LILLEY: CBC loses lawsuit against Tories while wasting your money

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Well, at the very most, we’re 13 months away from the next federal election, and hopefully sooner. Justin Trudeau’s Heritage Minister, Pascale St-Onge says Canadians love CBC and it’s only Pierre Poilievre who doesn’t like it.
But CBC’s ratings, which have been falling for years, tell a very different story.
St-Onge posted a video to social media defending CBC, which won’t help the perception that when it comes to politics, CBC is the network of the Liberal Party.

“CBC, let’s talk about it,” St-Onge says in the video. “Canadians grew up with it. One politician clearly missed out.”

The video then cuts to a clip of a rally of Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre where he talks about saving $1 billion by defunding CBC.

Poilievre’s promise to defund CBC is incredibly popular with his voters and always draws one of the loudest applause lines at his packed rallies.

St-Onge claims that this is just loud talk about “destroying” CBC and points to a poll from Spark Advocacy – owned by Bruce Anderson, a man with close ties to the Trudeau government – to back up the claim.

The poll she points to was conducted at the end of last year and asked people which of the following statements about CBC was closest to their viewpoint – 41% said CBC is important and should continue, 35% said they want CBC but with plenty of change while 24% said CBC is no longer needed. It’s an interesting poll and shows that a majority either don’t want CBC or if they want it, the believe it needs to change.

What the poll didn’t ask was whether CBC should be defunded.

Poilievre’s actual plan is to defund CBC in English – he has no plans to touch Radio-Canada, which is still highly popular in Quebec.

Defunding CBC doesn’t mean it would necessarily go away, but it wouldn’t get the massive government subsidies it does now.

A poll released in July 2023 by the Angus Reid Institute showed 36% of Canadians agreed with the statement that the government “should completely defund the CBC” compared to 47% who disagreed and 17% who said they did not know.

That’s a significant portion of Canadians agreeing CBC should lose its funding. The poll was also taken before CBC started announcing job cuts while also handing out bonuses, a move the vast majority of Canadians disagreed with.
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CBC is needed to save Canada from American billionaires who own social media platforms – what an utterly insane proposition. But after CBC host David Cochrane posited it on air, it’s being treated as gospel truth by Liberals and CBC supporters???

The idea was raised during a panel discussion on Power and Politics about defence spending and Canada meeting its NATO target that took a bizarre turn. Emilie Nicolas, a columnist with the Le Devoir newspaper went on a rant about how dangerous Elon Musk is as owner of X while being so close to Trump.

That’s when Cochrane took the conspiracy theory from Nicolas and ran with it.

“Let me lay out the scenario for you,” he said to panelist Garry Keller.

“Pierre Poilievre wins the election next year, he defunds the CBC, he ends the media subsidies to the National Post, the Toronto Star, the Globe and Mail and all the others, they struggle, they go under. He’s then gotta do a renegotiation of NAFTA in 2026 with Donald Trump, with no national public broadcaster and a diminished Canadian media, and social media platforms owned by American billionaires who are cozy with the President of the United States. What kind of a playing field does Canada walk into in its national interest in that?”

“That’s a huge hypothetical,” Keller answered.

That’s putting it mildly.
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Other Liberal supporters spread the clip as well, treating the idea not so much as a far-fetched theory as absolute fact.

Cochrane says Poilievre has promised to end the media subsidies, but they’re already over (???). In 2018, the Trudeau government promised $595 million over five years to news organizations and that program wasn’t renewed??? So…the CBC isn’t getting taxpayer funding above and beyond what other Canadian broadcasting would receive then???

That funding, which worked out to $119 million a year spread over multiple news outlets, pales in comparison to the $150 million a year increase to CBC funding that Trudeau announced in 2016. In 2022, the Trudeau government also promised another $400 million for CBC spread over four years.

So…the CBC isn’t going to get its $1.4-ish Billion Dollar hand out for 2025? Really?
Under Trudeau, CBC has been flush with cash and handing out big bonuses to executives while cutting 800 jobs, at least, and losing audience share.

As for CBC being the vital resource to inform Canadians with the truth, let’s remember, CBC leans hard left. Yes, they will have conservatives on, but the entire ethos of CBC is urban and left with a disdain for the conservative worldview.

This is the news organization that sued the Conservative Party in the middle of the 2019 election with two of their journalists as part of the suit. In July 2020, when Erin O’Toole was running to be leader of the Conservative Party, he did a radio interview with Cochrane where they edited out his very reasonable and well articulated answer on why he wanted to defund CBC English Television.

Those two examples seem to show a broadcaster putting their thumb on the scale.

Of course, there are countless other examples of biased coverage over the years, including downright disinformation. So, excuse me, but we don’t need CBC to save us from disinformation – we need to be saved from CBC.

That’s what Pierre Poilievre is promising to do.

His plan would cut funding for CBC’s English services but maintain funding for CBC’s French arm, Radio-Canada. I’d prefer that he cut all funding but I’ll take what I can get.
A recent piece by Harrison Lowman at The Hub, which also details the many problems with CBC from the perspective of a fan, says that Poilievre would cut CBC funding within the first 100 days of forming government.

That doesn’t mean CBC would disappear, it means that they would have to stand on their own two feet without the $1.5 billion headstart. They could adopt a subscription model for their website or they could ask for donations much like PBS in the United States, but they would definitely need to cut their bloated, overpaid bureaucracy.

Tait, whose term at the helm of Crown corporation comes to an end at the start of next year, told the heritage committee CBC/Radio-Canada is chronically underfunded.

