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Pierre doesnt seem to be a really good option for Canadians in my opinion. He just strikes me as the loudest voice in the room trying one up the other guy. You know like that guy in the lunchroom at work who wont shut up.

What are his policies on housing, our money supply/inflation, immigration, our taxes, Ukraine, Tiawan, etc....

Working Canadians dont have a party to represent them. The NDP, lol, Jagmeets watch is worth more than most peoples cars and that party has always been tax, tax, tax.....

Someone enlighten me on why pierre is being championed?
 
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Pierre doesnt seem to be a really good option for Canadians in my opinion. He just strikes me as the loudest voice in the room trying one up the other guy. You know like that guy in the lunchroom at work who wont shut up.

What are his policies on housing, our money supply/inflation, immigration, our taxes, Ukraine, Tiawan, etc....

Working Canadians dont have a party to represent them. The NDP, lol, Jagmeets watch is worth more than most peoples cars and that party has always been tax, tax, tax.....

Someone enlighten me on why pierre is being championed?
Pierre is popular like a “sleeper” Hotrod is popular. The four door family sedan that blows the doors off traditional sports cars. That’s Pierre’s appeal on top of a squeaky clean image. No scandals, no Blackface, no ethics issues.

 
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Pierre doesnt seem to be a really good option for Canadians in my opinion. He just strikes me as the loudest voice in the room trying one up the other guy. You know like that guy in the lunchroom at work who wont shut up.

What are his policies on housing, our money supply/inflation, immigration, our taxes, Ukraine, Tiawan, etc....

Working Canadians dont have a party to represent them. The NDP, lol, Jagmeets watch is worth more than most peoples cars and that party has always been tax, tax, tax.....

Someone enlighten me on why pierre is being championed?
He is a good pit bull in question period therefore has a certain amount of notoriety that is popular within the party . Will that make him a good leader , who knows . He is a clean cut family man with a clean image and is an effective speaker , is that enough to capture the leadership and after the votes of Canadians ? Who knows ? I still think they should go with Ms.Lewis .
 
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He is a good pit bull in question period therefore has a certain amount of notoriety that is popular within the party . Will that make him a good leader , who knows . He is a clean cut family man with a clean image and is an effective speaker , is that enough to capture the leadership and after the votes of Canadians ? Who knows ? I still think they should go with Ms.Lewis .
Ya, I don't know much about Pierre but he certainly asks the right questions in question period. But is he strong enough to stay the course? Will he be another O'Toole where he says one thing but does another? Has he the integrity and the grit? It seems like he'd be a good bet but what do we really know about him? Will he cave at the first obstacle? Will he try to placate the MSM? They don't love conservatives no matter what they do so he should avoid them (or at least the CBC) and use independent media instead. We need someone who doesn't give a crap what anyone thinks and will do what is best for everyone.

It's gotten to the point where I don't know who we can trust to lead us anymore. Trudeau is a complete idiot and looking at who could possibly replace him is just as agonizing as looking at who the Conservatives could possibly elect. It's rather demoralizing and depressing. But I suppose we'll have to wait and see what happens.
 

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Oh I found this and I think in today's world, it holds true.

Liberal Tenants

Use

Abuse

Discard

Conservative Tenants

Head

Heart

Hands

Home

 

mentalfloss

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Yeah, look at us, changing absolutely nothing whatsoever, while we clog up essential transport lanes cause F*CK politician me no like.
 

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Four Conservative MPs want Jean Charest to enter leadership race
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Former Quebec Premier Jean Charest speaks on energy and resources to a luncheon gathering of the Chamber of Commerce in Winnipeg, March 4, 2015.
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MONTREAL — Four Conservative members of Parliament say they want former Quebec premier Jean Charest to enter the race for the party’s leadership.

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In an open letter published Tuesday, the MPs say Charest is the best person to defeat the Liberals and lead the relaunch of Canada’s economy.

Charest, 63, became leader of the Progressive Conservative Party in 1993, after he was one of two MPs from that party elected while former prime minister Kim Campbell was dealt a humiliating electoral defeat. Charest left federal politics in 1993 and became leader of Quebec Liberal Party.

Charest was premier of Quebec from 2003 to 2012, when his party was defeated in an early election he called following massive student protests.

Since leaving politics, Charest has practised law, and has also been the subject of a multi-year investigation by Quebec’s anti-corruption police related to financing of the Quebec Liberal Party.

