Body Positivity Has been Hijacked by Morbidly Obese Women

[Jinentonix]

Remember when the Body Positivity Movement began? It was about people, although women in general, with body "issues". Things like extra weight, noticeable scars, skin conditions, amputations, physical deformities etc and that every woman is beautiful in her own way.

Well, the morbidly obese women took it over and now use the movement to not only justify their morbidly obese lifestyles but a number of them try their hand as social media influencers convincing others that there's nothing wrong with it and that they are perfectly healthy. Some even make it onto national morning shows and crap like "The View" ffs. I'm betting most of them are also feministas who think they're all '10s'.
So now, unless you're a morbidly obese woman, the Body Positivity Movement isn't for you anymore, even if you're hitting the 250lb range.

This seems to be a repeating pattern. Genuinely progressive ideals getting hijacked by left-wing extremists to make it all about themselves and creating even more division in the process.

 

[Serryah]

Or maybe it's women who might be morbidly obese are tired of attitudes like those who think degrading them, belittling them and so on will somehow 'magically' make them the size they want them to be? Thus they stopped giving a shit about actually maybe losing the weight and are more "if you don't like me fat then fuck you, I never will lose the weight so I might as well embrace it"?

They either fall into the body positivity side of things, or they fall into "I'm fat, I'm ugly, I should never be seen, I should die" side of things.

And then there's the "I constantly struggle day after day to do something about my weight" types who are treated like dog shit because all Joe Public sees is a fat person and nevermind how hard it can be, especially when your own body is working against you. I mean, most people assume that all a fat person has to do is calorie deficit and exercise. Except no, no it's NOT that simple and that people think it is just shows the ignorance and unwillingness to even be educated on the topic.

And the fact you throw issues into quotation marks doesn't exactly help your case, rather you come off as part of those who would belittle anyone who isn't your ideal in appearance and especially the morbidly obese.

Here's the thing - how are we to judge the morbidly obese? BMI? That's an absolutely flawed system of determinations and has been knowingly so for a while. Actual weight? Hard to use too since that doesn't factor in muscle growth. Measuring tape and clothing fit? That's the more accepted way lately, but it's still got problems there too. Actual physical conditioning? That circles back to your "morbidly obese justify their lifestyle" thing, because there are some people who are obese and morbidly obese and will run in marathons, dance and do other physical activities but still remain obese and heaven forbid those types promote their lifestyle, right? So that's out too.

So while it could be asked "So what do we do?" to judge these things, I'd hit back with unless you are in that situation, there is no "We" and shut the hell up over it because you've no idea what the person is doing.

You might never have struggled against obesity of any kind, and great, good on you (or maybe you did and 'beat it'; again great, good on you). I have all my life, every single day. And no I don't justify it, I certainly don't promote it either, but that doesn't matter to the people who say "just eat less, exercise more". You have NO idea how much I wish it was that easy, how much life would be better (supposedly) if it was and so on and so on. I sure as shit know I will never, ever, be the "ideal" for my height/gender/age. But I don't need Joe Public to put me down, I do that very well on my own, thanks. Trauma, genetics and other, as you put it, "issues" have made sure this will be a thing for the entirety of my life but there are people - like you - who think it's your job to somehow point it out as if it'd help... except you just add onto the problems.

And if there are women or men out there who are done with it and basically said "fuck it all" and are good with themselves, and are out there saying "Be good with yourself" then more power to them. Because ironically, the moment you are "good with yourself", you realize that maybe you should work on that weight issue and that's what happens to a lot of the people being outspoken.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Remember when the Body Positivity Movement began? It was about people, although women in general, with body "issues". Things like extra weight, noticeable scars, skin conditions, amputations, physical deformities etc and that every woman is beautiful in her own way.

Well, the morbidly obese women took it over and now use the movement to not only justify their morbidly obese lifestyles but a number of them try their hand as social media influencers convincing others that there's nothing wrong with it and that they are perfectly healthy. Some even make it onto national morning shows and crap like "The View" ffs. I'm betting most of them are also feministas who think they're all '10s'.
So now, unless you're a morbidly obese woman, the Body Positivity Movement isn't for you anymore, even if you're hitting the 250lb range.

This seems to be a repeating pattern. Genuinely progressive ideals getting hijacked by left-wing extremists to make it all about themselves and creating even more division in the process.