She said the performance pay was a relatively small amount compared to the approximately $900 million it pays out every year in salaries for all employees, so basically every dollar for every employee at the CBC is covered (& then some) by the government (= the taxpayers)?

Documents the Treasury Board of Canada released on Feb. 29 showed CBC would get an estimated $1.38-billion budget in 2024-25, up from an estimated $1.29 billion for 2023-24.

Government funding accounts for approximately 70 per cent of CBC/Radio-Canada's budget, while the remainder of its funding comes from self-generated revenue including advertising? Really?

It's unclear at this time if the budget increase means CBC/Radio-Canada management will receive annual bonuses — performance-based incentive pay that is a part of compensation agreements for some 1,100 employees.

Tait told the committee the bonus payout in 2022-23 was $14.9 million.

"I can understand people's concerns," Tait told the committee. "It's an extremely small number and we need to keep our talented managers — it's not just journalists, although we absolutely honour and support their work."
 

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CBC is needed to save Canada from American billionaires who own social media platforms – what an utterly insane proposition. But after CBC host David Cochrane posited it on air, it’s being treated as gospel truth by Liberals and CBC supporters???

The idea was raised during a panel discussion on Power and Politics about defence spending and Canada meeting its NATO target that took a bizarre turn. Emilie Nicolas, a columnist with the Le Devoir newspaper went on a rant about how dangerous Elon Musk is as owner of X while being so close to Trump.

That’s when Cochrane took the conspiracy theory from Nicolas and ran with it.

“Let me lay out the scenario for you,” he said to panelist Garry Keller.

“Pierre Poilievre wins the election next year, he defunds the CBC, he ends the media subsidies to the National Post, the Toronto Star, the Globe and Mail and all the others, they struggle, they go under. He’s then gotta do a renegotiation of NAFTA in 2026 with Donald Trump, with no national public broadcaster and a diminished Canadian media, and social media platforms owned by American billionaires who are cozy with the President of the United States. What kind of a playing field does Canada walk into in its national interest in that?”

“That’s a huge hypothetical,” Keller answered.

That’s putting it mildly.
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Other Liberal supporters spread the clip as well, treating the idea not so much as a far-fetched theory as absolute fact.

Cochrane says Poilievre has promised to end the media subsidies, but they’re already over (???). In 2018, the Trudeau government promised $595 million over five years to news organizations and that program wasn’t renewed??? So…the CBC isn’t getting taxpayer funding above and beyond what other Canadian broadcasting would receive then???

That funding, which worked out to $119 million a year spread over multiple news outlets, pales in comparison to the $150 million a year increase to CBC funding that Trudeau announced in 2016. In 2022, the Trudeau government also promised another $400 million for CBC spread over four years.

So…the CBC isn’t going to get its $1.4-ish Billion Dollar hand out for 2025? Really?
Under Trudeau, CBC has been flush with cash and handing out big bonuses to executives while cutting 800 jobs, at least, and losing audience share.

As for CBC being the vital resource to inform Canadians with the truth, let’s remember, CBC leans hard left. Yes, they will have conservatives on, but the entire ethos of CBC is urban and left with a disdain for the conservative worldview.

This is the news organization that sued the Conservative Party in the middle of the 2019 election with two of their journalists as part of the suit. In July 2020, when Erin O’Toole was running to be leader of the Conservative Party, he did a radio interview with Cochrane where they edited out his very reasonable and well articulated answer on why he wanted to defund CBC English Television.

Those two examples seem to show a broadcaster putting their thumb on the scale.

Of course, there are countless other examples of biased coverage over the years, including downright disinformation. So, excuse me, but we don’t need CBC to save us from disinformation – we need to be saved from CBC.

That’s what Pierre Poilievre is promising to do.

His plan would cut funding for CBC’s English services but maintain funding for CBC’s French arm, Radio-Canada. I’d prefer that he cut all funding but I’ll take what I can get.
A recent piece by Harrison Lowman at The Hub, which also details the many problems with CBC from the perspective of a fan, says that Poilievre would cut CBC funding within the first 100 days of forming government.

That doesn’t mean CBC would disappear, it means that they would have to stand on their own two feet without the $1.5 billion headstart. They could adopt a subscription model for their website or they could ask for donations much like PBS in the United States, but they would definitely need to cut their bloated, overpaid bureaucracy.

Tait, whose term at the helm of Crown corporation comes to an end at the start of next year, told the heritage committee CBC/Radio-Canada is chronically underfunded.

She said the performance pay was a relatively small amount compared to the approximately $900 million it pays out every year in salaries for all employees, so basically every dollar for every employee at the CBC is covered (& then some) by the government (= the taxpayers)?

Documents the Treasury Board of Canada released on Feb. 29 showed CBC would get an estimated $1.38-billion budget in 2024-25, up from an estimated $1.29 billion for 2023-24.

Government funding accounts for approximately 70 per cent of CBC/Radio-Canada's budget, while the remainder of its funding comes from self-generated revenue including advertising? Really?

It's unclear at this time if the budget increase means CBC/Radio-Canada management will receive annual bonuses — performance-based incentive pay that is a part of compensation agreements for some 1,100 employees.

Tait told the committee the bonus payout in 2022-23 was $14.9 million.

"I can understand people's concerns," Tait told the committee. "It's an extremely small number and we need to keep our talented managers — it's not just journalists, although we absolutely honour and support their work."
Now that's plain silly. There are independent media IN CANADA available that one can get their news on & they would likely expand their reach. Why would they have to go to "social media" - well, they can, but they do that now. So what would be the difference? Besides, maybe CTV, Global & City TV would clean up their acts to draw more people to their channels. This whole media thing is all on them - improve your product & you'll get more consumers to watch!!