Another CPC broken promise on its way to Senate
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Basically it's the old "give us your wealth and we'll give back what we think you deserve", minus what they need to buy votes in Quebec.
IMO that's pretty close but I'd tread lightly around that whole "deserve" thing. The more I think about it the more I think the flip-flop was about tilting the competitive advantage to those regions that already got the break they needed and don't need it any more. The lack of outcry out of Alberta is fascinating.
btw, according the Decima the vote buying didn't work.
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Hell yeah,I am with you on this one. When does Alberta stop supporting the rest of Canada? High time for the " Republic of Alberta". And just to show you that we are fair.we will give you our aboriginals,salt of the earth,one with nature people. Enjoy.
I knew a remark like that out of you was only a matter of time.
"Alberta" doesn't support the rest of Canada. Anyone who understands the numbers is well aware the money being redistributed does not exceed the above average portion of the higher end of the federal progressive tax system. Rich people's money. And now they have the likes of you trained well enough to begrudge other regions the same set of breaks the Alberta provincial government recieved back in 1967.
no sense of history = no sense of responsibility
and btw, the correct objective response is that Alberta doesn't recieve payments so for that province the inclusion of non-renewable resources in the formula doesn't matter.
but that doesn't explain why Stelmach isn't going to bat against it like Klein always did anyways, even up to the end.
but that doesn't explain why Stelmach isn't going to bat against it like Klein always did anyways, even up to the end.
Why would Harper care about the exodus of Maritimers to Alberta where they need the workers. If Atlantic Canada got a fair deal and it's young people were able to get jobs and stay at home it would mean economic problems for his home province.
Because it going to cost Alberta another boatload of one-way tickets to get rid of them when the market tops out, but that's another part of the story.;-)
That'll be Alberta's loss, all the Maritimers there finally give the province some character.:lol:
Until that well came in at Leduc in 1947, Alberta had been a "have not" province that received money from the federal government's balance of payments program for ten years or so. Now that the price of oil has climbed to high levels, Some are calling for separation.....forgetting completely that the rest of Canada helped to put food on their tables for that ten years or so. Great Canadians eh....:angryfire:
Re: Budget to the Senate
As some honourable senators have suggested, the time may be coming for the Senate of Canada to exercise one of its extraordinary powers—the right and prerogative to outright reject a federal budget. It seems, to me, to be the most logical course of action—if senators defeat a budget, then the Government of Canada is not defeated and may continue to sit—but, the Government would need to introduce a new budget in a new session. This is exactly what Canadians need—the defeat of the budget, the proroguation of the legislature, and a new, fresh, and progressive legislative agenda come this Autumn.
I can only hope that The Honourable Senator Céline Hervieux-Payette P.C. (Bedford), the Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition in the Senate, has the courage and conviction to stand by honourable senators in defeating this shameful budget. The Government needs to be kicked back to the drawing board.
As some honourable senators have suggested, the time may be coming for the Senate of Canada to exercise one of its extraordinary powers—the right and prerogative to outright reject a federal budget. It seems, to me, to be the most logical course of action—if senators defeat a budget, then the Government of Canada is not defeated and may continue to sit—but, the Government would need to introduce a new budget in a new session. This is exactly what Canadians need—the defeat of the budget, the proroguation of the legislature, and a new, fresh, and progressive legislative agenda come this Autumn.
I can only hope that The Honourable Senator Céline Hervieux-Payette P.C. (Bedford), the Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition in the Senate, has the courage and conviction to stand by honourable senators in defeating this shameful budget. The Government needs to be kicked back to the drawing board.
Looks like Saskatchewan Premier Lorne Calvert is going to take the federal conservatives to the courts over this budget too. How the PM of such a slim minority government thinks he can be so autocratic and still survive is beyond me. Wonder what the conservative response to all this will be, more attack adds on Dion?
I wonder how it will play in Quebec if a Liberal dominated senate defeats the budget out right. This is the federal budget that allows the Quebec Liberals to cut taxes by 750 million. If the conservatives can engineer an election on the issue (difficult given bill C-16). But let's say it happens. A summer election forced on Canada by unelected Liberal senators. It's likely the conservatives could use that to gain a few seats in Quebec.
Well here's one Albertan who thinks royalty payments need to be hiked a whole lot and we'd better start writing cheques to the R.O.C., all in the interest of fair play and keeping the family happy.
Sincerely,
Pangloss
Sincerely,
Pangloss
What does Alberta get on a barrel now, $4? That doesn't seem fair for a commodity that's been up over $70. Maybe Harper should spend more time trying to get a better deal for our natural resources, instead of caving to southern interests.
Cobalt;
From what I understand, even Sweden get more for its oil. This is a shame and a disgrace.
Pangloss
From what I understand, even Sweden get more for its oil. This is a shame and a disgrace.
Pangloss
So it's not just the farmers and the ranchers getting fleeced, when did we Canadians become sheep.:-?