The SS had at least one Jewish division and many Jewish officers. Goggle it and you'll get some pictures.
Alleged SS Auschwitz guard arrested in Germany
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The SS had at least one Jewish division and many Jewish officers. Goggle it and you'll get some pictures.
KM is absorbing a lot of Bad Karma- Much like a Sin Eater.
KM is absorbing a lot of Bad Karma- Much like a Sin Eater.
I am sure they did volunteer. Kids 10 years old also volunteered to be in the Hitler youth. Volunteering in Nazi Germany is slightly different than it is today as you don't die if you don't today.
Let him have his trial. If he is truly innocent, he will be found not guilty. Even if he is guilty he still may be found not guilty (like OJ). To me if the charges were as baseless as claimed here, it would have been dismissed at the preliminary hearing.
Even if he is guilty of being a guard, I don't see what good it serves to expand their prosecution to that at this stage of the game.
It is precisely because of the state of the game that we hear of alleged nazi crimes. The game is threatening to be over for many important players, so we will hear "gay marriage" while New York burns and "nazi's" as Paris revolts and "schoolyard bullying" as children are abducted for the tastes of the perverted elite and of course more interrupted sporting events.
So at what age should we stop following due process? If they are over 90, let alleged criminals run free?
I don't think his age should be a factor.
His age is incidental to the fact that expanding the scope of the prosecution to include anyone peripheral to the crimes at this stage of the game seems questionable.
It seems ridiculous to do this to this man who was a guard and they don't even know if he killed anyone. I think we need to look at the big picture and what can be accomplished because of it.
And yes if they are over 90 and it is not known for a certainty that they are guilty, do not proceed because if they are NOT guilty you have robbed them of their last few months of years.
How far or how close does someone have to be for charges to be warranted or not. The laws have changed. After WW2 many major War Criminals were easily found. No one wanted to prosecute them.
SS troops entered Canada as legal immigrants after the war- they destroyed the tattoo that ID them as such. Easily noted- easily found.
SS blood group tattoo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sorry, that excuse don't work. Since it's impossible to know whether they are guilty without a trial, your statement amounts to "No person over 90 should be prosecuted."
And THAT, morons, is "semantics."
(That wasn't directed at you, Sal, that was to all the imbeciles who say "semantics" with contempt. Since semantics is the study of words and meanings, those who denigrate semantics are simple blowhards who are insufficiently intelligent or educated to articulate their ideas (such as they are).)
The law used to bring this guy to trial was The Israeli Nazi and Nazi Collaborators (Punishment) Law of 1950 which was originally introduced with the principal purpose of prosecuting Jewish collaborators with the Nazis..
"What's this" you say? Jews who starved, manipulated and killed Jews in the camps?
"The concentration camp system owed its stability in no small way to a cadre of kapos, who took over the daily operations of the camp, relieving the SS personnel. Thus, absolute power was ubiquitous. Without the delegation of power, the system of discipline and supervision would have promptly disintegrated. The rivalry over supervisory, administrative and warehouse functionary jobs was, for the SS, just a welcome opportunity to pit groups of prisoners against each other and keep them dependent. The normal prisoner, however, was at the mercy of a dual authority, the SS, who often hardly seemed to be at the camp, and the prisoner functionaries, who were always there."
—Eugen Kogon, concentration camp survivor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapo_(concentration_camp)
you are right, not all were found or prosecuted. I know of someone who found nazi pictures of her father after her mother died. All tucked away. He was Hitler youth and she knew that and he was taken captive and kept in a POW camp but seriously to see your dad in an SS uniform...not cool. So yeah I might look at this in a slightly different way because nothing is black and white. I never saw the pictures but she was some freaked out.
I just think this thing is done and there are other atrocities that we can be outraged about that have long been buried. I doubt he will make it through a trial. It would be interesting to hear what some of the survivors have to say about this. They do not always view things in the same way as the general public when they have been directly involved.
One of my neighbours was a German Jew. She had the tattoo. She was a wonderful lady, and she'd sit with me and speak German, and correct and improve me (her German was exquisite). I will never forgive, never forget, the people who put her in a concentration camp. To hell with them, preferably at the end of a rope.
Yes I worked in retail for years for a Jewish family. Many of the clients then were Jews and I recall the horror I felt when i saw my first tattoo.
It's very emotional. I also grew up in a home with parents who came through the war and it was discussed continually and there were Holocaust pictures around so I grew up with the knowledge of the horror. Everyone processes differently.
they even look scary
Nah. That's like being scared of a cop who has somebody else pulled over. It just one of those things behind the pageant of imagery and the mind.
To be honest, I don't think there has ever been finer dressed officers than the SS but is that reason enough to go after Hugo Boss and the likes too while they're at it or does he get a pass for using kosher cow leather instead of suede?
That is how silly it is to go after a cook.
okay let me reexamine the uniforms... maybe what it represents just plays on my mind and I am not seeing them rationally. I'll try to look at the uniform through Petros eyes.
He states he was a cook- No evidence that he was or was not. So to state he was a cook without evidence is not Kosher.
How about dropping napalm on innocent women and children? Destroying whole villages? Destroying the infrastructure of an entire country on the premise of getting one man?