Canadians Moving to the US

bluealberta

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bluealberta said:
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bluealberta said:
Gee, ITN, is there anything MORE important that cheap and good beer? :? :roll:

I was never much of beer drinker, although I enjoy a Sam Adams or a Molson on occassion.

You don't know what you are missing, you need to have more than an occasional beer.

Nah. Maybe some red wine with dinner here and there also.

But there is nothing better than a medium rare barbequed Alberta steak and an ice cold beer. ( or two or three or......)
 

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bluealberta said:
I think not said:
bluealberta said:
I think not said:
bluealberta said:
Gee, ITN, is there anything MORE important that cheap and good beer? :? :roll:

I was never much of beer drinker, although I enjoy a Sam Adams or a Molson on occassion.

You don't know what you are missing, you need to have more than an occasional beer.

Nah. Maybe some red wine with dinner here and there also.

But there is nothing better than a medium rare barbequed Alberta steak and an ice cold beer. ( or two or three or......)

Well I've had a nice steak in Alberta with a tall glass of ....... water :oops:

And if you ever make it this way, MAYBE, we'll go drinking :p
 

bluealberta

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bluealberta said:
I think not said:
bluealberta said:
I think not said:
bluealberta said:
Gee, ITN, is there anything MORE important that cheap and good beer? :? :roll:

I was never much of beer drinker, although I enjoy a Sam Adams or a Molson on occassion.

You don't know what you are missing, you need to have more than an occasional beer.

Nah. Maybe some red wine with dinner here and there also.

But there is nothing better than a medium rare barbequed Alberta steak and an ice cold beer. ( or two or three or......)

Well I've had a nice steak in Alberta with a tall glass of ....... water :oops:

And if you ever make it this way, MAYBE, we'll go drinking :p

I'll tell you what, next time you come to Alberta, you let me know, and we'll do it. Of course, if you are on your way to BC, you may never want to get there after being in Alberta :wink: and after an Alberta BBQ you may never GET there, but hey, take your chances. You wil either never forget it, or never remember it, but either way, you will have had a great time :wink: 8)
 

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bluealberta said:
I'll tell you what, next time you come to Alberta, you let me know, and we'll do it. Of course, if you are on your way to BC, you may never want to get there after being in Alberta :wink: and after an Alberta BBQ you may never GET there, but hey, take your chances. You wil either never forget it, or never remember it, but either way, you will have had a great time :wink: 8)

It's a deal. Maybe I'll stop by Winnipeg and have a beer with Rev :p
 

bluealberta

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bluealberta said:
I'll tell you what, next time you come to Alberta, you let me know, and we'll do it. Of course, if you are on your way to BC, you may never want to get there after being in Alberta :wink: and after an Alberta BBQ you may never GET there, but hey, take your chances. You wil either never forget it, or never remember it, but either way, you will have had a great time :wink: 8)

It's a deal. Maybe I'll stop by Winnipeg and have a beer with Rev :p

Well that will certainly make you appreciate Alberta that much more. 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Canadians Moving to t

There's nothing wrong with Great Western. They sell a fair bit of it all over Saskatchewan and more than a bit here. I hear they are coming out with a Pilsner now too.
 

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Reverend Blair said:
There's nothing wrong with Great Western. They sell a fair bit of it all over Saskatchewan and more than a bit here. I hear they are coming out with a Pilsner now too.

I used to sell beer in Saskatchewan. When it first came out in 1989 or 1990 or whenever, they sold so much of it that they ran out of product. For a few months in the Spring after they launched, they had a 40% share in Saskatoon. But within a couple of years, market share had fallen to 5-6%, and 3% in Regina. Now that was a long time ago and I don't know what their share is now so maybe they're doing better.

I never really liked it. It had a funny, distinctive almost like a sour fruity taste for all its products. I don't think its any worse than Molson or Labbats. But admitedly, I'm a beer snob. I like Big Rock, Shaftesbury, Creemore Springs, etc.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Canadians Moving to t

I dunno. I bought a couple dozen last weekend and it tasted fine to me. I'm not a beer snob, but I do know my beer. I suspect that they will sell a lot of their Pilsner too...Pilsner has always had a following in Saskatchewan.

Were you buying it in those plastic bottles, No 1? There is something about a plastic bottle that just destroys the flavour of a beer. To make things worse, once it gets on the shelves the light can get at it. Sunlight and beer don't mix.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Canadians Moving to t

I've never been much of one for whiskey. The occaisional glass of rye, maybe...but the bottle under the sink has been aging there for almost two years.
 

Nascar_James

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HTO said:
Canada's economy is doing better than the United States, we have longer life expectancy (thanks to national health care), our medicine is cheaper, and in addition to that, we value different cultures.

Sorry, don't know why anyone would want to leave that for the USA.