Pierre Poilievre, an Ottawa-area member of Parliament, is the only confirmed candidate in the race for the Conservative leadership

The letter was signed by Quebec MPs Alain Rayes and Dominique Vien; Nova Scotia MP Rick Perkins; Ontario MP John Nater; New Brunswick Senator Percy Mockler; former MP David Sweet; Louis Leger, chief of staff to the premier of New Brunswick; and Leo Power, a former director of the Conservative Party’s fundraising arm.
 

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Conservatives to choose new leader Sept. 10
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Former Quebec premier Jean Charest is pictured in a file photo.
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OTTAWA — The Conservative Party of Canada will wait until Sept. 10 to pick a new leader, providing more time for prospective candidates to mount their campaigns, including former Quebec premier Jean Charest.

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Charest met with about 40 MPs and senators Wednesday evening before the rules of the contest were announced several hours later. He said he was waiting to see the rules before making a decision.

“You’ll remember that two years ago I came to the conclusion that the campaign would not have been viable because there wasn’t enough time for me to go out there to introduce myself to the membership and to recruit new members, so that’ll be part of what we’ll be looking for is are the rules viable,” he said.

“Do they allow us to do a real campaign and get ourselves known.”

Among the decisions Conservatives on the committee had to make was opting for a shorter contest or a longer one — a decision many said would determine how many candidates would decide to enter the race, such as those not currently serving as MPs and who may run on single issues.

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So far, the only candidate that has declared himself to be running is Pierre Poilievre, a well-known Ottawa-area MP with a reputation for fiery performances in Parliament.

As Charest met behind closed doors and fielded questions from curious MPs Wednesday evening, Conservatives got a taste of what a race with Poilievre may look like.

Shannon Stubbs, a Poilievre supporter, tweeted out an image of Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Charest, attacking him for supporting carbon pricing and the long-gun registry.

“I’m with grassroots Conservative Party members. Our leader must share our values, and respect our policies. I’m against the carbon tax, the long-gun registry, and for tax cuts, not tax takes,” she wrote.

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Charest, a former leader of the Quebec Liberal and federal Progressive Conservative parties, didn’t respond when asked about him being attacked as a Liberal. Caucus members who attended brushed it off as political gamesmanship.

Gerard Deltell, a prominent Quebec MP who is backing a Charest run, said he believes it’s better to stick to speaking positively about your own candidate.

The party says candidates will have until April 19 to throw their hats into the ring.

The entry fee will be $200,000, on top of a $100,000 deposit to ensure they comply with the rules, which will be refunded after the contest is over.

That is the same amount of money needed to enter the last leadership race in 2020, which saw Erin O’Toole take the helm of the party.

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Membership applications must be in by June 3 and ballots will begin going out to Conservative party members.

Among the people who came to hear Charest speak Wednesday were some from Saskatchewan and Alberta, provinces home to the party’s staunchly conservative base.

Saskatoon MP Kevin Waugh acknowledged that as a former premier of Quebec, it would be tough for Charest to run in his province.

Others who attended included some of the party’s newest members sent to Ottawa in last September’s federal election.

“Mr. Charest is very, very inspirational and quite honestly, I think that’s what the country needs right now,” said Nova Scotia’s Dr. Stephen Ellis.

“There are people that have an ‘it’ factor and there are people who don’t — and he has an ‘it’ factor.”

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Earlier that day, Conservative MP and former leadership contender Michael Chong said that he hasn’t ruled out another potential run for the job.

In 2017, he placed fifth in the crowded race to replace former Conservative leader and prime minister Stephen Harper, in which Andrew Scheer was ultimately elected.

Chong told reporters his first priority now is his foreign affairs critic role, which he holds as Canada and other world powers respond to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The second focus, he said, is “thinking about, in the coming weeks, what I can do to help my party and my country.”

As Conservatives wait to find out their options for party leader, many of their 119 MPs have already thrown their support behind Poilievre.

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Others considering running include Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown, who formerly led Ontario’s Progressive Conservatives, and Leslyn Lewis, the Ontario MP who placed third behind former leader Erin O’Toole in the 2020 contest, thanks to considerable backing from social conservatives and members from Western Canada.

The lack of official party rules until late Wednesday hasn’t stopped different camps of Conservatives from coalescing around prospective candidates and Poilievre from kicking off his fundraising.

