Canadian hostages in Philippines plead for their lives

taxslave

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Make for one Hell of a photo op. No head dresses but still....
Ops...that was sooo this morning. Now he's a Guitar Mechanic.


Maybe he will finally find a job he can do and we can get our government back into shape.
 

Ron in Regina

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Ya know db, I just went to Google, & Images, & did a search for
"Justin Trudeau beaten with a Spade by Dark Beaver" and this
popped up. Sorry.



I think I understand why you might feel violated.
 

petros

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We pretty much lost our foreign credibility over that gold salting thing a few years back. We have more gold in the dredge tailings in the Yukon than any mountain stream in the far Far-east could ever produce. Not nearly as dangerous for work or play.
See the Yukon, where the gold in your pan is yours.

You've been watching too much TV.
 

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DNA links severed head to executed hostage Robert Hall: Reports
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First posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 09:11 AM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 02:07 PM EDT
Police in the Philippines have confirmed that a severed head found near a cathedral in Jolo, Sulu, last Monday is that of murdered Canadian hostage Robert Hall, news agencies report.
Hall was executed on June 13 by the Philippine militant group Abu Sayyaf after a ransom deadline passed. A severed head was found later that day near Mt. Carmel Cathedral, the Philippine Star reports.
Chief Supt. Emmanuel Aranas, director of Philippine National Police Crime Laboratory, told media in a press briefing that DNA results confirmed the severed head was Hall's. A forensic agency in Ottawa had sent his DNA for comparison.
According to the Star, villagers in Jolo witnessed a plastic bag being dumped in front of the church on June 13. Jolo police first cordoned off the area, worried it was a bomb.
"After a thorough check it turned out to contain a decapitated head," Jolo Police Station chief Supt. Junpikar Sitin told the paper.
Abu Sayyaf kidnapped Hall, fellow Canadian John Ridsdel and two other hostages from the Holiday Ocean View Samal Resort last Sept. 21, on Samal Island off Davao City. Ridsdel was beheaded in late April.
The condition of the other hostages is unknown.
This week, the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia agreed to co-ordinated steps including possible joint military command posts, as well as air and sea patrols to tackle the murderous terror gang and other similar ones active in the area.
Abu Sayyaf, the Philippine militant group behind the murder of Canadian hostage John Ridsdel, has reportedly released a new video apparently showing Canadian hostage Robert Hall pleading with the government to “meet the demand” of his captors. (SITE Intelligence screengrab)

DNA links severed head to executed hostage Robert Hall: Reports | Canada | News
 

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When this happens Canada should have gotten tough and tell Philippines they will cut off all foreign aid to them & send in the military --- Return our Canadian Citizens alive and well -- Immediately!!
Ignoring the problem or appeasing Islamic terrorists has not been effective.
 

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Militants rejoiced as Canadians were beheaded, says Robert Hall's freed fiancee
Jim Gomez, The Associated Press
First posted: Friday, June 24, 2016 09:04 AM EDT | Updated: Friday, June 24, 2016 01:27 PM EDT
MANILA, Philippines -- Abu Sayyaf extremists rejoiced as they watched two Canadians being beheaded in the jungles of the southern Philippines, said a still-shocked Filipino hostage who was freed Friday.
Marites Flor tearfully recalled to reporters the moments when Canadians John Ridsdel and Robert Hall were handcuffed and led away to a nearby jungle clearing to be separately decapitated in April and early this month by the ransom-seeking militants.
She said that Hall, who was killed last week, was her fiance. Ridsdel was beheaded by the militants in April.
"It's so painful because I saw them moments before they got beheaded," Flor told reporters in southern Davao city, where she was flown to meet President-elect Rodrigo Duterte after her release in nearby Sulu province.
"They were watching it and they were happy," she said of the militants, adding that she did not witness the killings.
Flor said she was slapped and threatened and her fellow hostages were beaten when the militants disliked what they were doing. "They told me, 'Robert's head has been chopped off. You're next,'" she said. "They treated us like dogs, like children."
Flor was abducted with Hall, Ridsdel and Norwegian Kjartan Sekkingstad from a resort on southern Samal island in September last year and taken to the jungles of the predominantly Muslim island province of Sulu. The militants killed the two Canadians after ransom deadlines lapsed.
The captives were among some two dozen people held by the Abu Sayyaf this year.
On Friday, Indonesian Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi said seven Indonesians were abducted by armed men who raided their tugboat and taken to Sulu, in a third such recent attack. Six others were released with the vessel, she said.
Duterte said he was told that Sekkingstad may already be on the way out of captivity, but did not provide details and appeared unsure of his statement. He later went into a meeting with the Norwegian ambassador.
Duterte cut short his speech in a nationally televised police ceremony when officials arrived and brought the 38-year-old Flor, who appeared still distraught, to the stage. Duterte tried to console her and quietly asked a few questions.
Shortly before facing Flor, Duterte asked the Abu Sayyaf militants to stop ransom kidnappings, which he said have given the country "a very bad image." He warned people against joining the Abu Sayyaf, suggesting a major offensive was forthcoming.
"There will be, I said, a reckoning one of these days," he said.
It was not immediately clear if a ransom was paid to secure the freedom of Flor, who appeared in Abu Sayyaf videos tearfully pleading for her life and those of her companions. In a final video, she called on Duterte to save their lives before the extremists killed Hall a few days later.
Rebels belonging to the larger Moro National Liberation Front and a Sulu official, Abdusakur Tan, helped negotiate Flor's release with an Abu Sayyaf commander identified as Hatib Sawadjaan, two officials from the military and police who monitored the talks told The Associated Press.
They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau condemned the killings and called on other nations not to pay ransoms if their citizens are abducted to discourage the militants from carrying out more ransom kidnappings.
Marites Flor is seen after she was released by Abu Sayyaf militants in Jolo, the southern island of Mindanao, on June 24, 2016. Flor, a Filipina held hostage by extremists, was released from captivity on June 24, police said, a week after her Canadian boyfriend was beheaded by the gunmen. (STR/AFP/Getty Images)