Better economy than the US??? Last I looked the unemployemnt rate in Canada was higher than it is here in the US. Also, taxes are way lower in the US than Canada. Sorry, this does not constitute a better economy for Canada.

Yes, I am a Canadian living in the southern US. with the lower taxes and good ol' conservative and traditional lifestyle. Also, we still have folks here in the US who attend church!
 

Nascar_James

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Re: RE: Canadians Moving to the US

HTO said:
Canada's economy is doing better than the United States, we have longer life expectancy (thanks to national health care), our medicine is cheaper, and in addition to that, we value different cultures.

Sorry, don't know why anyone would want to leave that for the USA.

Better economy than the US??? Last I looked the unemployemnt rate in Canada was higher than it is here in the US. Also, taxes are way lower in the US than Canada. Sorry, this does not constitute a better economy for Canada.

Yes, I am a Canadian living in the southern US. with the lower taxes and good ol' conservative and traditional lifestyle. Also, we still have folks here in the US who attend church!
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Canadians Moving to t

Yes, better economy than the US. George Bush presided over a net loss in jobs in his first term...the first president to manage that since the Depression. At the same time, many of the jobs that have been created are low-wage, low-benefit jobs.
 

Nascar_James

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Lets not forget your much closer to becoming a POLICE STATE :roll:

Police state? Canada is indeed a police state, where only police officers can carry guns.

While in Montreal, I had to call the provincial police everytime I went to the shooting range. I had to follow a specific route. It was ridiculous!!!

However, while I lived in Arizona, I was free to carry my 9mm (glock 19) holstered of course on all my trips to the shooting range. I had to make no calls to any police and did not even have to have a gun license nor register my firearm. I was not a criminal, so I was legally allowed to carry a firearm.
 

Toro

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Re: RE: Canadians Moving to t

Reverend Blair said:
Yes, better economy than the US. George Bush presided over a net loss in jobs in his first term...the first president to manage that since the Depression. At the same time, many of the jobs that have been created are low-wage, low-benefit jobs.

Oh really?

2001-2003 OECD GDP growth based on purchasing power parity

US 12.15%
Canada 12.06%

http://www.oecd.org/document/28/0,2340,en_2825_495684_2750044_1_1_1_1,00.html

2004 OECD numbers will be updated soon.

Growth in the US was 4.4% in 2004 and 3.5% in the first quarter of 2005.

http://www.bea.doc.gov/bea/dn/home/gdp.htm


Growth in Canada was 3.3% in 2004 and 2.3% in the first quarter of 2005.

http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/050531/d050531a.htm
 

Reverend Blair

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And who has the better economy? Our dollar has been rising, yours has been dropping. You've been building up a massive debt by running massive deficits while we've been paying our debt off. You've got a trade deficit that leaves others as much in charge of your economy as your government is. We run a trade surplus.
 

Toro

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Reverend Blair said:
And who has the better economy? Our dollar has been rising, yours has been dropping. You've been building up a massive debt by running massive deficits while we've been paying our debt off. You've got a trade deficit that leaves others as much in charge of your economy as your government is. We run a trade surplus.

My answer is it depends on what time frame you look at. Over the short and maybe intermediate term, I think the Canadian economy is going to be stronger. In the long-run, the US will be better.

You raise some interesting points.

The dollar - The true value of the dollar is somewhere between 75-80 cents. It was when it went to 62 cents and it will be when it gets to 90 cents. Part of the reason why I think it could go higher is because of

The debt - Fiscal debt has been rising in the US and falling in Canada. This means that, everything else being equal, the loonie should rise. But this debate is a little disingenuous because what matters is not the total amount of debt but the ratio of debt to GDP. According to the OECD (I don't feel like hunting for it so go to their web sit, its there), debt/GDP in the US was 64% and 66% in Canada at the end of 2004. Now those will pass either this year or next. But in 1996, the figures were something like 50% for the US and 100% for Canada. Canada really had no choice. Now full credit to Canada, but it has to be put into perspective. The US ranks 13th out of 27th in terms of indebtedness in the OECD. Japan is first at 150% and Italy second at 120%.

Trade deficits - Just reported Friday for May at $58 billion. The fiscal deficit will come in at 3.5% this year. (Same as Germany, France and Italy.) The trade deficit will come in at 6%. Either of them by themselves isn't a problem but together it is. This scares the crap out of me. Having said that, Canada has run a trade surplus for decades with the US. Trade surpluses can also mean a weak economy because it may be symptomatic of weak domestic demand like it is in Germany and Japan.

My own belief is that there are too many imbalances and too much money creating asset bubbles in the world. Much but not all of the fault can be laid at the feet of the US Federal Reserve and the US government. But if the US contracts, so will Canada.