Black Lives Matter-Ugliness of Racism.

Jinentonix

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Direct your anger at the police, not the protesters.
I can direct it at both when BOTH sides are clearly off-base. If the protesters were simply protesting police violence/brutality in general, I'd be right there with them, at least in spirit. But I'm not going to play the stupid game of 'let's pretend this shit only happens to Black people and it's only White cops doing it.'


And for that matter, if anything, people's anger should be directed at the unions and the kind of low-life leftist excrement that allowed them to get so powerful. If unions wanna have sad sacks making cars that's one thing, but protecting cops who have a laundry list of complaints against them from getting fired, well, ultimately it's THEIR responsibility when said cop pulls a Chauvin. To put it bluntly, the police forces are NOT the place for communistic bullshit. But dolts like OB and Hoid will never acknowledge that unions are the primary problem because unions are one of the cornerstones of the left. So they'll go along with the narrative and blame racism because it's the easy, and lazy cop out, pardon the unintended pun. Let me put it this way, isn't a tad racist to assume that just because a White cop killed a Black person it's automatically a case of a racist cop?
 

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and HOW do you propose that Trump goes abut TERMINATING all those people you hate?? Do you want the French CDNS "terminated" too??


White supremesy is getting so old. and rightly so..... A lot of it is a generational thing too. the world/ and society wants more equality and fairness. Some genuine HUMANITY. The world is changing....... so one must adapt or get off. What are you so afraid of?? CHANGE??
Change is the only constant in life. Again: ADAPT. Guns are NOT the answer. I am GLAD to hear that guns are hard to get in CDA. There is enough negative gun mentality to the south of us. THAT is not a society for true quality of life.
And yet Canada ranks third in the civilized world when it comes to private gun ownership. In the US it's estimated there's 90 privately owned firearms for every 100 Americans. In Canada, it's around 60 per 100. It's not the guns.



You're also kind'a funny. Buddy mentions Quebec and you ask if he wants all French-Canadians terminated too, as if they all live in Quebec. Then you get whiny about White supremacy completely clueless that Quebec Nationalism is a form of White supremacy. Do you honestly believe that Official Bilingualism was about bringing the country closer together? :lol: No, it was about giving Quebec unwarranted power just because it's Quebec.


Let me put it this way, prior to Pierre Trudeau, of the 14 PM's we had only 3 were from Quebec. The rest came from all across the country. Since Pierre, of the 8 elected, sitting PM's we've had, 6 have been from Quebec. That's 75% of the PMs since Official Bilingualism coming from Quebec. This is why YOUR PM has said things like, "Canada belongs to Quebec", and "Quebeckers are better than Canadians". Your PM is a Canadian-hating Quebec Nationalist with a history of cultural appropriation and wearing Black face and yet you've posted how many anti-Trump threads in here now? And now this one about BLM and racism? Maybe you should be concerned about the dog shit in our backyard before worrying about the dog shit in America's back yard. But I guess that depends on if you're truly anti-racist and anti-authoritarian govt or not. Let me ask you this. I know you're pretty much anti-gun and you like Canada's gun laws but, do you approve of how the most recent gun law was "passed"?
 

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I can direct it at both when BOTH sides are clearly off-base. If the protesters were simply protesting police violence/brutality in general, I'd be right there with them, at least in spirit. But I'm not going to play the stupid game of 'let's pretend this shit only happens to Black people and it's only White cops doing it.'
So, your position is that Black people and White people are treated exactly the same by cops, and there is no racism or racial discrimination in America?
 

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So, your position is that Black people and White people are treated exactly the same by cops, and there is no racism or racial discrimination in America?
Nope, not at all. But if you look at the stats over the last 20 years, White cops have killed fewer Black people, and other people of colour in general, than non-White cops.
Here's the irony with the police issue of unwarranted violence on "minorities". Back in the day it was generally a case of racism and that's where the roots of it really began. But it has "evolved". The prevailing attitude within the system regarding systemic abuse at the hands of SOME cops is a pre-existing condition from the days of systemic racism within the police. It's now generally become accepted behaviour to abuse the general public regardless of race. Well, accepted behaviour by the all too powerful unions anyway.



In another thread I erred when I said Tony Timpa was killed by cops 10 months ago, it happened in 2016, I was thinking of something else that happened. In any case, he was killed in pretty much the same manner as George Floyd. But here's there thing and here's why it's starting to piss me off. In Tony's case, the cops' behaviour (including laughing at him as he died) was passed off as nothing more than "excited delirium". Yet with NO proof of any kind whatsoever, Chauvin is accused of racism and every leftist, every personality that wants to still have a job, porn sites, game sites and god knows who else is just going out of their way to virtue signal like a motherf*cker about racism because unlike Tony, George's death absolutely, positively 100% for sure had nothing to do with "excited delirium" and everything to do with racism.
As a lawyer, what do you think the chances of any of the 4 idiots involved in George's murder getting a fair trial? Especially if any of them are charged with some sort of hate crime.
 

