Complaints pile up after Rod Liddle's appearance on Newsnight

[Blackleaf]

The complaints are piling up at the BBC after my Newsnight appearance


Rod Liddle
16 July 2019
The Spectator

For those of you who were not watching, if you have the time, take a look at the interview I did on Newsnight with Emily Maitlis about my book. And tell me if you think that it was an even-handed, unbiased, rational discussion. The complaints are piling up at the BBC: here’s one from a remainer:

Dear sir or madam,

I am writing in relation to Emily Maitlis’s interview with Rod Liddle on Newsnight yesterday. I have the highest regard for the BBC: over many years, I have relied on the organisation to provide impartial reporting and comment on a wide range of issues. Moreover, I am well aware of the challenges the organisation faces in providing such reporting and comment, particularly in recent years.

However, I found Emily Maitlis’s interview of Rod Liddle to be sneering and bullying in tone – something I do not expect of the BBC. My broader concern is that the tone of the interview accurately reflects the way in which the BBC, as an organisation, views the many millions of British people who voted for Britain to leave the European Union in 2016. (I should point out that, if I had had a vote in the 2016 referendum, I would have voted remain; indeed, had I been living in the UK, I would have actively campaigned for remain.) I intend not to watch Newsnight in future.

Yours faithfully,

Seán O’Keeffe

Spectator.co.uk

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Uh-oh. Blackshirt got his feels hurt.

Take it to the ECHR. While you still can.

 

[Blackleaf]

Uh-oh. Blackshirt got his feels hurt.
Take it to the ECHR. While you still can.

Britain should be cutting all ties wth the ECHR after independence. It's an awful organisation that should have no power over Great Britain.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Britain should be cutting all ties wth the ECHR after independence. It's an awful organisation that should have no power over Great Britain.

I agree. Human rights have no place in British history or traditions.

 

[Blackleaf]

I agree. Human rights have no place in British history or traditions.

They do, but Britain is more concerned with the human rights of the victims, not the criminals.

I know that may sound rather odd to someone like you.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

They do, but Britain is more concerned with the human rights of the victims, not the criminals.
I know that may sound rather odd to someone like you.

The people accused of being criminals, you mean. Though I understand that a Brit wouldn't be familiar with the difference.

I'm also amused to hear a Brit implying an American is soft on crime. Our punishments are far harsher than yours. At least now in the 21st century. I'm aware you mostly live in the 18th.

 

[Danbones]

Yeah we saw how the US justice system treated Epstien.

 

[Blackleaf]

The people accused of being criminals, you mean. Though I understand that a Brit wouldn't be familiar with the difference.
I'm also amused to hear a Brit implying an American is soft on crime. Our punishments are far harsher than yours. At least now in the 21st century. I'm aware you mostly live in the 18th.

It seems as though you are as ignorant about the criminals' friend the ECHR as you are about the anti-democratic EU.

And remember, America is a member of neither. That must mean you are a Third World country unconcerned about human rights.

Don't you ever stop to consider how hypocritical it is of you to complain about Britain leaving both organisations when your country isn't a member of either?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It seems as though you are as ignorant about the criminals' friend the ECHR as you are about the anti-democratic EU.
And remember, America is a member of neither. That must mean you are a Third World country unconcerned about human rights.
Don't you ever stop to consider how hypocritical it is of you to complain about Britain leaving both organisations when your country isn't a member of either?

I'm not complaining, ferfoxsake! How many times do I have to tell you I fully support Brexit, the harder the better?

I don't like Britain. I wish it ill, and I'm confident that Brexit will be bad for Britain. Therefore, I support Brexit.

That you're too effing stupid to get that through your thick, alcohol-sodden skull is just one of the reasons I despise Britain, and once again, support Brexit BECAUSE I am convinced it will leave you worse off.

As far as complaining goes, the entire fracking board doesn't bitch, on all subjects put together, 1/10 as much as you whimper and pout about the fact that half of Britain disagrees with you. Tough shit.

What a snowflake! White and fragile.

