no ideas (or maybe because the socialists have no ideas). The people who work directly for Nicolas Sarkozy, the only "hope" of the French conservatives think it's too late, and the chances to see Sarkozy elected in 2007 have been lost now. Sarkozy has trickily started to pull the rug from under Villepin by “dialoguing” with the rioters. So very French of him! Spring vacation is coming soon, and for the French people, vacations are the only thing more sacred than strikes and protests.

A few things are for certain. The students who protest indeed have a dark future. They will live in a country that looks more and more like a slowly sinking ship—so slowly that it is able to convince itself that it is merely taking water. Some of these students, the smartest, will leave the ship before it's really too late and they will go to the UK , to Ireland , to Canada , to the US .

The people who come for the riots, who rioted last November and have been fellow travelers this spring, will continue. They have nothing to lose. Whatever happens, they know they will live in the ghettoes and in the slums, they know they are condemned to a thug's life. Even students with a hazardous future have privileges they will never have. They call themselves "scum," and in fact, it's what they are. Even if the don't join directly the ranks of radical Islam, they think the future of France belongs to it: within 20 years, one person out of four in France will be Muslim, and almost certainly poor and angry.

So the French disease progresses. It is chronic becoming terminal. On the way toward collapse, there will be no civil war, just moments of harsh violence. The population will change. People with a high level of productivity will choose exile.

People with a low level of productivity will immigrate. Jews and Christians will leave. Muslims will arrive. The number of barbarians like those who killed Ilan Halimi in February will increase. The French economy will crumble more and more. The legitimacy of the French political system will become thinner year after year: old whites voting for old whites while young dark skinned people organize the rule of the mob in wider and wider districts.

I could say that democracy in France vanished a long time ago: when decisions taken by a legally elected parliament can be wiped away on a regular basis by violence in the streets, you are not in a democracy anymore. No wonder France is a less democratic society every day and a more fearful one.

www.frontpagemag.com . . .
 

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No, but there's still the rivarly between the two nations.

I love poking fun at the lazy Frogs. On another forum, I've had Frenchman calling the British "slaves" - because they have to work for a living.
 

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RE: Cowardly Chirac caves

The law introduced a new work contract, known as the First Employment Contract or CPE for under-26s.

It was to allow a two-year trial period, during which employers could end a contract without explanation.

You're telling me that you wouldn't protest against legislation making it legal for your employer to fire you without cause?

I agree with most of the rest of it, but com'mon.
 

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Blackleaf said:
Good news for Britain and American.

I don't think its good for the UK and America. A growing Europe is good for everyone because there is more demand for British and American goods.

Economics and trade are not zero sum games. That seems to be what the protestors in France believe.
 

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Blackleaf said:
Good news for Britain and American.

France's notoriously cowardly politcians have caved in to the demands of protesting, lazy French workers and students. They protested AGAINST a youth employment law that would have TACKLED France's high unemployment rate.

This, surely, will make France even LESS competitive in the world than it already is.

Unions and student leaders said it was "a great victory."

So what will they get now? A 20-hour work week and retirement at age 35?
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Victoire pour les francais.Je suis tres fier d etre d'origine francaise.


French peoples has shown to their governement who is the boss, and something quitely rare in this world, that governement listen to their peoples, congrats to all french peoples.


Big victory.
 

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Blackleaf said:
No, but there's still the rivarly between the two nations.

I love poking fun at the lazy Frogs. On another forum, I've had Frenchman calling the British "slaves" - because they have to work for a living.

What you don t like about the french peoples , is those peoples have balls , something that you have lost a long time ago.
 

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aeon je ne suis pas d origine francaise mais je suis avec vous---

yes i agree the french people have the guts to fight that rediculous law
the young people and students fought it because it was unjust--


as someone who speaks english i am ashamed that there are narrow minded people like blackleaf giving us all a bad name---
i love montreal the city and the people-- and i love france its a wonderfull country with a world class culture

the real basis for blackleafs antagonism is envy-- you have to see it for what it is
 

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I saw a movie onces that had the line in it

"The French would rather make love with their faces than fight."

I think the movie was "The Last of the Mohicans" with Daniel Day Lewis. A very good movie to see.
 

Kreskin

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Chirac and Bush are more alike than most other politicians on the planet.
 

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Re: RE: Cowardly Chirac caves in to protesters.

cortezzz said:
aeon je ne suis pas d origine francaise mais je suis avec vous---

yes i agree the french people have the guts to fight that rediculous law
the young people and students fought it because it was unjust--


as someone who speaks english i am ashamed that there are narrow minded people like blackleaf giving us all a bad name---
i love montreal the city and the people-- and i love france its a wonderfull country with a world class culture

the real basis for blackleafs antagonism is envy-- you have to see it for what it is


Dont worry my friend, i dont think all english are like blackleaf, all peoples have met from toronto,winnipeg, saskatoon, vancouver, edmonton, new york , ottawa, detroit, are incredibly amazing peoples with a lot of respect for others and they are no where near like blackleaf is.You know moronity isnt from a specific place, it is all over the world.
 

