Canadians less likely to pirate software

Elder

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I live in between to lovely halfway houses for criminals who are paroled. Quite often these men and their girlfriends have offered me free pirated dvds when I am working in the garden because they deem me to be a nice older lady because I say "hello" and treat them like everyone else. I have not accepted any of these free gifts because they are pirated and to me this is theft. Since I do not steal I cannot benefit from the criminal acts of others. I do not give lectures, however, I do explain why I would prefer to go to the theatre or purchase the legal DVD. They think I am funny but my honesty is the reason why I work freely and happily in my flower garden and they are in the criminal justice system. These guys just cannot seem understand this distinction. Many of them will continue to commit crimes and return again and again to prison until they change or die. Piracy is a crime and I will have naught to do with it. Husband agrees.
 

wulfie68

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I know there are people that do it, but I am absolutely paranoid about pirated software carrying viruses. As for movies, its not worth the time and effort to me. The only thing I can see people doing much (which we always have done) is illegally copying songs, and unless you own the CD and pass it around, there are limits on what you can share with i-tunes...
 

cranky

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most - not all - of the music that i download are music that i have bought on vinyl, 8track, or cassette....and now even CDs since I don't keep my CDs anymore.

I know I am technically wrong, but I see no problem with downloading a song that I have already paid for at some point in my past.

I haven't pirated software in a long time. I used to pirate MS Office, but now I've been using OpenOffice since 2001.

I used to pirate my OS, but now I replace my electronics faster than the OS requires upgrading.
 

YukonJack

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Elder, will you post a new thread about parolees whom you see once and never again? Will you post another thread about parolees who paid their debt to society and after their mistake and serving the time for it, are just as honest and righteous as you?

Do you believe in redemption?
 

Elder

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Elder, will you post a new thread about parolees whom you see once and never again? Will you post another thread about parolees who paid their debt to society and after their mistake and serving the time for it, are just as honest and righteous as you?

Do you believe in redemption?

Hi YukonJack,
I do not understnd the query: "will you post a new thread about parolees whom you see once and never again?" Some of these guys live in these "Houses" for 4 to 5 years. I befriended a number of them over the years. One First Nations man and I became friends for 3 years. He was raised in Winnipeg in an Indian Posse gang family. One is born into it and never allowed to leave. He was brutalized by his uncles throughout childhood to make him tough. By 14 years of age he had the authority within the gang to order murders, house invasions, thefts, intimidation - you name it. He was covered with Satanic prison tatoos and I grew to love his presence and husband accepted him too. He was a frequent visitor in our home and we met his toddlers (whom he had not raised due to being imprisoned and in halfway houses) girlfriends and cousins over the years. All of them were similar as they were intitially raised in the gang milieu.

To them violence, theft, intimidation and rage is normal. We taught him about nutrition; encouraged him to educate himself through the system whilst he was in it; invited him to dinner parties and generally treated him like a human being deserving of basic respect and non-judgment. We walked at least a hundred miles together during those years sometimes in silence and sometimes talking.
He was unable to turn himself around for the tatoos and his being Cree set society against him immediately. He worked on anger management and how to be "normal" and just couldn't find it within himself for he did not relate to society outside of gangs and prison. Once he was sent back to prison for raging at one of the staff member of the House. Four months later he requested that I represent him during his parole hearing. My self, his counsellor and parole officer all showed and managed to convince the board that he should be back in the House on parole again. This occurred and he cam to the end of his "warrant" in September 2009. This means he had officially paid his debt and was free. He died violently on the street in the vicinity of Commercial Drive in Greater Vancouver a few months later.

Though I still say hello and treat all the men with respect I do not reach out anymore for most are incapable of changing themselves. Also most of these particular parolees in these 2 Houses are afflicted with FAS (Fetal Alcohol Syndrome) though my friend was not. The FAS guys are missing brain cells so cannot miraculously redeem themselves. It is a different world for them.
As far as believing in redemption I prefer to not align myself with any belief system as it forces one to take a stand which means that the mind has closed. I cannot answer that question for you either and will not take a stand on it.

All I know is that my friend could not change and the other men continue to be in and out of prison. I no longer open my doors to them though they desperately need to see that there are other ways of living and thinking.

I am not righteous Jack. That is your judgment. I am a 60 year old lady who treats people with basic respect. There is nothing righteous about being honest. It is a preferred state of existence which allows folk to get along in harmony and trust.

I do not understand harsh minds like yours. You enjoy being fractious and judgmental but I do not.
 
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In Between Man

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I'm currently using Win XP and someone just gave me a pirated copy of Win 7. What are the risks of me installing this? I was considering just throwing it out and keep my conscience clear buy purchasing Win 7 legitimately.
 
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Elder

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I'm currently using Win XP and someone just gave me a pirated copy of Win 7. What are the risks of me installing this? I was considering just throwing it out and keep my conscience clear buy purchasing Win 7 legitimately.


What are the penalties for pirating software in Canada?

If caught with pirated software, the infringing company may be liable under both civil and criminal law. A civil action may be instituted for injunctive relief, actual damages (including infringer's profits), or statutory damages of $20,000 or more per copyrighted work infringed. Criminal penalties for copyright infringement include fines up to $1,000,000 and jail terms up to five years, or both.

The onus is upon you.
 

In Between Man

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What are the penalties for pirating software in Canada?

If caught with pirated software, the infringing company may be liable under both civil and criminal law. A civil action may be instituted for injunctive relief, actual damages (including infringer's profits), or statutory damages of $20,000 or more per copyrighted work infringed. Criminal penalties for copyright infringement include fines up to $1,000,000 and jail terms up to five years, or both.

The onus is upon you.

heh...heh...I was just kidding around...:confused1:
 

YukonJack

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Elder, pardon me for not quoting your overly long post.

I simply meant that - based on your first post - I could not help but feel that you had no faith and hope that any of the residents of the half-way houses you live next door to has any chance of being honest again. That post, at least the way I read it, indicated that you feel that you are better now, and forever will be better than those residents in the half-way houses.

Maybe you are right, maybe some of them only consider the half-way house as a rest-stop before going back to the penitentiary.

But I am sure some of them WILL be just as honest and forthright as you and me, because they learned their lesson.

We should remember that NOBODY is beyond redemption.