Sure, just like notions of fiscal responsibility and social order get hijacked by losers in life (and those who prey on them) to turn part of the rightward end of the political spectrum into a fascist freakshow.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Here's the thing - how are we to judge the morbidly obese? BMI? That's an absolutely flawed system of determinations and has been knowingly so for a while.

I’ve got a buddy that I used to work with more than a decade to go. On the BMI scale he was morbidly obese…& he also ran about 5% body fat, looked like Michelangelo had chiselled him out of marble, but was about 5’8” tall. Dude had the physique that looked like he should be in spandex and wearing a cape. BMI doesn’t work for those that vary in build from the conventional.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

An unhealthy mind and body are promoted today.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I’ve got a buddy that I used to work with more than a decade to go. On the BMI scale he was morbidly obese…& he also ran about 5% body fat, looked like Michelangelo had chiselled him out of marble, but was about 5’8” tall. Dude had the physique that looked like he should be in spandex and wearing a cape. BMI doesn’t work for those that vary in build from the conventional.

BMI is stupid.
I know I need to ditch about 25 pounds, but I want to be a GQ Model now!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I’ve got a buddy that I used to work with more than a decade to go. On the BMI scale he was morbidly obese…& he also ran about 5% body fat, looked like Michelangelo had chiselled him out of marble, but was about 5’8” tall. Dude had the physique that looked like he should be in spandex and wearing a cape. BMI doesn’t work for those that vary in build from the conventional.

Fatass, huh? Sloppy, lazy couch potato stuffing his face. I know because his number is 34!

Sigh. Actually, it's not the medical community that's to blame, it's the assholes with half a clue taking a measurement standard, ignoring the hundred-item list of limitations, cautions, and corrections, and imposing it as Da Troof!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

An unhealthy mind and body are promoted today.

As the Romans said, "Mens wacko in corpore lardo."

 

[petros]

 

[bob the dog]

Remember when the Body Positivity Movement began? It was about people, although women in general, with body "issues". Things like extra weight, noticeable scars, skin conditions, amputations, physical deformities etc and that every woman is beautiful in her own way.

Well, the morbidly obese women took it over and now use the movement to not only justify their morbidly obese lifestyles but a number of them try their hand as social media influencers convincing others that there's nothing wrong with it and that they are perfectly healthy. Some even make it onto national morning shows and crap like "The View" ffs. I'm betting most of them are also feministas who think they're all '10s'.
So now, unless you're a morbidly obese woman, the Body Positivity Movement isn't for you anymore, even if you're hitting the 250lb range.

This seems to be a repeating pattern. Genuinely progressive ideals getting hijacked by left-wing extremists to make it all about themselves and creating even more division in the process.

Like when CBC hired Katy Simpson because she qualified / exemplified the situation but then made her a foreign correspondent only to see her try and transform herself into a beauty queen which goes against the entire body positive movement. If she wouldn't have been obese she never would have been hired. I guess as long as she is happy it's all good.

 

[pgs]

Yesterday while listening to radio I hear about whales being killed by ocean wind farms . Why are feminists not protesting against wind turbines when they are the same species .
I had a good laugh .

 

[Serryah]

An unhealthy mind and body are promoted today.

Promoted???

What world do you live in cause it's certainly not the real one.

"Unhealthy" (and it's up for question what you mean by that) minds aren't just a problem, it's a major freakin' issue in health care right now. And if unhealthy bodies were being promoted then all the problems we have wouldn't be problems.

 

[Jinentonix]

Or maybe it's women who might be morbidly obese are tired of attitudes like those who think degrading them, belittling them and so on will somehow 'magically' make them the size they want them to be? Thus they stopped giving a shit about actually maybe losing the weight and are more "if you don't like me fat then fuck you, I never will lose the weight so I might as well embrace it"?

I see you missed the point, as usual. Completely hijacking the Body Positivity Movement and making it all about women's obesity and ONLY about women's obesity is not the same as merely "embracing" their obesity.

They either fall into the body positivity side of things, or they fall into "I'm fat, I'm ugly, I should never be seen, I should die" side of things.

Uh huh. And all the other people who have been told similar shit because of their own body issues like scarring, skin conditions, amputations, physical deformities etc have been told by those morbidly obese bitches that they don't count.