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Nope, not at all. But if you look at the stats over the last 20 years, White cops have killed fewer Black people, and other people of colour in general, than non-White cops.
Here's the irony with the police issue of unwarranted violence on "minorities". Back in the day it was generally a case of racism and that's where the roots of it really began. But it has "evolved". The prevailing attitude within the system regarding systemic abuse at the hands of SOME cops is a pre-existing condition from the days of systemic racism within the police. It's now generally become accepted behaviour to abuse the general public regardless of race. Well, accepted behaviour by the all too powerful unions anyway.
In another thread I erred when I said Tony Timpa was killed by cops 10 months ago, it happened in 2016. I was thinking of something else that happened. In any case, he was killed in pretty much the same manner as George Floyd. But here's there thing and here's why it's starting to piss me off. In Tony's case, the cops' behaviour (including laughing at him as he died) was passed off as nothing more than "excited delirium". Yet with NO proof of any kind whatsoever, Chauvin is accused of racism and every leftist, every personality that wants to still have a job, porn sites, game sites and god knows who else is just going out of their way to virtue signal like a motherf*cker about racism because unlike Tony, George's death absolutely, positively 100% for sure had nothing to do with "excited delirium" and everything to do with racism.
As a lawyer, what do you think the chances of any of the 4 idiots involved in George's murder getting a fair trial? Especially if any of them are charged with some sort of hate crime.
Shh, progs gonna get upset with facts that go against their virtue signalling.
 

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All lives don't matter when an unarmed White guy is suffocated to death by cops after being detained.


All lives don't matter when 11 kids a day (in the US) are being killed by idiots texting and driving.


All lives don't matter when you won't let people work and support their families because of a virus but it's okay to gather by the thousands to protest something. As long as you don't yell.


All lives don't matter when a Black looter decides that a used TV is worth another Black man's life.


And as for BLM, they need to change their name to OSBLM; Only Some Black Lives Matter.
 

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Nope, not at all. But if you look at the stats over the last 20 years, White cops have killed fewer Black people, and other people of colour in general, than non-White cops.
Are you looking at the stats that Black people are less than 1/7 of the population? It's the rate, not the total, that counts.
Here's the irony with the police issue of unwarranted violence on "minorities". Back in the day it was generally a case of racism and that's where the roots of it really began. But it has "evolved". The prevailing attitude within the system regarding systemic abuse at the hands of SOME cops is a pre-existing condition from the days of systemic racism within the police. It's now generally become accepted behaviour to abuse the general public regardless of race. Well, accepted behaviour by the all too powerful unions anyway.
Here's the other irony. In 2006, the FBI released a report on the increasing infiltration of American police forces by white supremacists. The FBI. Not BLM, not the Democratic National Committee, not Antifa. The Federal Bureau of Investigation. And not Obama's DoJ or FBI. George W. Bush was president in 2006. Alberto Gonzalez was Attorney General. Robert Mueller was the Director of the FBI. Both lifelong Republicans.

Here's a link to the report: http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/402521/doc-26-white-supremacist-infiltration.pdf


In another thread I erred when I said Tony Timpa was killed by cops 10 months ago, it happened in 2016, I was thinking of something else that happened. In any case, he was killed in pretty much the same manner as George Floyd. But here's there thing and here's why it's starting to piss me off. In Tony's case, the cops' behaviour (including laughing at him as he died) was passed off as nothing more than "excited delirium". Yet with NO proof of any kind whatsoever, Chauvin is accused of racism and every leftist, every personality that wants to still have a job, porn sites, game sites and god knows who else is just going out of their way to virtue signal like a motherf*cker about racism because unlike Tony, George's death absolutely, positively 100% for sure had nothing to do with "excited delirium" and everything to do with racism.
Not just Tony Timpa. The killing of John Geer was shocking. The killing of Daniel Shaver was an out-and-out murder committed by a psychotic, on bodycam. He was acquitted anyway. Look 'em up.

And that argument is worthless. It's argument by anecdote. You are basically asserting as a thesis that if ANY whites are killed by police, there CANNOT be racial factors in police killings.

Well, White people were lynched in the late 1800s, early 1900s. By your alleged logic, therefore there was no racism involved in the lynching of Black people.