He’s also been hitting the road. He attended an event in Montreal earlier in the week and on Friday plans to hold a rally in Regina.
 

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LILLEY: Conservative leadership race goes from expected coronation to exciting contest
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Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre speaks during a news conference Monday, Nov. 16, 2020.
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As Jean Charest was meeting with Conservative MPs at a downtown Ottawa hotel on Wednesday, Pierre Poilievre was jetting across the country to meet with members and organizers in Saskatoon. The Conservative leadership race is turning into a showdown between these two men but with the rules now released, expect more candidates.

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The next leader of the Conservative Party will be announced on Sept. 10, just nine days before MPs return to the Commons for the fall session. Anyone wanting to run will need to register by April 19 while anyone wishing to vote will need to be a party member by June 3.

The extended timeline has people like Peter MacKay weighing his options, a decision is expected soon from the co-founder of the Conservative Party. MacKay, who took 49% of the vote in the last leadership contest, would become an instant front runner if he enters the race.

As of late Thursday he was consulting with advisors, including his wife and young children, on whether to re-enter public life.

MP Michael Chong is considering a run, as is former Conservative MP Leona Alleslev. On the social conservative side Leslyn Lewis is assembling a team while serious socon backers are considering putting support behind former candidate Joel Etienne.

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Brampton Mayor Patrick Brown is leaning towards entering with a campaign focused on targeting Quebec’s bigoted Bill 21 and political commentator Tasha Kheiriddin is testing the waters with early fundraising.

Poilievre, though, is already off and running. Supporters forked out $1,600 a head to attend a fundraiser on Thursday. He’s also making policy announcements, like pledging to kill the carbon tax, and has assembled a strong list of endorsements from sitting MPs.

“I want to give Canadians back control of their lives,” Poilievre told me Thursday when asked why he’s running.

He pointed to the rising cost of living, the housing affordability crisis for families and two years of COVID restrictions as examples where Canadians are losing control in their own lives.

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Poilievre’s plan is to try and make his accession to the top of the party seem inevitable. Charest’s plan is to make sure people see him as an alternative.

Charest still hasn’t officially said he’s in the race but with the rules being favourable to him, expect an announcement within days. He has a team in place raising funds, arranging meetings and trying to convince all the right people that he’s not yesterday’s man.

What’s fascinating about Charest’s reentry into Conservative politics is that his two champions inside the Conservative caucus are former political adversaries from provincial politics. Alain Rayes was a candidate for the ADQ party in Quebec and Gerard Deltell was the party’s one-time leader.

Both have come out in favour of Charest.

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“I know him quite well and I know that this is someone who can rally people in our party and rally new people to our party,” Deltell said. “I hope people will pay attention to him and what he has to offer.”

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Deltell is quite the fiscal hawk within the Conservative caucus and not from the Red Tory tradition which makes his endorsement of Charest more interesting. One prominent Conservative told me they have received calls asking about Charest from across the country and from people who also aren’t Red Tories.

Brampton mayor Patrick Brown poses for a photo at a backyard ice rink in Brampton on Saturday, Jan. 8, 2022. ERNEST DOROSZUK/TORONTO SUN FILES
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Brown could become the great unknown in this race.

Brown is known as a skilled organizer who can sell memberships and stand-up a campaign quickly. If Brown enters as expected and comes out against Quebec’s Bill 21 — a law against wearing religious symbols while working in the public service. The stance would cause problems for his chances in Quebec but could be wildly popular in places like Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver. It would also put other candidates on the spot.

What was looking like a coronation for Poilievre is turning into a dynamic and fascinating race for the Conservative leadership.
 

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“I want to give Canadians back control of their lives,” Poilievre told me Thursday when asked why he’s running.

Unless he can somehow control Covid, that statement is full of shit and he's pandering to the 'base'.
 

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“I want to give Canadians back control of their lives,” Poilievre told me Thursday when asked why he’s running.

Unless he can somehow control Covid, that statement is full of shit and he's pandering to the 'base'.
Haven't you heard, Covid is over.....at least us people not afraid of our own shadows have learned to live with it.
 

Serryah

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Haven't you heard, Covid is over.....at least us people not afraid of our own shadows have learned to live with it.

Haha, "us people".

Yes, we all have to learn to live with it. But considering that variants can keep popping up, again, unless he can control Covid, the 'control' won't last long. Especially when dumfucks think that no vaccine is awesome.