Bad news for the Tin Foil Club.

[blogbart]

Planes hit the WTC

The lunatic straw men fringe are out of their cages I see. Obviously, whoever started this thread doesn't have the slightest clue of what they are talking about because any reasonable person would understand that serious 911 Truth advocates are not questioning whether or not planes hit the WTC.

Yes, sadly remains of victims of the heinous acts perpetrated on Sept 11 2001 are still to be found. And, yes, sadder still is that the remains are of people on the jets crashed into the towers who may not have had to die if the government agencies had taken precautions against the widely known and credible threats that airliners were going to be used in some type of attack in and about the time frame of 911. But for some reason, all those trying to get this information out were stymied from the highest levels of government.

 

[wallyj]

I have not replied to any CT's for a while now because it is so frustrating.Every time one of thier pet theories is shown to be a sham they reply with another. It is negative thinking in more ways than one.If you cannot prove the gov't was not behind the attacks then they must have been. My sister lost someone close to her that day.It makes my blood boil to hear this gov't conspiracy crap go on and on.THE MOFO"S THAT HATE US DID IT AND THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN UNLESS THEY ARE STOPPED NOW> YOU A_HOLES THAT EXCUSE THIER MURDEROUS WAYS ARE NOT ANY BETTER> ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE WHO CARES ABOUT LIFE AND FREEDOM<GO F**K YOURSELVES>. You do not deserve the right to speak your mind because you do not appreciate it.

 

[Cosmo]

wallyj ... feel better now that you got that out?

What are you so pissed off about? We all have a right to an opinion and a right to state that opinion. Nobody says you have to agree with everything you read here ... in fact it is HIGHLY recommended that you do NOT. Make up your own mind. We're all grown ups and capable of separating the chaff from the grain. Well, most of us, at least.

No one has disrespected the victims of 9-11 -- at least not in any thread I've read. Seems that is the one thing we all agree on ... tin foil hatters, lefties, righties, neo-cons ... the loss of life in that act of terrorism was tragic. Period. No one is arguing that.

I think, though, that a discussion of how something like that could be avoided in future is a productive conversation. That's where the differences lie ... in our view of how to prevent it from happening again. I'm not of the "kill em all and let god sort em out" school -- or at least not when it comes to entire socieities. I don't think the innocent should be picking up the tab for the crazies. It seems to me that the real topic is about how to stop the madness without forgetting the folks that died.

 

[wallyj]

Everytime someone blames the states about 9/11 instead of the murderers that did this it is showing disrespect. You are saying that it was a tragedy and everyone agrees.. How would you feel if your mum was butchered and the person that did it was homeless and then someone came up to you and said " Hey this is why we should support the NDP? You are a conservative so it is your fault,maybe Harper did it to instigate a crackdown on the homeless." We can avoid this in the future by education and by recognizing that there are evil people in the world,not by wishing everyone was like me.

 

[gopher]

Perhaps it would alleviate some of the argument here if someone could show just who precisely said that the WTC was taken down by a missile. I looked but couldn't find any such allegation by anyone here.

 

[blogbart]

Everytime someone blames the states about 9/11 instead of the murderers that did this it is showing disrespect. You are saying that it was a tragedy and everyone agrees.. How would you feel if your mum was butchered and the person that did it was homeless and then someone came up to you and said " Hey this is why we should support the NDP? You are a conservative so it is your fault,maybe Harper did it to instigate a crackdown on the homeless." We can avoid this in the future by education and by recognizing that there are evil people in the world,not by wishing everyone was like me.

It makes MY blood boil to listen to people like you lump everything into one big ball and label it "conspiracy theory".

wallyj, if you pay attention to what the serious 911 Truth movement has to say, you will understand that they are not absolving the 19 purported hijackers of their complicity in the event. They were recruited, trained and used in the attacks. I for one, am happy that they died in the attacks. However, even if you can't get your head around WTC controlled demolitions, why aren't you all over the well documented official obfuscation and protection of the hijackers prior to the event and the lack of appropriate warnings about these well known and serious threats of terrorists using planes and/or planning to attack, as then CIA Director George Tenant said "the system was blinking red". For crying out loud, Bush had NIE that was titled "Bin Laden determined to attack inside US". If nothing else your outrage should be directed at the people in the US government who were in a position to have done something that may have prevented the attacks from happening. But there is lots of information that they let it slide to get what they wanted, a terrorist attack which would help launch their aggressive agenda.

I believe that there was more than just letting it happen, because there are so many unanswered questions about links of the hijackers to US military, to CIA and Pak intelligence. The Bin Laden relationship to the Bushes and Saudi gov has just been swept under the rug. The fact that FBI, CIA whistleblowers were all shut down, fired and hung out to dry for trying to bring the threat to attention, that the response on 911 was so poor, that Cheney and military brass have been caught in lies about where they were and what they were doing, Bush's absurd behaviour in Florida reading the Pet Goat book, it goes on and on .... and your blood boils because people dare to point out these things?

If your indigation is in earnest, I urge you in the strongest possible way to forget about WTC controlled demolitions and dig into the rest of it. Even if the US administratiuon, government, intelligence agences and military were all so utterly incompetent before and on 911, then your outrage should be directed at them, because by all accounts and from what we've seen they are still as incompetent.