An Inconvenient Truth

[#juan]

We know about the increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. We know that the levels of carbon dioxide and mean temperatures on this planet have been rising since the industrial revolution. The increased temperatures have become more dramatic over the last fifty years. We know that every year for more than the last dozen years has been the warmest on record. We can see the recession of the glaciers on every continent. The glaciers were formed from snow and ice over thousands of years, and they are almost gone. We can see that polar bears have to swim many miles to get to the ice pack where their food is, and that these bears are dying. We can easily prove that global warming is happening.

The worst thing about global warming, is that some doughheads think that trying to reverse global warming will hurt the economy. I don't know why it should. There would be more jobs. It would only hurt the economy if no other country was doing it. The good thing about Kyoto was that a hundred and eighty countries signed on.

 

[CDNBear]

We know about the increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. We know that the levels of carbon dioxide and mean temperatures on this planet have been rising since the industrial revolution. The increased temperatures have become more dramatic over the last fifty years. We know that every year for more than the last dozen years has been the warmest on record. We can see the recession of the glaciers on every continent. The glaciers were formed from snow and ice over thousands of years, and they are almost gone. We can see that polar bears have to swim many miles to get to the ice pack where their food is, and that these bears are dying. We can easily prove that global warming is happening.

The worst thing about global warming, is that some doughheads think that trying to reverse global warming will hurt the economy. I don't know why it should. There would be more jobs. It would only hurt the economy if no other country was doing it. The good thing about Kyoto was that a hundred and eighty countries signed on.

#Juan, seriously, I can not possibly agree with you on all your points. Your first paragraph, was spot on, and the reason we should act. Your second, well you're partly right. Yes more jobs would be created, in "developing nations" as they migrated from the West to these nations outside the perview of the protocol.

I have never said we should not address and begin the reversal of the damage. I have only stated that the Kyoto Protocol was flawed, based on junk science and and invalid document because of that.

I can not believe for one minute you would support putting Canada in a depression over a flawed arguement. You have proven to me, to be far more intelegent then that. But that is exactly what you are asking the country to do. The accord as it was writen and as it laid out what our course of action was to be, would have killed major industries. In essence driven unemployment through the roof and sent our economy spiraling downward. I hate selling out to big corparations as much as you, but realisticaly, we have no choice. People have to live and find a better way to begin the healing of the environment as well. One should not negate the other.

 

[#juan]

Here we go with "junk science" again. The biggest cause of global warming is that we are pumping carbon dioxide into our atmosphere in greater volumes than ever before, and that is causing the greenhouse effect. We have ways to measure the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere over many years and most of it is high school physics. There are other things that add to global warming but the CO2 is the main culprit.

Talk about the economy is useless because we know nothing will be done until global warming starts to hurt, and cost money. I don't think that is too far off.