 

[Blackleaf]

I'm not complaining, ferfoxsake! How many times do I have to tell you I fully support Brexit, the harder the better?
I don't like Britain. I wish it ill, and I'm confident that Brexit will be bad for Britain. Therefore, I support Brexit.
That you're too effing stupid to get that through your thick, alcohol-sodden skull is just one of the reasons I despise Britain, and once again, support Brexit BECAUSE I am convinced it will leave you worse off.
As far as complaining goes, the entire fracking board doesn't bitch, on all subjects put together, 1/10 as much as you whimper and pout about the fact that half of Britain disagrees with you. Tough shit.
What a snowflake! White and fragile.

Oh, alright then.

How awful it must be living in your country. It's not a part of the EU and it's not under the sway of the ECHR.

What's it like living in a Third World country with no human rights?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Oh, alright then.
How awful it must be living in your country. It's not a part of the EU and it's not under the sway of the ECHR.
What's it like living in a Third World country with no human rights?

You'll know soon enough.

 

[Blackleaf]

The

You'll know soon enough.

It seems so, doesn't it?

According to you, any country which isn't a member of the ECHR - which is the vast majority of countries, including the USA and Canada - has no human rights because no country is capable of producing human rights without the ECHR. So USA and Canada, and other countries like Australia and New Zealand, are horrific places where nobody is afforded human rights.

It also seems to be the case that no human rights existed in Britain prior to Britain's joining of the ECHR in 1950s.

Either all the above is true, or you hadn't really thought out your pathetic argument for Britain to be in the ECHR in the first place, and that Britain really has no need to be a member of an organisation which prevents it deporting foreign criminals.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The
It seems so, doesn't it?
According to you, any country which isn't a member of the ECHR - which is the vast majority of countries, including the USA and Canada - has no human rights because no country is capable of producing human rights without the ECHR. So USA and Canada, and other countries like Australia and New Zealand, are horrific places where nobody is afforded human rights.

Of course, I said no such thing, but you make up whatever stupid shit supports your alleged argument because you ain't real bright and what few brains you have are pickled in alcohol. Thus, as a garden-variety lager lout, you let mindless belligerence stand in for facts and reasoning, and trot out the whole list of logical fallacies in an attempt to "win."

It also seems to be the case that no human rights existed in Britain prior to Britain's joining of the ECHR in 1950s.
Either all the above is true, or you hadn't really thought out your pathetic argument for Britain to be in the ECHR in the first place, and that Britain really has no need to be a member of an organisation which prevents it deporting foreign criminals.

Or you're a borderline-retarded lager lout who has no grasp of the concepts you're spouting.

 

[Blackleaf]

Of course, I said no such thing, but you make up whatever stupid shit supports your alleged argument because you ain't real bright and what few brains you have are pickled in alcohol. Thus, as a garden-variety lager lout, you let mindless belligerence stand in for facts and reasoning, and trot out the whole list of logical fallacies in an attempt to "win."
Or you're a borderline-retarded lager lout who has no grasp of the concepts you're spouting.

My belief is you have attempted to take on the might of Blackleaf - like some unfortunate team having to face the newly-crowned World Champions that are the England & Wales cricket team - and lost.

Your posts displayed no signs of intelligence and no good reason why Britain should stay part of the ECHR.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

My belief is you have attempted to take on the might of Blackleaf - like some unfortunate team having to face the newly-crowned World Champions that are the England & Wales cricket team - and lost.

Or perhaps like the newly-crowned World Cup Champions that is the England team, having won every World Cup ever played.

Your posts displayed no signs of intelligence and no good reason why Britain should stay part of the ECHR.

That might be because the whole notion that I think Britain should stay part of the ECHR is a fantasy you cooked up in your own head. I never, ever, at any point, said Britain should stay in the ECHR. I'm quite sure of that, because I don't think it should. The notion of human rights is completely antithetical to everything about British history, culture, law, and psychology. It's like a pig in trousers in more ways than just this.

