Brits report psychic powers.

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A majority of Brits believe in psychic powers, and more than 40% report reading others' thoughts or having theirs read.

In the most haunted country in the world, a fifth (20%) of Brits said they have actually seen a ghost - a huge number - and 29% believe in life after death.


Britons report 'psychic powers'


More than 40% of people claimed experience of mind-reading

More than half of Britons believe in psychic powers such as mind-reading and premonitions, a survey suggests.

Of 1,006 adults polled for Readers Digest Magazine, 43% reported reading others' thoughts or having theirs read.

More than half had had a dream or premonition of an event before it happened and 26% said they had sensed when a loved-one was ill or in trouble.

A fifth said they had seen a ghost and 29% believed near-death experiences were evidence there was an afterlife.

Of those questioned, 43% claimed to have tapped into other people's thoughts or to have had their own minds read by someone else.

Mind power

More than two-thirds said they could sense when someone was looking at them and 62% could tell who was ringing before they picked up the phone.

More than 10% thought they could influence machinery or electronic equipment using their minds.

One in 10 said something bad had happened to another person after they had wished for it to happen.

Women were more likely to believe in the paranormal than men, though 53% of males said they sometimes knew who was ringing before picking up the phone and 45% had experienced dream or premonition before an event.

Despite the high numbers who said they had experienced such phenomena, only 9% described themselves as psychic.

Simon Bacon, lecturer at London's College of Psychic Studies and a practising medium, said: "When you say psychic, many people have an image of an old woman in a gown with a crystal ball. They don't associate themselves with that."

Older people were more likely to believe in the paranormal, with 74% of 55 to 64 year olds saying they thought psychic powers were possible, compared with 52% of 18 to 24 year olds.

Padraig Reidy, deputy editor the New Humanist magazine, published by the Rationalist Association, said the idea that people could possess psychic powers was "rubbish".

He said: "Most people encounter mediums and psychics and so on at fairgrounds and while it stays as entertainment it is fine but when people start ruling their lives by it is quite another thing."

He told BBC News belief in many types of psychic powers stemmed from a desire for control.

He said: "The implication is that we hope that there is some influence we can tap into. It's kicking against the randomness of things."

He said it was easy to look back on an event with hindsight and say, 'I knew that was going to happen'.

He added: "Sometimes people who say, 'I knew something bad would happen' are just inveterate worriers anyway and they are pleased to have finally been proved right."

A Church of England spokesman said it was not the type of subject the Church could comment on.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5017910.stm
 

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Blackleaf said:
A majority of Brits believe in psychic powers, and more than 40% report reading others' thoughts or having theirs read.
It reminds me of the scene in the second 'Matrix' film where the Oracle explains that ghosts, werewolves, deja vu, etc., is some kind of grand code error. I'd rather think it was something closer to a "brainfart" (no, that's not an APA-approved term :p).

Either Mme. Blavatsky is making a comeback (which would be truly inspired, as she, herself, is quite dead) or an increasingly panicked UK is responding to terrorism, the euro, and German metal bands by engaging in a bit of psychological sleight-of-hand. It's a correlative effect. States of increased, ambient anxiety--such as those intentionally undertaken by Vodun practitioners when summoning loa--can emulate what people, for lack of better descriptions, would consider to be supernatural events.

But I'll be sure to ask what Mr. Grey thinks, the next time I'm abducted. The last time we had tea in low orbit, he explained that one in ten "subjects" don't seem to mind the probing. :twisted:
 

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They're all deluded.
I can't deny the fact of such powers . You never had a hunch before something happened? Never had a dream that came through? Never felt a presence that mad your spine tingle? Never met a dead relative that you never saw in your dreams? Did you ever get a vibe off someone of who or what they're intent was? Didn't you ever think of someone and have news from that person after? You may say it's all a coincidence, but if you do the stats of the probability of it you may be amazed, your chances of winning the lottery would be better than this mere coincidence
 

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I can't deny the fact of such powers .
I can, and do.
...if you do the stats of the probability of it you may be amazed...
I have, and I'm unimpressed. Low probability by itself isn't evidence of anything anyway. Lots of very low probability events happen all the time, people just remember things that have some apparent significance and forget the rest. How many times, for instance, have you dreamed something that didn't come true? Thought of someone and then not had news of them afterwards? You have to factor that in as well, but you won't remember those because they have no apparent significance. It's wishful thinking, selective thinking, confirmation bias, magical thinking, coincidence, and all the many other ways people use to fool themselves into believing something they want to believe.

There is no good evidence such powers exist. Over a century of serious, scholarly, academic research into the paranormal has produced nothing that can withstand routine skeptical scrutiny. It's produced lots of examples of fraud, misperception, poor experimental design, mistakes, and so on, but no evidence that any paranormal phenomenon is real.
 

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it 's true that it can be a vehicle for fraud, so is religion, politics , news, and advertisement.
But I know what I experienced and saw. You can say it was wishful thinking , but i wasn't looking for it. Your choice to call me a fool , you don't have to believe, it's not important to. It's not what you believe but what you are that makes the difference.
 