And then there's the "I constantly struggle day after day to do something about my weight" types who are treated like dog shit because all Joe Public sees is a fat person and nevermind how hard it can be, especially when your own body is working against you.

Actually, most people are pretty supportive of those who are trying to lose weight. It's the attitude of the obese women who insist they are perfectly healthy and use social media to influence others to think the same, that morbid obesity is healthy that needs to stop.

I mean, most people assume that all a fat person has to do is calorie deficit and exercise. Except no, no it's NOT that simple and that people think it is just shows the ignorance and unwillingness to even be educated on the topic.

Actually for most people it is. Those who suffer from glandular problems are a very tiny minority. However for the rest of them they don't have to calorie deficit themselves to lose weight. Just eat less of what they normally eat and move more. It really is that simple. Then there are the true food addicts. No different than drug addicts or alcoholics. Food is their drug of choice. And they are not healthy either as they tend to have some kind of emotional or mental issues behind their overeating. Being fat isn't necessarily something to be ashamed of but it's NOT something one should be proud of and promote via social media.

And the fact you throw issues into quotation marks doesn't exactly help your case, rather you come off as part of those who would belittle anyone who isn't your ideal in appearance and especially the morbidly obese.

Nah, that's just you deciding to read more into something than there is.

Here's the thing - how are we to judge the morbidly obese?

Easy. Don't be so obtuse. If you're under 6ft and weigh 400lbs or more, that ain't muscle mass sister, that's mostly fat, period. If you get winded just from standing up, you're morbidly obese. When you're so big you can't even wipe your own ass, you're morbidly obese. When you demand wheelchair service at the airport despite insisting to the world that you're perfectly healthy, you're morbidly obese. When you need TWO airplane or train seats for your ass, you're morbidly obese.

BMI? That's an absolutely flawed system of determinations and has been knowingly so for a while. Actual weight? Hard to use too since that doesn't factor in muscle growth. Measuring tape and clothing fit? That's the more accepted way lately, but it's still got problems there too. Actual physical conditioning? That circles back to your "morbidly obese justify their lifestyle" thing, because there are some people who are obese and morbidly obese and will run in marathons, dance and do other physical activities but still remain obese and heaven forbid those types promote their lifestyle, right? So that's out too.

A) I would LOVE to see one of your supposed marathon runners who is morbidly obese. B) Dancing and doing other physical activities doesn't guarantee weight loss if you're pounding down 4000-5000 calories a day. Unless you're a high performing athlete maybe. So are they promoting their TRUE lifestyles or just what they want you to see. Are they honestly promoting how much they eat in a day? Doubt it

So while it could be asked "So what do we do?" to judge these things, I'd hit back with unless you are in that situation, there is no "We" and shut the hell up over it because you've no idea what the person is doing.

You might never have struggled against obesity of any kind, and great, good on you (or maybe you did and 'beat it'; again great, good on you). I have all my life, every single day. And no I don't justify it, I certainly don't promote it either, but that doesn't matter to the people who say "just eat less, exercise more". You have NO idea how much I wish it was that easy, how much life would be better (supposedly) if it was and so on and so on. I sure as shit know I will never, ever, be the "ideal" for my height/gender/age. But I don't need Joe Public to put me down, I do that very well on my own, thanks. Trauma, genetics and other, as you put it, "issues" have made sure this will be a thing for the entirety of my life but there are people - like you - who think it's your job to somehow point it out as if it'd help... except you just add onto the problems.

And if there are women or men out there who are done with it and basically said "fuck it all" and are good with themselves, and are out there saying "Be good with yourself" then more power to them. Because ironically, the moment you are "good with yourself", you realize that maybe you should work on that weight issue and that's what happens to a lot of the people being outspoken.

I'm not gonna address then rest of your pathetic dreck because it's clear you missed the point entirely. This isn't about judging people who are morbidly obese, it's about morbidly obese women telling other women (and men) who deal with other body positivity issues to fuck off because the body positivity movement isn't for them. It's about morbidly obese women pretending they're perfectly healthy while justifying their unhealthy eating habits and encouraging others to do the same via social media.

If you can't tell the difference, well that's on you. Righteous rant though, too bad it was off target.

 

[Jinentonix]

Promoted???

What world do you live in cause it's certainly not the real one.

