Arafat In French Hospital

[LadyC]

This writer is Jewish. What do you expect him to write.

And that's what it all boils down to, isn't it?

I agree with just the facts - it's not so very unusual for a 75 year old man to die. It happens every day.

But... I eagerly await your reaction when Sharon dies - will you suspect foul play there, too?

 

[moghrabi]

Yes it is very usual for a 75 year old person to die. But when Arafat went to Paris, Israel was already preparing his funeral site, they were aware that he is not coming back and so on. They declared his death just after making and agreement that they will allow him to be buried in the West Bank.

Let's face it. He was poisoned.

When Sharon dies it will not be foul play. It will be God taking revenge with his own hand.

 

[LadyC]

Hard to argue with that sort of logic.

 

[moghrabi]

Row Continues Over Mystery Cause of Arafat’s Death

Arab News

JEDDAH, 14 November 2004 — Pressure is growing on the French government to order the military authorities to publish full details of the death of Yasser Arafat, amid persistent speculation about the causes of his fatal illness.

“We are not authorized to provide any further information,” a spokesman for the Percy Military Hospital, in Clamart, southwest of Paris, where Arafat died said in a telephone interview yesterday. “If there is any additional information it will be communicated to the family of the deceased.”

The five-line communiqué issued by the hospital Thursday did not mention the cause of Arafat’s death. This was in violation of French law that forbids the issuing of a death certificate without specifying the cause of death.

French diplomatic sources say they do not know why there was such an omission. But they insist that the brief communiqué had been written and authorized in close consultation with Arafat’s wife Suha and his nephew Nasser Al-Quddwah. It seems that the two, for unknown reasons, did not want the cause of death to be stated in the communiqué.

Meanwhile, Arab media are full of reports concerning various attempts by the Israeli secret services Mossad to poison Arafat in Ramallah. One story taken by several Arabic newspapers claims that Arafat had employed a special taster to check his food before he ate it. That, of course, would not exclude slow poisoning over a long period, something that could not be checked by a taster on the spot.

Another story is built around an alleged plot to poison Arafat through the official papers that he handled every day.

Most of the late leader’s senior aides, including Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath and special adviser Muhammad Rashid have excluded the possibility of poisoning. But none have been able to state the cause of death, admitting that they have no information on the subject.

Arafat’s personal physician for 22 years D. Ashraf Al Kurd has publicly called for an investigation into the causes of death, and criticized the French authorities for what he terms “strange attitude.” The question remain: Who wants to keep the cause of Arafat’s death a secret and why?

http://www.aljazeerah.info/News arc...inues Over Mystery Cause of Arafats Death.htm

 

[LadyC]

Another story is built around an alleged plot to poison Arafat through the official papers that he handled every day.

Wasn't that the plot from Umberto Eco's "The Name of the Rose"? Those monks died from licking their fingers while turning the pages of the books they were transcribing.

Did anyone think to check the colour of the tip of his tongue? If it was black, that's a dead giveaway.

 

[Rick van Opbergen]

This writer is Jewish. What do you expect him to write.

Does this fall into the same category as: "like Usama bin Laden, Al Jazeera is rooted in the Arab world, must be a terrorist news source"? Oh wait, that one contains no logic ... seriously moghrabi, with such statements, it's hard to proceed with a constructive discussion. But than again, it's hard for me to understand what we are discussing - this is and will be mere speculation until the French government gives us more details concerning Arafat's cause of death.

 

[moghrabi]

It has been my opinion that he was poisioned. I believe that. You might have a different theory.

Have you read other articles written by this guy. He is known to be anti-arab. Same as Al-Jazeera is onesided.

Arafat's Physician Seeks Exhumation


Politics: 13 November 2004, Saturday.

Yasser Arafat's Jordanian physician demanded an autopsy of the body due to the unclear reasons for the Palestinian leader's death.

"One of the causes of platelet deficiency is poison," said Ashraf al-Kurdi's, who examined Arafat before he was taken to Paris.

Although "not definitive, I believe the highest reason for Arafat's mysterious death is poisoning," al-Kurdi said.

"Therefore, there should be an autopsy performed," added the Jordanian neurologist.

Gen. Christian Estripeau, spokesperson at the French hospital where Arafat was treated, would not comment.

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=41498

 

[Rick van Opbergen]

Have you read other articles written by this guy. He is known to be anti-arab. Same as Al-Jazeera is onesided.

I don't care whether he is anti-Arab or not. I made a comment about your remark because you immediately link his style of writing, his opinions, with "he is Jewish"; that being Jewish is a reason to write such articles.

 

[moghrabi]

Of course. I have few of his articles, they are very slanted. He is anti-Arab. It happens that he is Jewish.

Yes I do link his remarks, his opinions with being Jewish. Is this called anti-semetic?

 

[Rick van Opbergen]

Yes, it is. You insinuate it is part of "a Jew" to be anti-Arab, as you link the autor being Jewish with "what do you expect him to write?" I call that anti-Semitism.

 

[moghrabi]

Well I am not afraid of what I say. I am fed up of being carefull when calling some Jews for what they are. Enough sucking up to them. I do not know why the whole world is scared of them.

Now not all Jews are bad. I am against the Zionists like the author in this article. He is well known for his remarks and I stand by what I said about him. If this is anti-semitic, then be it.

 

[Rick van Opbergen]

You don't understand my point moghrabi. Let's give another example. Some time ago, an emam here said it was right to kill gays. What would you think about the following conversation: "He [the emam] said it's right to kill gays". Reply: "He's muslim, what do you expect him to say?" The Jewish comminity is not solely comprimised out of Zionists; not every Zionist is even the same; when you say "The writer is Jewish. What do you expect him to write?" you suggest that it's a part of the so-called "Jewish character" to be anti-Arab. I deny that. And I think it's disturbing that you do not see any difference between "the Jew" and "the Zionist".

 

[moghrabi]

I said that I am against Zionists. This Arab Imam needs his head twisted a little. He is a bigot.

There are a lot of Muslims who are bigots. And also Christians and Jews. But my point here is that the writer is "Zionist". Maybe I misspoke and wrote he is a Jew. My apologies.

 

[Rick van Opbergen]

You don't have to comment about the Imam, I was just trying to give an example, I don't agree what is said by the way. You don't have to comment about bigots in Islam, Christianity, Judaism whatsoever, I know that .