Militants rejoiced as Canadians were beheaded, says Robert Hall's freed fiancee
 

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Body of beheaded Canadian Robert Hall possibly found in Philippines
The Associated Press
First posted: Saturday, July 02, 2016 09:10 AM EDT | Updated: Saturday, July 02, 2016 09:21 AM EDT
MANILA, Philippines -- Philippine troops on Saturday dug up what they believe is the body of Canadian hostage Robert Hall, who was beheaded by Abu Sayyaf extremists more than two weeks ago in the south after a ransom deadline lapsed.
Villagers led the troops to a hinterland near Kamuntayan village in Sulu province's Talipao town where the militants buried Hall's body after killing him on June 13. Hall's head was found abandoned outside a Roman Catholic cathedral, regional military spokesman Maj. Filemon Tan said.
Chances were high that it was Hall's body, Tan said, citing intelligence reports and help from villagers. Police forensic experts would confirm the identity, he said.
Hall was kidnapped with fellow Canadian John Ridsdel, Norwegian Kjartan Sikkengstad and Filipino Marites Flor in September last year in a yacht-berthing resort on Samal Island, also in the south and taken by boat to Sulu, a predominantly Muslim and impoverished province 950 kilometres south of Manila.
Ridsdel had also been beheaded, Sikkengstad remains in Abu Sayyaf custody and Flor has been freed.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau condemned the killings and called on other nations not to pay ransoms if their citizens are abducted to discourage the militants from carrying out more ransom kidnappings.
Philippine troops have been carrying out an offensive that has killed dozens of militants in Sulu.
The Abu Sayyaf, which has more than 400 armed fighters, is blacklisted by the United States and the Philippines as a terrorist group for bombings, kidnappings for ransom, beheadings and extortion. The militants have been weakened by years of battle setbacks but remain a national security threat.
Abu Sayyaf, the Philippine militant group behind the murder of Canadian hostage John Ridsdel, has reportedly released a new video apparently showing Canadian hostage Robert Hall pleading with the government to “meet the demand” of his captors. (SITE Intelligence screengrab)

Body of beheaded Canadian Robert Hall possibly found in Philippines | Canada | N
 

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Malaysian security forces have killed a key member of a Philippine armed group in a shootout in waters off Sabah in Borneo, according to the Philippine military.

Abu Sayyaf commander Abraham Hamid had led the kidnapping of several foreigners from a tourist resort in the southern Philippines last year, two of whom were later beheaded.

"The death of Hamid is a big blow to the [Abu Sayyaf] as it neutralised one of the notorious bandits and will degrade their capability for spotting and kidnapping victims in the future," said Major Filemon Tan, regional military spokesperson for the Philippines, on Saturday.

Tan said Hamid had also been involved in the kidnapping of four Indonesian crewmen in April.

Two other fighters were killed alongside Hamid in the shootout with Malaysian police in Lahad Datu in eastern Sabah, he said.

Separately, the Philippine military said that at least three soldiers were killed in the southern Philippine island of Sulu, following a gun battle with Abu Sayyaf fighters.

Seventeen other soldiers were reported injured in the encounter, which lasted for almost two hours, in Patikul town on Saturday.

In recent months, government forces have been carrying out major operations against the Abu Sayyaf, which beheaded two Canadian hostages after demands for millions of dollars were not met.

The armed group released two others, a Norwegian and Filipina, after ransoms were believed to be paid.

There have been a spate of kidnappings of Malaysian and Indonesian sailors at sea in recent months that have been blamed on the Abu Sayyaf.

While Hamid and two fighters were killed, Sabah security forces have arrested two others, Tan said.

Abdul Rashid Harun, Sabah police chief, told AFP news agency the incident was the Malaysian authorities' first direct confrontation with suspected kidnappers in the waters off eastern Sabah.

On his blog, Najib Razak, Malaysia's prime minister, praised his security forces and said his country would cooperate with the Philippines to fight the recurring kidnappings.

The Abu Sayyaf, a loose network of armed fighters based on remote islands in the southern Philippines, has defied more than a decade of military operations.

The group was formed in the 1990s with seed money from Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network, but has been on a lucrative kidnapping spree in recent years.

Philippines: Abu Sayyaf commander slain in Malaysia | News | Al Jazeera
 

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A big bruise for Canadians on the administrative handling of this tragic case

I would love to see the families take their tragic loss to higher grounds,what a screw up for the Canadian government
 

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A big bruise for Canadians on the administrative handling of this tragic case

I would love to see the families take their tragic loss to higher grounds,what a screw up for the Canadian government

Not sure where they would go to for a different answer. Trudeau's Libs maintained the Harper Cons stance on not paying ransom.

Of course if the went to say, the Supreme Court and argued successfully that paying ransoms are the correct way to proceed in these cases it would be open season on Canadian tourists everywhere......
 

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I understand other hostages were let go for a small amount of money,the difference was in the process,the families of the deceased were cheated of fair process with opportunities limited by the knowledge holders,which was the Canadian government
This case is not about recanting on Canada s stance on no ransom,but more about who holds the key to fair process,as I understand the Canadian government made it worse for these families,days on end endangering the hostages
I understand in the freeing of hostages,the difference was the Filipino government was the process to go through for success,
Something to ponder along with the shame
Dam rights it is a big bruise for Canada

Calling out to all Constitution lawyers
I will assist with the design,free!

Back to not being able to manage a garage sale successfully,this case would example these sediment s