Speaking of not being in touch with reality. Look up fat influencers on TikTok or Youtube and listen to the bullshit they spew.

 

[Serryah]

Speaking of not being in touch with reality. Look up fat influencers on TikTok or Youtube and listen to the bullshit they spew.

Well I avoid tiktok unless someone I actually follow posts something from it. I don't actively go onto the stupid thing.

As for Youtube, I'd rather watch other things. Not that I don't believe you, I do.

Fact is, I won't deny - and didn't deny - there are people out there who are taking the whole thing too far. But I explained that and you just ignored it.

I see you missed the point, as usual. Completely hijacking the Body Positivity Movement and making it all about women's obesity and ONLY about women's obesity is not the same as merely "embracing" their obesity.

1. there is no "complete hijacking" of the body positivity movement. There are SOME people out there who are pushing "If you're FAT embrace it", sure, and while I don't agree with it and am against it, I also understand why they're doing it (which I stated before).
2. While there is a HUGE focus on women's obesity, that's true, obese men aren't somehow forgotten, rather there's a complete social difference between the two usually.

Uh huh. And all the other people who have been told similar shit because of their own body issues like scarring, skin conditions, amputations, physical deformities etc have been told by those morbidly obese bitches that they don't count.

Proof of it?

Cause if you've proof obese women telling everyone you mention that their own body issues "don't count" then I'd not only join you on calling them out, but I'd go so far as to tell them to shut the fuck up, period.

Actually, most people are pretty supportive of those who are trying to lose weight.

.... yyyyeeeaaaahhhhh no. No, most people are not. Some are but nowhere near most.

It's the attitude of the obese women who insist they are perfectly healthy and use social media to influence others to think the same, that morbid obesity is healthy that needs to stop.

I agree.

But then it goes back to - what is "healthy"? What determines health?

Actually for most people it is.

Actually for some people it is. And for a lot of others, it's not.

Those who suffer from glandular problems are a very tiny minority.

There's glandular problems and other problems medically that cause people to be obese.

However for the rest of them they don't have to calorie deficit themselves to lose weight. Just eat less of what they normally eat and move more. It really is that simple.

Thank you for proving you don't have a clue what it's like and you are just being judgmental and part of the problem for people. It's NOT that simple.

Then there are the true food addicts. No different than drug addicts or alcoholics. Food is their drug of choice. And they are not healthy either as they tend to have some kind of emotional or mental issues behind their overeating. Being fat isn't necessarily something to be ashamed of but it's NOT something one should be proud of and promote via social media.

Funny you say it's not something to be ashamed of, yet here you are, pointing out people should be ashamed and be shamed.

Nah, that's just you deciding to read more into something than there is.

Or maybe you're ignorant to the fact the things you are saying and the effect they could have on others. Then again, most people are like that.

Easy. Don't be so obtuse. If you're under 6ft and weigh 400lbs or more, that ain't muscle mass sister, that's mostly fat, period. If you get winded just from standing up, you're morbidly obese. When you're so big you can't even wipe your own ass, you're morbidly obese. When you demand wheelchair service at the airport despite insisting to the world that you're perfectly healthy, you're morbidly obese. When you need TWO airplane or train seats for your ass, you're morbidly obese.

And you think people who are morbidly obese don't know this? You think they somehow LIKE being the focus of degradation? Society pointing fingers and snickering, and worse? Have you ever BEEN on the other side of that "worse"? I have.

If you're under 6ft and 400, it could be fat, sure, and a lot of it, and it could also be muscle. You don't know, you're assuming.

Winded standing up? Not necessarily obese.

Can't wipe your own ass - yeah, that's concerning as hell and you likely are obese. Same with wheelchair service, same with needing two seats - you ever think those people have ALREADY lost weight and are still trying? Ever think that someone who was obese but has lost weight, still has extreme size because plastic surgery for taking away excess skin is freakin' expensive and not considered medically necessary automatically? Ever think those people need to live too?

A) I would LOVE to see one of your supposed marathon runners who is morbidly obese.

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Oh, here's another.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/martinus-evans-slow-af-marathon-1.6876359

And a third.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/05/health/turning-points-mirna-valerio/index.html

B) Dancing and doing other physical activities doesn't guarantee weight loss if you're pounding down 4000-5000 calories a day. Unless you're a high performing athlete maybe. So are they promoting their TRUE lifestyles or just what they want you to see. Are they honestly promoting how much they eat in a day? Doubt it

And since you don't know either, you can't say they aren't. Which goes back to asking you - what is healthy?

