Bob.. any news on Rogers bitcap?

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:p I need to know when I should get ready to dump Rogers cable and internet in favour of satellite tv and some form of other internet access (dsl isnt available in this building for some reason :()
 

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Well since I don't work at Rogers, I can't really answer but they've last said June. And June is coming but I have no clue.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply. It's too bad they are getting really greedy :(

First, they give you a Shaw Wave generation modem, then they don't upgrade their network, they don't maintain their network, they cut your speed in half..... then in half again, then they raise the price again and when you thought their tech support sucked; it gets even worse!
 

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Part of me wants more speed and the lower price and I don't care if Rogers is making money or not. The other part of me just wants the speed back. What Rogers did, is cut the service, raise the price, and provide no options.

Considering the .com implosion, rising prices for bandwidth does not make any sense. For 5-7 years millions of dollars was spent on the broadband telecom infrastructure, then when the whole thing collapsed and investors lost all that money the huge capacity that was built and is not being used suddenly got more expensive?

Does the internet defy the laws of supply and demand??? Bandwidth should be cheaper now then it has ever been.

So the REAL question is "Who's holding all the capacity back in order to artificially inflate prices?"
 

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Hojo said:
Part of me wants more speed and the lower price and I don't care if Rogers is making money or not. The other part of me just wants the speed back. What Rogers did, is cut the service, raise the price, and provide no options.

Considering the .com implosion, rising prices for bandwidth does not make any sense. For 5-7 years millions of dollars was spent on the broadband telecom infrastructure, then when the whole thing collapsed and investors lost all that money the huge capacity that was built and is not being used suddenly got more expensive?

Does the internet defy the laws of supply and demand??? Bandwidth should be cheaper now then it has ever been.

So the REAL question is "Who's holding all the capacity back in order to artificially inflate prices?"

Unfortunately, Rogers is a company who is always wanting more and more and more and more! I personally believe Rogers has been ignoring upgrades hense not having the ability yet to charge for and monitor bandwidth the way Sympatico and some of it's counter-parts around the continent.
 

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When demand is low price goes up, has too in this case as these companies lost 100s of millions in building the infrastructure. And demand is down so they have to up price to try and make their money back.
 

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Bob Carrick said:
When demand is low price goes up, has too in this case as these companies lost 100s of millions in building the infrastructure. And demand is down so they have to up price to try and make their money back.

Huh!?!?!?!?

Do you know how a Free Market economy works?
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The law of supply and demand states that, in a market economy, the forces of supply and demand generally push the price toward the level at which quantity supplied and quantity demanded are equal.
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If there is an overabundance of supply, prices fall in order to stimulate demand. When supply is low, prices rise as it becomes more difficult to meet the demand.

When that is not happening, as in this situation, an external force is manipulating or controlling the market, usually in order to gain an advantage.
 

Bob Carrick

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Except in this case, sorry. There is no excess in supply since they just shut it all down. Costs them nothing, but they still lost millions and ISPs still need it so the price goes up to cover what was lost.
 

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Bob,

You may be a good Moderator I don't know, but it is clear that you have no idea what you are talking about.

You should do some research on the FACTS before you reply in the future.

Enjoy your fantasy Bob.

/exits discussion
 

Bob Carrick

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Right if it was fantasy then why is that exactly what we are seeing in the market place. ISPs are complaining about too high a price from "national" providers and those providers complain about the infrastructure they built that they have had to shut off.

So you tell me where the fantasy is. Demand for residential access is up, but prices and caps continnue to rise, but demand for large pipes is down and yet prices continue to rise their also.