Mary Magdalene

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Could 'somebody' supply some support for that opinion about Mary Magdalene being a harlot, like a verse?

The Bible would indicate that there was another Mary that Jesus loved and that Mary was most likely a disciple of John the Baptist and she is the most likely candidate for being the author of all 4 books that bear the name of John plus Revelation. She is also the beloved disciple.

2Jo:1:1:
The elder unto the elect lady and her children,
whom I love in the truth;
and not I only,
but also all they that have known the truth;
2Jo:1:2:
For the truth's sake,
which dwelleth in us,
and shall be with us for ever.
2Jo:1:3:
Grace be with you,
mercy,
and peace,
from God the Father,
and from the Lord Jesus Christ,
the Son of the Father,
in truth and love.
2Jo:1:4:
I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth,
as we have received a commandment from the Father.
2Jo:1:5:
And now I beseech thee,
lady,
not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee,
but that which we had from the beginning,
that we love one another.
2Jo:1:6:
And this is love,
that we walk after his commandments.
This is the commandment,
That,
as ye have heard from the beginning,
ye should walk in it.

 

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Could 'somebody' supply some support for that opinion about Mary Magdalene being a harlot, like a verse?

The Bible would indicate that there was another Mary that Jesus loved and that Mary was most likely a disciple of John the Baptist and she is the most likely candidate for being the author of all 4 books that bear the name of John plus Revelation. She is also the beloved disciple.
it.

Later I'll answer you. No, Mary is not the author of any of St. John's books. It is by considered opinion by the Church and its theologians that the author of John's books was, surprise surprise, John himself;-)

 

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Later I'll answer you. No, Mary is not the author of any of St. John's books. It is by considered opinion by the Church and its theologians that the author of John's books was, surprise surprise, John himself;-)

From the Gospel of John here is the order in which Jesus gained followers.
The first two were disciples of John, one is named the other is not. Andrew then goes to find his brother Simon Peter. The next follower is Philip followed by Nathanael. So far that is a total of 5, but no mention of James or John, any account mentioning them is that they become followers at the same time.

The book of John covers some events not mentioned in the other three Gospels, they pick up the story after John the Baptist is in prison,

M't:4:12:
Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison,
he departed into Galilee;
M't:4:21:
And going on from thence,
he saw other two brethren,
James the son of Zebedee,
and John his brother,
in a ship with Zebedee their father,
mending their nets;
and he called them.

Anything before this verse (and some things after) was witnessed by somebody, the one disciple of John (whose name is not given)is the most likely person.

There is more but no sense going too fast with this.

 

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I guess the thing is....why does it matter?

 

[MHz]

I guess the thing is....why does it matter?

The words written are just as true, so in that regard nothing. It certainly makes watching the de vinci code (or other shows like that) more exciting.
If they can't figure out which Mary Jesus loved the rest of their program is in error. The same goes to the authors of 'prophecy books', if they can't figure out who the 'beloved disciple' is then why even bother trying to tackle the 'more difficult aspects of Scripture'?

I would put the most important aspect as being these 5 books would then become attributed to John the Baptist in that it was one of his disciples that was 'commissioned' to follow Jesus and write down what was observed. Every word would then be attributed to a Prophet from God (which is what John was) rather than an Apostle of Jesus. The Jews who do not believe in the NT could not (or should not) reject those books, they should hold as much authority with them as any book from the OT.

 

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From the Gospel of John here is the order in which Jesus gained followers.
The first two were disciples of John, one is named the other is not. Andrew then goes to find his brother Simon Peter. The next follower is Philip followed by Nathanael. So far that is a total of 5, but no mention of James or John, any account mentioning them is that they become followers at the same time.
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I'm sorry MH. I should not have replied to your first post.You are incorrect in your exegesis , but still I should not have replied. I am sorry because I'm really not in the mood for another theological discussion with another Protestant, all respect to you.Even
I get bored sometimes with these sorts of threads.

 

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I'm sorry MH. I should not have replied to your first post.You are incorrect in your exegesis , but still I should not have replied. I am sorry because I'm really not in the mood for another theological discussion with another Protestant, all respect to you.Even
I get bored sometimes with these sorts of threads.

No problem sanctus.
One verse would have been enough to show where I am in error, apparently that verse doesn't exist.
I never said I was a Protestant.
Probably no more bored than I get asking somebody to supply the Scripture that supports their view and get only silence in return to the question, or like your comment that insinuates the question doesn't even have any merit.

I doubt any 'official Church' would ever admit that 5 books of the NT could have been penned by a woman endowed with the same Spirit of God that was with any other writer that ever wrote anything that is part of our Holy Bible. It would pretty much destroy any thought than men are exclusive to who God has called in the past, let alone how quickly the flock would leave when they found out that knowledge was kept from them on purpose.

 

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No problem sanctus.

I never said I was a Protestant.

You didn't have to, your writing has indicated it to me.

 

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You didn't have to, your writing has indicated it to me.

In the years I've been posting on several Christian chat forums I've managed to collect several labels, not a big deal really, I was just curious. I'm not sure what the Protestant view is on any of the Miriams. I'm not even sure who (what sects) would see Jesus's mother as being a daughter of Aaron as being an import piece of information.
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