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Dexter, the paranormal exists. I've witnessed several harrowing events myself. The one that still jars most occurred to me almost 30 years ago. I was sitting alone one late evening reading my paper in the livingroom of a cottage I rented when a noise caught my attention. I put my paper down. It was getting louder. And it was coming from the floor just a few feet in front of me. It was a voice of huge sadness. It got louder and louder and it filled the room. And I ran to my bedroom and slammed the door. I didn't sleep that night. In the morning I received a call that my great grandmother, the much loved family matriarch, had died last night. I have no explanation for it. It was if the grief experienced elsewhere suddenly surfaced where I was. And ran amok.
Not making it up. I was there.
 

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Your choice to call me a fool.
I didn't. I told you you're wrong, that's all.

tamarin said:
Dexter, the paranormal exists.
No it doesn't. You heard an unidentifiable noise in an unfamiliar building and ran away from it rather than investigating it. There are many possible explanations for odd noises in buildings. You don't have enough information to justify concluding it had anything to do with your great grandmother's death, and if she hadn't died when she did you'd simply remember it as an odd noise in the cabin, if you remembered it at all.
 

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I didn't. I told you you're wrong, that's all.

No it doesn't. You heard an unidentifiable noise in an unfamiliar building and ran away from it rather than investigating it. There are many possible explanations for odd noises in buildings. You don't have enough information to justify concluding it had anything to do with your great grandmother's death, and if she hadn't died when she did you'd simply remember it as an odd noise in the cabin, if you remembered it at all.
what do you mean I'm wrong to be a fool? lol
So no life after death for you then am I right?
Science like religion can be blind. If you set out to disprove then there's a good chance you'll get that result. Then again it's the same the other way. I have put my hand on a cold spot that was shaped of a body standing up. It was very distinct. The first thing I did was to check for a draft, sorry but there was none. and are you sure there's no scientific proof. I doubt that. Don't buy it. Its not fun to be fooled but somethings you can't deny. For what it's worth the catholic church does exorcism. True I never saw one tho, like to . Doesn't show but I do have a sceptical mind.
 

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The only reason scientific proof hasnt' been found is because very few have ever gone looking for it. There IS a lot of skepticism about the subject, we've been told it's all a bunch of rubbish. If more people took the time to look, youre "proof" would probably surface. There are several theories out there, but because the scientific community is so square none of it will get the chance to be proven or disproven.

I do not think things such as "telekineses" are possible.

However, when I had an explosive argument with my grandmother that left me in tears, my mom had a sudden sense to phone me, and the first words out of her mouth were "Oh my god Amber, what's wrong? Are you hurt?" And this was mere seconds after the argument. She lives 4 hours away, and there's no possible way somebody could have told her what had just happened. That is more real than anything else I can think of. Never before had I experienced such a connection with my loved ones. When one of us is in distress the others respond, no matter where they are.
 
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Yes I'm as sure of that as I am of anything. If you think there is some, maybe you could find it for us.

You know, I recently heard someone quote this: "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!"

You may not believe, but you have no evidence to back your claim either!
 

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The only reason scientific proof hasnt' been found is because very few have ever gone looking for it. There IS a lot of skepticism about the subject, we've been told it's all a bunch of rubbish. If more people took the time to look, youre "proof" would probably surface. There are several theories out there, but because the scientific community is so square none of it will get the chance to be proven or disproven.
Here's a fella that went looking for "psychic phenomena: http://skepdic.com/randi.html

I think there's a few things that science hasn't figured out yet, but these people claiming to have special powers and whatnot are mostly self-deluded or just plain outright scammers. So for the most part, I'm on science and James Randi's side. But there are more important things for science to research than a handful of people in the world that do weird things.
 

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The only reason scientific proof hasnt' been found is because very few have ever gone looking for it.
Nonsense. Lots of people have looked hard for a long time. J.B. Rhine had multiple paraspsychology research projects going on at Duke University for decades. The Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research project spent $10 million in the last three decades looking. Total and complete failure, consistently. There's nothing there.

However, when I had an explosive argument with my grandmother that left me in tears, my mom had a sudden sense to phone me, and the first words out of her mouth were "Oh my god Amber, what's wrong? Are you hurt?" And this was mere seconds after the argument.
Uh huh. And how many times has your mother phoned you wondering if you were okay, and you were? You don't have that data, do you. One coincidence doesn't make the case.
 

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Guess the most level headed comment in this thread was said by Lybragirl.
That I have to copy. It's funny no comment on Edgar Casey nor Nostradamus, Gary Kurts well you have to see him to believe it. Guess it would be easier to prove Aliens but then again you wouldn't believe that even after a good long annal probing,,,,,Rotflmao,,, had to say it.
We should take a poll of those who really had such an experience.
I do deplore those who want to believe and will swallow anything, no respect for that.
Then to dismiss personal experiences is to call them lies.
 

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Guess the most level headed comment in this thread was said by Lybragirl.
That I have to copy.

I wish I could claim credit for it, but the truth is, I heard one of the military witnesses quote it at the 'Disclosure' event hosted by Dr. Steven Greer! It struck me as profound, but eloquent and true.