Conservative party cuts profits for barley farmers

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Chuck Strahl the agriculture minister of Canada stood up in Question Period in the House of Commons and proudly the other day and announced that the barley growers have voted to sell their own products to the processors rather than deal with the Canadian Wheat Board.

The government will abandon the barley farmers this August.

The barley processors are happy because the Conservative party put more money into their pockets by cutting money that farmers will get for their crops.

The Conservatives do not understand the concept of divide and conquer because the processors will be able to dictate on what they are willing to pay as opposed to being forced to pay the going rate by the Canadian Wheat Board.

The consumers will not benefit by the lower barley prices because the processors will pocket the difference or pay bigger dividends to their shareholders.

The only losers are the farmers.

Thanks to the Conservatives more family farms will go out of business.
 

china

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Conservative party put more money into their pockets by cutting money that farmers will get for their crops.


How do they do that .....explain ..... " putting money into their pockets".
 

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Its basic economics. Monopolists have the price advantage.

Ask yourself who's going to get the better price...

A One wholesaler selling 20,000 widgits to a dozen retailers from a single store.

B 20,000 manufacturers selling one widget each to the same number of retailers.

Assume the retailers require roughly the same number of widgets out of each situation and be mindful the retailers would prefer adjusting to a shortage by laying off workers to risking a surplus at the end of the day but can profit from the outcome either way.
 

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The barley processors do not have to pay the Canadian Wheat Board rate.

The farmers will sell at what they can get which means driving the price down which means the processors will make more money when they sell their finished products.

 

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Those idiots have no idea what they're asking for. They think resellers are going to start coming out of the woodwork scrambling for their product. It plain old doesn't work that way. In the US in 1992 97% of the malt market was controlled by 8 companies. 65% by 4 companies. In 2002 the four-firm concentration ratio for grain handling facilities was 60%. Granted demand for barley is in for a short spike but I don't think Cargill will be able to drink enough beer at the celebrations to keep it at the higher level very long. wouldn't blame them for trying, though.

Barley farmers have gone from being part of a monopoly that turned profits over to them to selling to an oligarchy that will squeeze every nickel of profit they can out of them once the market penetration and growth are no longer the priority. If I were a greedy old fart planning on getting out of the business in 4 or 5 years anyways I'd have voted to kill the single desk too since profit will not be a priority while the resellers are competing for position. Once that's over with though, they'll find out exactly how much "freedom of choice" has cost them.

In both Saskatchewan and Manitoba the majority of farmers voted to retain the single desk but the overall result came out in favour of Strahl's agenda so away we go. The opposition is rushing to defend them but you check the ridings and they're all Conservative. They got what they voted for. I have no sympathy for them. I expect nothing less than the full privatization of Wheat Board barley enterprises. Not out the Conservatives, though. The little fascist pricks haven't said word one about cutting off the Treasury Board gravy train.
 

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Its basic economics. Monopolists have the price advantage.

It's not the economics , it's your basic inability to comprehand the question.
 

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BitWhys ,<br>you need pictures?___________________________________________<br><br>I smell your bs all te way here in China , what do I need your pictures for .<br><br>
 

BitWhys

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BitWhys ,<br>you need pictures?___________________________________________<br><br>I smell your bs all te way here in China , what do I need your pictures for .<br><br>

that certainly answers that question. that's too bad because I haven't got any.

you do at least understand that when members of an oligarchy recieve goods at reduced prices they're under significantly less pressure to pass the savings on to consumers of their product than in an fully competitive market. yes?
 

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BitWhys<br>a birdie told me____________________________________________<br><br>you mean the one on the payroll ,the secret liberal advisor ,right?<br>
 

china

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Mister , my original question was and still is


How do the Conservatives put the money into their pockets"?...perhaps you ought to give your little birdie a tune up .
 

BitWhys

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yeah

that's right

the Winnipeg Free Press is a secret Liberal advisor. check the numbers at the bottom and you'll find that in both provinces the single desk was the preferred option. if you want to make an issue about my use of the word "majority" in a three question plebicite go right ahead. it just demonstrates you're not capable of getting the point.
 

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BitWhys
If you want to make an issue about my use of the word "majority" in a three question plebicite go right ahead. it just demonstrates you're not capable of getting the point.


Don't tell me , the little birdie spoke to you again ,he . The little birdie has a big imagination.
 

BitWhys

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Mister , my original question was and still is


How do the Conservatives put the money into their pockets"?...perhaps you ought to give your little birdie a tune up .

so you don't understand the pricing mechanisms of oligarchies, either.

heh

and you still have the nerve to pester me like a little Harpercrat sleezebag. goes a long way to explaining how the Conservatives antics have managed to capture the "stupid" vote.
 

BitWhys

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BitWhys
If you want to make an issue about my use of the word "majority" in a three question plebicite go right ahead. it just demonstrates you're not capable of getting the point.


Don't tell me , the little birdie spoke to you again ,he . The little birdie has a big imagination.

stop being so ignorant and follow the link.
 

china

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Mister , my original question was and still is
How do the Conservatives put the money into their pockets"? That was and is my original question . If you can't answer this simple question ,no problem . Perhaps someone else will.
 

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Mister , my original question was and still is
How do the Conservatives put the money into their pockets"? That was and is my original question . If you can't answer this simple question ,no problem . Perhaps someone else will.

tell me you aren't being so juvenile as to question the actual use of a common figure of speech
 

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BitWhys
tell me you aren't being so juvenile as to question the actual use of a common figure of speech__________________________

I,m reading one written by a juvenile ,nothing to question its like a black on white ...you dig ... fruitcake ??
 
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