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Re: RE: Cowardly Chirac caves in to protesters.

cortezzz said:
the real basis for blackleafs antagonism is envy-- you have to see it for what it is

And I will remember you said that, and at the opportune moment I will use it against you. Beware, you have been warned. Bwahahahaha!
 

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cortezzz said:
so what...

"The French would rather make love with their faces than fight" appears to be a trueism associated with the French Culture. I did not make it up and its part of the culture's reputation.

Just like the Spanish are the Latin Lovers. Japan famous for productivity. German industry...etc.
 

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Vetoed Legislation

À mon avis, si son excellence Jacques Chirac, le Président de la Républicue française, crois que la loi devrait être annulée, c'est son droit comme le chef d'état de la France de l'annuler; en fait, je suis d'accord avec lui. Si son excellence pourrait voir que beaucoup de ses citoyennes (probablement la majorité) s'opposer cette loi, c'était son choix.

[i said:
Blackleaf[/i]]France's notoriously cowardly politcians have caved in to the demands of protesting, lazy French workers and students. They protested AGAINST a youth employment law that would have TACKLED France's high unemployment rate.
Even if this law was proven to have been a good (or even the best) strategy to combat issues such as a low employment rate among youth, sometimes the better ideas must be discarded because they are unpopular — such is, perhaps, one of the double-edged swords of democracy. In my opinion, the situation that has occurred in France is, in a way, an example to the people of other nations — whereas sometimes it seems as though matters of our legislators are beyond the reach of citizens once those legislators are elected or appointed, the French have proven that protests continue to give the people sway over their representatives.

:!: Revision : Corrected a typing error.
 

iamcanadian

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It is also a graphic example of how the Non-French Candians are getting screwed in this country by the French Canadians who will protest to get advantages over the 80% of Canadians that are Non-French.

If there is any example to be gotten it is for the 80% of Non-French Canadians to fight back and restore equality between French and Non-French in this country.

We should not be a conquered people by the 20% that whine to get advantages over the rest of us.
 

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Johnny Utah said:
France surrenders again who would have thought? :roll:

The French government has quite the habit of doing so whenever there are demonstrations.

Sunday, Apr. 09, 2006
Liberty, Equality, Mediocrity
The strangest revolution the French have ever produced
By CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

... And now, in a new act of revolutionary creativity, the French are at it again. Millions of young people and trade unionists, joined by some underclass opportunists looking for a good night out, have taken to the streets again. To rise up against what? In massive protest against a law that would allow employers to fire an employee less than 26 years old in the first two years of his contract.

That's a very long way from liberty, equality, fraternity. The spirit of this revolution is embodied most perfectly in the slogan on many placards: CONTRE LA PRÉCARITÉ, or "Against Precariousness." The precariousness of being subject to being fired. The precariousness of the untenured life, even if the work is boring and the boss no longer wants you. And ultimately, the precariousness of life itself, any weakening of the government guarantee of safety, conformity, regularity.

Nor are the current riots about equality. On the contrary. Their effect would be to enforce inequality. The unemployment rate in France is 10%. For young people under 26 it is 23%, and almost 1 in 10 kids who leave high school don't have a job five years after taking the baccalaureate. Much of that unemployment encompasses those of the alienated immigrant underclass, who are less educated, less acculturated and less likely ever to be hired than the mostly native student rioters. And these young rioters want to keep things just that way--to rely not just on their advantages of class, education and ethnicity but also on an absolute guarantee from the state that their very first job will be for life, with no one to challenge them for it. ...

Against precariousness? The vibrancy of a society can almost be measured by its precariousness. Free markets correlate not just with prosperity and wealth but also with dynamism. The classic example is China today, an economic and social Wild West with entire classes, regions, families and individuals rising and falling in ways that must terrify today's young demonstrators in Paris. In France not a single enterprise founded in the past 40 years has managed to break into the ranks of the nation's 25 biggest companies.

Precariousness is an essential element in the life of the entrepreneur, a French word now more associated with the much despised Anglo-Saxon "liberalism" and its merciless dog-eat-dog capitalism. But these days the best examples of the entrepreneurial spirit are hardly Anglo-Saxon: China, India, Korea, Chile, all rising and growing, even as France and much of Europe decline.

Against precariousness? That is perhaps to be expected in a country where 76% of 15-to-30-year-olds say they aspire to civil service jobs from which it's almost impossible to be fired. This flight from risk is not just a sign of civilizational senescence. It is a parody of the welfare state. Yes, the old should be protected from precariousness because they are exhausted; the sick, because they are too weak. But privileged students under the age of 26? They cannot endure 24 months of precariousness at the prime of life, the height of their energy?

There have, I suppose, been other peoples in other places who yearned for a life of mediocrity. But leave it to the French to make a revolution in its name.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1181649,00.html