Canadian Education System

Anonymous

Electoral Member
Mar 24, 2002
783
0
16
canadian education system

I would really like to know what people think of the Canadian education system in comparison with the American education system. i am a canadian student and would like some insight on canadian education system, its drawbacks and benifits.

Will look forward to reading the comments in response to the above, if people are interested i will post my personal take on the matter.

Thankz
 

Cyberm4n

Electoral Member
Jun 6, 2002
259
0
16
44
Toronto
Welcome to the forum sadia.

I've not really studied the education systems, nor have I done any research on them. Please post your personal views and we can debate them.

Cya
 

Jonas

New Member
Mar 24, 2002
33
0
6
Leipzig
I think any free education system is a good education. Whether it's superb, or not so good. Many places around the world must pay for lower level education?
 

ponygurl

Nominee Member
Jun 3, 2004
63
0
6
Ottawa
Re: canadian education system

sadia said:
I would really like to know what people think of the Canadian education system in comparison with the American education system. i am a canadian student and would like some insight on canadian education system, its drawbacks and benifits.

Will look forward to reading the comments in response to the above, if people are interested i will post my personal take on the matter.

Thankz
Well..I have had no experience with the American education system.. so my take is merely one on the Canadian system.
My kids attend the public school system, as did I.
The school they attend is a small country school.. population is less than 250 . But in the school board standings, they are in the top rankings.
Class size (they are smaller classes) and the fact that the teachers put blood sweat and tears into seeing these kids succeed have gotten us there.
I think a huge problem with today's society is that they do not view education as a community effort.
Many parents want to send their kids to school, and recieve them back home " all learned".
Education takes the efforts of the teachers, parents, grandparents and children.. all combined. Education does not end when the kids leave the schhol yard.
 

Numure

Council Member
Apr 30, 2004
1,063
0
36
Montréal, Québec
Québec has a différent system. Effective, and currently under another reform. Elementry has just gone threw a reform and the new Goverment put back the Secondary(High School) reform. Public schools are "safe". I do not know what kind of comparaison your asking for. At any rate, I do not know what the American system is like.
 

joellewoodruff

New Member
Jun 4, 2004
30
0
6
Toronto
Re: canadian education system

I think it's hard to get along in the United States education System. I like that most poeple here go to free schools, while in the states private schools are the choice. Teachers in the United States are less respected. The scholls there are much more run down. I really appreciate the order and clenlines of our schools. Not only that, but Canada has some of the lowest tuition rates in the world and I'm glad I don't have to pay $75, 000.00 a year in tuition.
 

Démocrite

Nominee Member
Jun 1, 2004
63
0
6
There is no such things as a Canadian Education system. It simply does not exist, and this is why there is no Ministry of Education in Ottawa. Each province has its own programmes and ministry.
 

ponygurl

Nominee Member
Jun 3, 2004
63
0
6
Ottawa
Démocrite said:
There is no such things as a Canadian Education system. It simply does not exist, and this is why there is no Ministry of Education in Ottawa. Each province has its own programmes and ministry.
True.
 

ponygurl

Nominee Member
Jun 3, 2004
63
0
6
Ottawa
Numure said:
In Québec, we have the lowest in all of North America.
You mean you have the lowest tuition fees for QUEBECERS.
Take for example .bishops University.
For a quebec resident, the tuition fee per credit course runs at 56.00$ approx. For all other Canadian residents, they charge 139.00$
However.. you can travel across the border to Ontario and pay the same tuition fee Ontarians pay.
Much like the trades industry.. Ottawa is chock full of Quebecers taking advantage of the adequate need for labour, and make a happy living working in Ontario.. but god halp the Ontario tradesman who attempts to cross the river to seek employment. :roll:
 

Numure

Council Member
Apr 30, 2004
1,063
0
36
Montréal, Québec
ponygurl said:
Numure said:
In Québec, we have the lowest in all of North America.
You mean you have the lowest tuition fees for QUEBECERS.
Take for example .bishops University.
For a quebec resident, the tuition fee per credit course runs at 56.00$ approx. For all other Canadian residents, they charge 139.00$
However.. you can travel across the border to Ontario and pay the same tuition fee Ontarians pay.
Much like the trades industry.. Ottawa is chock full of Quebecers taking advantage of the adequate need for labour, and make a happy living working in Ontario.. but god halp the Ontario tradesman who attempts to cross the river to seek employment. :roll:

Vive le Québec! :p Its our home, we deserve a good education... Though Bishop isnt a first choice. I personnaly did my Political Science Major at McGill (Bleh.. wanted to see an english point of view)... And law at L'Université de Sherbrooke. Many foreign exchange Students go at both, and they do pay a différent price then us. Its just normal, we live here and pay the taxes for does advantages.
 

ponygurl

Nominee Member
Jun 3, 2004
63
0
6
Ottawa
Numure said:
ponygurl said:
Numure said:
In Québec, we have the lowest in all of North America.
You mean you have the lowest tuition fees for QUEBECERS.
Take for example .bishops University.
For a quebec resident, the tuition fee per credit course runs at 56.00$ approx. For all other Canadian residents, they charge 139.00$
However.. you can travel across the border to Ontario and pay the same tuition fee Ontarians pay.
Much like the trades industry.. Ottawa is chock full of Quebecers taking advantage of the adequate need for labour, and make a happy living working in Ontario.. but god halp the Ontario tradesman who attempts to cross the river to seek employment. :roll:
Building walls is usually not a great idea unless you can be totally self sufficient. :wink:

Vive le Québec! :p Its our home, we deserve a good education... Though Bishop isnt a first choice. I personnaly did my Political Science Major at McGill (Bleh.. wanted to see an english point of view)... And law at L'Université de Sherbrooke. Many foreign exchange Students go at both, and they do pay a différent price then us. Its just normal, we live here and pay the taxes for does advantages.
 

Démocrite

Nominee Member
Jun 1, 2004
63
0
6
We pay much less in Quebec, but we get even much less in return compared to Ontario's education system. I've been in both, I know what I'm talking about.
 

Numure

Council Member
Apr 30, 2004
1,063
0
36
Montréal, Québec
We actually get much more... The quality of University Education is much higher. Why we pay smaller tuition fees? Well, instead, the goverment givces money to the Universities as compensation for lost revenues that would of came from that.
 

Démocrite

Nominee Member
Jun 1, 2004
63
0
6
I don't know where you've been. But I know for sure that university libraries in Quebec are among the worst in Canada, just because the budget for new books and scientific publications is split between Cegep network and Universities. Doing social sciences researches at U of T, or Ottawa University or even York University is a dream compared to any low budget french University in Quebec. Unlike most students in Quebec, I favor rising the tuitions fees to get better universities and upgraded libraries.
 

Numure

Council Member
Apr 30, 2004
1,063
0
36
Montréal, Québec
I went to Sherbrook... I had access to all the books needed. Though, I know all the Goverment Universities (UQAM, UQAC, UQAQ...) have much lower budgets.
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
1,238
1
38
Winnipeg
That picture of Duceppe is starting to freak me out Numure...it's like his eyes are moving, following me. No offense, I told my mother the same thing about her picture of Tommy Douglas.

Something that really bothers me about the Canadian education system, or lack thereof, is how uneven it is across the provinces.

I spent kindergarten and the beginning of grade 1 in Alberta, then we moved to Saskatchewan until I was in grade 4, then we moved to Ottawa until grade 7, then back to Regina where I finished high school. After high school I came to Winnipeg to take photography. I took night courses in writing (journalism and editorials) in Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

The curriculums are massively different, the quality varies greatly, and the education is spotty. You can barely compare one province to another, yet we are an increasingly transient society.

We really do need a national education program. It doesn't matter so much about what language it's taught in, but reading levels and math skills need to be kept at a par in all provinces and territories.

As for post-secondary...that is very much affected by primary and secondary educations. There were supposed high school grads in my photography course who couldn't read or do math. Most had taken some sort of advanced photo course in high school, but that wasn't available to me so I was largely self-taught. The writing course I took in Saskatchewan had me pegged at the level usual for my education (grade 12, some post secondary). The one here pegged me at advanced university level.

We really need to have a national system.
 

Numure

Council Member
Apr 30, 2004
1,063
0
36
Montréal, Québec
No, we don't. It would put our education system in the hands of Ottawa and that shouldnt happen. We value our own distinct system in Québec, few want it to change.
 

Reverend Blair

Council Member
Apr 3, 2004
1,238
1
38
Winnipeg
What of the kids who move from Manitoba to Quebec though, or vice versa? From what I can tell Quebec's education system is superior, so kids from Manitoba would be behind if they moved there. Conversely, a kid moving from Quebec to Manitoba would likely be bored and not pay enough attention in class. I've been in both situations and neither is any fun.

I'm not saying that the feds should set curriculum, just that they should set rules for the provinces so that a grade 10 student is a grade 10 student everywhere...expected to read and write and do math at a certain level. If they can do that, then they can over-come differences in curriculum.