 

[Blackleaf]

Or perhaps like the newly-crowned World Cup Champions that is the England team, having won every World Cup ever played.
That might be because the whole notion that I think Britain should stay part of the ECHR is a fantasy you cooked up in your own head. I never, ever, at any point, said Britain should stay in the ECHR. I'm quite sure of that, because I don't think it should. The notion of human rights is completely antithetical to everything about British history, culture, law, and psychology. It's like a pig in trousers in more ways than just this.

This is what you said:

I agree. Human rights have no place in British history or traditions.

Which makes what I've said entirely accurate.

You're talking bollocks, basically. The USA isn't a member of the ECHR. Nor is Canada. According to you, neither country has human rights, because they aren't a member of the ECHR.

So let's just leave it at that.

That's what I ****ing hate about you foreign anti-Brexit, pro-EU types. Completely ignorant as to the reality and workings of the EU and its institutions.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

This is what you said:
Which makes what I've said entirely accurate.
You're talking bollocks, basically. The USA isn't a member of the ECHR. Nor is Canada. According to you, neither country has human rights, because they aren't a member of the ECHR.
So let's just leave it at that.
That's what I ****ing hate about you foreign anti-Brexit, pro-EU types. Completely ignorant as to the reality and workings of the EU and its institutions.

Ah, I see the problem now. You thought I was saying that having human rights is impossible if a country is not in the ECHR.

Silly lager lout.

Stupid, sodden, drooling imbecile, I was saying that being out of the ECHR will free Britain to do what the Brexiteers want it to do, which inter alia means having no concept of human rights in your law.

You could have human rights in your law without the ECHR, except that as I pointed out, the entire concept is utterly alien to British history, culture, law, and psychology. One must therefore presume you will reject any notion of human rights as soon as you're out from under the ECHR.

Clearly, shifting boxes is about the limit of your intellect, so it's good to know you've reached your maximum potential.

 

[Blackleaf]

Ah, I see the problem now. You thought I was saying that having human rights is impossible if a country is not in the ECHR.
Silly lager lout.
Stupid, sodden, drooling imbecile, I was saying that being out of the ECHR will free Britain to do what the Brexiteers want it to do, which inter alia means having no concept of human rights in your law.
You could have human rights in your law without the ECHR, except that as I pointed out, the entire concept is utterly alien to British history, culture, law, and psychology. One must therefore presume you will reject any notion of human rights as soon as you're out from under the ECHR.
Clearly, shifting boxes is about the limit of your intellect, so it's good to know you've reached your maximum potential.

Just as I thought. And you've proved me right - you think that the land of Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights has no concept of human rights beyond those drawn up by foreign lawyers in the last few decades which are merely the human rights of Bulgarian child buggerers, Romanian pickpockets and Somali illegals mowing down children whilst drink driving.

You seem to almost have the intellectual capacity of a flagstone.

The ECHR should have no place in Great Britain.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Just as I thought. And you've proved me right - you think that the land of Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights has no concept of human rights beyond those drawn up by foreign lawyers in the last few decades which are merely the human rights of Bulgarian child buggerers, Romanian pickpockets and Somali illegals mowing down children whilst drink driving.
You seem to almost have the intellectual capacity of a flagstone.
The ECHR should have no place in Great Britain.

Correct. Your entire culture is based on different rights for different groups. The single best example of this is all the people born in your culture who have different rights depending on which vagina they fell out of, and in what order.

I realize you don't understand this, but the concept of human rights is that they are for everyone. Your entire history of rights has been limiting the groups to which they applied.

 

[Blackleaf]

Correct. Your entire culture is based on different rights for different groups. The single best example of this is all the people born in your culture who have different rights depending on which vagina they fell out of, and in what order.
I realize you don't understand this, but the concept of human rights is that they are for everyone. Your entire history of rights has been limiting the groups to which they applied.

The culture which abolished slavery 60 years before the USA did.

The culture which abolished absolute monarchy centuries before any other European nation.

The culture which is the world's oldest democracy.

The culture which gave the world Magna Carta - the cornerstone of the USA's hugely flawed constitution - and the Bill of Rights.

Yeah. How can such a culture get by without Froggie and Kraut judges in Strasbourg?

If anything, France, Germany and the rest of the EU should be taught about human rights issues by the British.