Conservatives gaining

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Daily Gleaner | E-Brief
As published on page A1/A2 on June 1, 2004

Conservatives gaining
Harper could achieve minority government

Canadian Press

OTTAWA - If angry voters decide to punish incumbent Liberals by sending a minority Conservative government to Ottawa on June 28, they could be setting the stage for another vote before too long, experts are predicting this week.

The minority government concept has been growing more popular as the election campaign heads into Week 2 with the Liberals losing ground in public opinion polls.

Pollster Frank Graves, for one, has said that after three consecutive majorities, the best the Liberals can hope for now is a minority government.

"(That) would seem to be an optimistic conclusion for (Prime Minister) Paul Martin, given the trajectory of current forces," he said.

That's fuelling interest in a possible minority government headed by Conservatives.

But experts say party Leader Stephen Harper could have trouble finding opposition allies to support legislation under a new minority government he might establish.

That, in turn, would mean another federal election in short order, something not everyone would like to see.

However, it could be Harper's interim goal if he wins a minority in the federal vote, says political scientist Paul Thomas.

After a short period of trying to govern, Harper could then try to discredit opposition Liberals as being obstructionist and urge voters to give his Conservatives a real mandate.

"(Harper) could say to the electorate, 'The Liberals just can't stand to be out of power, they think they have a God-given right to govern so let's go back to (balloting) ... to confirm what they almost confirmed last time: that it's time for a change,'" said Thomas, who teaches at the University of Manitoba in Winnipeg.

"Their overall strategy might be to hasten their own demise."

That was the successful strategy used by former Tory prime minister John Diefenbaker, who boasted the shortest minority government in history - only 177 days, from August 1957 to February 1958. After that, he won a landslide victory.

The concept is gaining popularity as voters, outraged by the sponsorship scandal, see these minorities as a way of keeping tighter control over Ottawa, said Thomas.

"Canadians have lost some of their faith in politicians and they think if (politicians) are clinging to power, they'll listen more carefully to what voters are saying than if you give them a big majority."

The depth of voter anger can be seen in how fast they seem to have embraced the new Conservative party, born last December when the Canadian Alliance merged with the old PCs, said Faron Ellis, a political scientist at Lethbridge Community College in southern Alberta.

"Just six months ago, very few people were even predicting Paul Martin would be in trouble," said Ellis, who thinks a minority Conservative government "is still a longshot."

Nor would it last long.

Few Liberals and no New Democrats would likely support any minority Conservative legislation.

Harper could possibly barter with the Bloc Quebecois, their only natural ally, on issues related to devolving federal powers to the provinces, said Ellis.
 

Anonymous

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the bloc Québécois will only make case by case (I hope)

They'll defend Quebec interest before everything since they are the only party to protect Quebec. If Harper really think quebec, the most pacific nation of the world, will accept that the military budget goes up 1,2 billion/year....he's dreaming hard.
 

Numure

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He is. Québécois will never allow it. We have other priorities then the Military. Like Health Care, Education, Social Programs.... All more important then invading other countries in America's imperialist ways.

And the Bloc in Québec is also in majority grounds. 46%, almost 15 points in front of the Liberals.
 

Anonymous

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BUT OUR MILITARY IS IN URGENT NEED OF AN UPGRADE, I WASN'T IN FAVOUR OF THE WAR, BUT STILL AM LEVEL HEADED ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THE LIBERALS HAVE LET IT SLIDE INTO A STATE OF TRAJIC DISREPAIR. THE WAR ON TERROR IS NOT ONLY A PROBLEM FOR THE U.S. IT IS A PROBLEM FOR US. IRAQ AND THE WAR ON TERROR ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE WENT INTO IRAQ (WELL DEFINITELY NOT WITHOUT ANY SORT OF PLAN) BUT SHOULD THEY GO AFTER TERRORISTS? DAMN RIGHT. AND WE SHOULD TO. WE HAVE NEVER BEEN AN ISOLATIONIST COUNTRY AND THIS ISN'T THE GLOBAL CLIMATE TO START NOW. WHAT IF THERE WAS ANOTHER GREAT WAR? WOULD WE EVEN BE ABLE TO FIGHT TO DEFEND OUR HOME AND FAMILIES. IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE AND I DONT KNOW WHY PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK IT NEVER COULD AGAIN. WE WOULD BE LEFT HIGH AND DRY. (AND RUNNING TO THE AMERICANS FOR PROTECTION) YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TO.
 

Démocrite

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You don't fight Terror with tanks and brand-new F-18s. We don't need a modern high-tech military since we've never had to fight a war home. We need a low-scale army only to meet the commiments we made on the international scene (NATO, UN). This international involvement basically takes the shape of peace-keeping missions.
 

Proud_Quebecer

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Whoever wins...it s all lies

In french ..gouvernement si on separe ce mot =gouverner + mentir
govern + lies
 

Anonymous

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For the first time in a long time you will see many English Canadians cheering on the Bloc. For if the bloc can grab the official opposition we may not need endure either a Conservative or Liberal government run amock.