But I appreciate this paragraph. It helps clarify for me the thinking of a certain kind of people.
As a lawyer, what do you think the chances of any of the 4 idiots involved in George's murder getting a fair trial? Especially if any of them are charged with some sort of hate crime.

In the first place, I don't think it will go to trial. If it does, I think it's a pretty fair chance.

Watch the video of "Mitch" Brailsford killing Daniel Shavers. And remember that Brailsford was acquitted.
 

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Study: Body Camera Footage Reveals Officers Speak More Respectfully To Whites Than Blacks

STANFORD (CBS SF) — The odds of hearing a police officer say “thank you,” or utter an apology during a routine traffic stop in Oakland are much higher for a white driver than a black driver.
New research from Stanford examines the level of respect Oakland officers show through the way they speak to whites and blacks in the community. After examining body camera footage from hundreds of traffic stops, researchers found whites were accorded far more respect than blacks for similar infractions.
The study is the first of its kind and comes during an era of heightened awareness due to the proliferation of video recordings capturing the police shootings of unarmed black people across the nation. Oakland Police Department deals with a racially diverse community fraught with historical tensions. The department intends to use the data to help comply with a court-ordered mandate to reform.
In Oakland, officers turn on their cameras before each stop and keep them running for the duration. The Stanford team, comprised of linguists, psychologists and computer scientists, developed special software that examined the transcripts of 981 OPD traffic stops in a single month, scouring them for racial inequalities. The findings were published in the June edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America.
The results reveal that white drivers are 57 percent more likely than black residents to hear a police officer say the most respectful utterances, such as apologies and expressions of gratitude like “thank you.” Conversely, black drivers were 61 percent more likely to be disrespected with, for example, informal titles like “dude”, and “bro,” or commands to keep their “hands on the wheel.”


More: https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/06/05/police-body-camera-study-respect-whites-blacks


More Duuuh!
 

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Why is there Black injustice in a city run by a Black mayor that hold the reins to the police force? Is she fighting for the resistance or her tax base when she declared BLM square and painted it as such?
Like how a Native police chief in Regina helped push us to #1 in violent and property crimes?

Those were the days.
 

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Study: Body Camera Footage Reveals Officers Speak More Respectfully To Whites Than Blacks
STANFORD (CBS SF) — The odds of hearing a police officer say “thank you,” or utter an apology during a routine traffic stop in Oakland are much higher for a white driver than a black driver.
New research from Stanford examines the level of respect Oakland officers show through the way they speak to whites and blacks in the community. After examining body camera footage from hundreds of traffic stops, researchers found whites were accorded far more respect than blacks for similar infractions.
The study is the first of its kind and comes during an era of heightened awareness due to the proliferation of video recordings capturing the police shootings of unarmed black people across the nation. Oakland Police Department deals with a racially diverse community fraught with historical tensions. The department intends to use the data to help comply with a court-ordered mandate to reform.
In Oakland, officers turn on their cameras before each stop and keep them running for the duration. The Stanford team, comprised of linguists, psychologists and computer scientists, developed special software that examined the transcripts of 981 OPD traffic stops in a single month, scouring them for racial inequalities. The findings were published in the June edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America.
The results reveal that white drivers are 57 percent more likely than black residents to hear a police officer say the most respectful utterances, such as apologies and expressions of gratitude like “thank you.” Conversely, black drivers were 61 percent more likely to be disrespected with, for example, informal titles like “dude”, and “bro,” or commands to keep their “hands on the wheel.”
More: https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/06/05/police-body-camera-study-respect-whites-blacks
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Ever been on a ride along in a city? Is there even the remotest possibility that when doing road stops in Oakland it's far more likely for the cops to be assaulted, ran from or shot at than pulling over blacks in Marin driving a BMW 850?

Maybe if violence against cops hadn't skyrocketed in the past 20 years they'd be more likely to greet you with a summons in hand than pull out an S&W 9mm? They will be the cops you expect them to be if you arent a shithead. You get back what you put out. I havent had to deal with cops for 25 years because I havent done stupid shit or let my vehicle maintenance lapse.

You'll never get pulled over for a burned out 75 cent tag light if you spend 75 cents to replace it. Is it worth the $120, the points loss on insurance or God forbid roughed up because you were a shithead and decided it's not your fault you cant scrape up 75 cents, it's just a tag light and you're a taxpayer paying their salary and you have Rights, you're special and everyone else is a loser because they respect the laws and keep their vehicles up to safety spec for the benefit of all.

Black or white, fix that light, leave your yoyo gangbanger drugs, fowties, guns gang colors and loud mouth bitch attitude at home and you get the respect you deserve bro or dude or Mr or Ms.