3 marathoners who are breaking stereotypes about what runners look like

Insider talked to three athletes who've become advocates, willingly or not, for body diversity and inclusion in the running community.

www.businessinsider.com

Enjoy.

I'm not gonna address then rest of your pathetic dreck because it's clear you missed the point entirely.

No, I didn't.

You made a claim that the Body Positivity Movement has been hijacked.

I agree that some people have taken the ideas and played "I don't care anymore", and explained why.

This isn't about judging people who are morbidly obese,

Yes it absolutely is. Your OP is ALL about judging people who are morbidly obese, for "taking over the Body Positivity Movement" when that isn't true.

it's about morbidly obese women telling other women (and men) who deal with other body positivity issues to fuck off because the body positivity movement isn't for them.

And that's not the complete truth.

It's about morbidly obese women pretending they're perfectly healthy while justifying their unhealthy eating habits and encouraging others to do the same via social media.

That's both true and not true. Yes, there are a very few people who are doing this - again, reasons why given - but those people are nowhere NEAR any kind of majority, they're just loud about their stance and telling people like you to fuck off.

If you can't tell the difference, well that's on you. Righteous rant though, too bad it was off target.

I know the difference.

I fucking live the difference.

The only "off target" here was the point you think you made, vs. the reality of what you really did.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I’ve got a buddy that I used to work with more than a decade to go. On the BMI scale he was morbidly obese…& he also ran about 5% body fat, looked like Michelangelo had chiselled him out of marble, but was about 5’8” tall. Dude had the physique that looked like he should be in spandex and wearing a cape. BMI doesn’t work for those that vary in build from the conventional.

BMI is stupid.
I know I need to ditch about 25 pounds, but I want to be a GQ Model now!

This guy was super dedicated (to a ridiculous extreme), where he would eat 7-8 meals a day (but all pre-portioned, & always the same everyday…where meal four at 12pm is exactly the same as meal four at 12pm 365days/year sort of thing).

Breakfast 1 would happen at 5:30am & he’d get up to an alarm, eat, & go back to sleep for another hour. At 8:30am his alarm would go off & he’d go eat (a tiny pre-portioned meal) & come back, etc…& this would happen all day. Extreme regimentation but with extreme results.

(We both where on the job at 8am)

Evenings where either the gym (traditional gym) 4day/week and Brazilian Jujitsu the other 3days/week….then a life after that, etc…& a back injury took him out of pursuing an advanced level MMA, etc…& this is the guy (5’8”) that with his muscle mass would be morbidity obese according to the BMI thing. He & our Son are working together now (refrigeration techs in HVAC).

 

[Hoof Hearted]

I've got broad shoulders...a jawline chiseled by the Gods.

Unfortunately though, I have skinny legs and my beer belly makes me look like an egg on stilts!

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

This guy was super dedicated (to a ridiculous extreme), where he would eat 7-8 meals a day (but all pre-portioned, & always the same everyday…where meal four at 12pm is exactly the same as meal four at 12pm 365days/year sort of thing).

Breakfast 1 would happen at 5:30am & he’d get up to an alarm, eat, & go back to sleep for another hour. At 8:30am his alarm would go off & he’d go eat (a tiny pre-portioned meal) & come back, etc…& this would happen all day. Extreme regimentation but with extreme results.

(We both where on the job at 8am)

Evenings where either the gym (traditional gym) 4day/week and Brazilian Jujitsu the other 3days/week….then a life after that, etc…& a back injury took him out of pursuing an advanced level MMA, etc…& this is the guy (5’8”) that with his muscle mass would be morbidity obese according to the BMI thing. He & our Son are working together now (refrigeration techs in HVAC).

BMI is stupid because every persons body is different. I knew a guy in the army who was 6' 6", 240 lbs, and had arms as big as my head. But when they brought BMI in they rated him as obese.

 

[Ron in Regina]

BMI is stupid because every persons body is different. I knew a guy in the army who was 6' 6", 240 lbs, and had arms as big as my head. But when they brought BMI in they rated him as obese.

Same thing, but this guy was 20lbs lighter and 10” shorter..