Public Inquiries into Emergencies Act begin September 19

Ron in Regina

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Covid was all just bullshit.
We lost someone to COVID. He was 32 years old & left his young family.
Climate change is all just bullshit.
Climate Change is something to adapt to and taxes are not going to change that.
The truckers being considered terrorist is all more bullshit.
They where just another protest. We’ve had many over the years & will have many more. It differed from other recent protests in that it was comparatively light on violence and property damage and smashed statues and torched churches….

…but it was a soft target in the mind of a wanna-be strongman in that it wasn’t PREDOMINATELY women, indigenous, physically handicapped, visible minorities, LGBTQ, left-handed gamblers, Pigmy’s, Heterochromians, etc…
We have a big problem in this country. We have politicians and the media that like and enjoy lying to we the peasants. If it does not fit their lefty liberal narrative, then it must meet and be treated and defined as terrorism or racism. Sadly, there are way too many dolt peasants out there that will believe their lies and bullshit. (n)
Media did what they where paid to do. Legacy Media bail-out bucks or just plain old Billion$$/year CBC.
In terms of consequences for his overreach and oppression? Sure. Except it will hurt him personally on the international opinion circuit and he does care about that. I mean he'll be 'officially' a tyrant -wannabe at that point ;)
Isn’t that a prerequisite for a seat at the UN?
 
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It still amazes me as to how this blackface racist Trudeau can still be the dicktator of Canada? It just shows me that the liberals can do whatever they dam well please, and the phony Canadian media will back them up and let them off the hook. There are certain sets of rules for liberals, and then there are other certain sets of rules for conservatives. :unsure:
But they aren’t those terrifying conservatives with their secret agenda .
 
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The RCMP never used the sweeping powers of the federal Emergencies Act to clear protests choking key border crossings in regions where it is the lead police force, evidence presented at the Emergencies Act inquiry shows.


The Public Order Emergencies Commission is studying whether the government’s unprecedented invocation of the Emergencies Act last winter was justified. When the government invoked the act on Feb. 14, it argued it could not be limited to Ontario because it was also required to end blockades at several border crossings.

Witness testimony has shown that the blockade of the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor, Ont., was cleared on Feb. 13, without use of the act. The blockade in Coutts, meanwhile, was cleared on Feb. 15, also without direct use of the act, witnesses have said. Documents tabled with the commission also suggest that the blockade in Emerson did not require the act’s powers when protesters dispersed on Feb. 16.

Then from the CBC:
 
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Whoops! Jody Thomas, Trudeau’s senior national security aide, refuted key elements of testimony by RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki, saying the top Mountie had a duty to speak up — but didn’t — when the government was considering the controversial decision on Feb. 13. Lucki also did not communicate her view to Thomas before she briefed cabinet ministers at two crucial meetings that day, mere hours before the government invoked the Emergencies Act, Thomas said.
 

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As the ‘Freedom Convoy’ demonstrations continued to snarl downtown Ottawa in February, the prime minister’s national security adviser warned of the possibility that its most extreme attendees could target the general public.

While the overall terrorism threat level remained unchanged, according to Thomas’ notes, she warned that IMVE adherents “may feel empowered” by the level of “disorder” resulting from the protests.

“This could lead individuals vulnerable to extremist messaging to commit isolated acts of violence,” Thomas’ notes read.

“CSIS assessments indicate that some IVME actors may see federal government action as a reason to mobilize towards violence,” the notes read.

Thomas and her team also grappled with determining where the line lives between legal and illegal protests — something she said she still doesn’t have a firm answer for.

This conversation — determining what constitutes legal and illegal protest — is a “conversation that is continuing,” one that Thomas said is “critical.”

Michael Sabia, deputy minister of the department of finance, Without explicitly stating whether he believed the Emergencies Act was necessary, Sabia said the policy his department set using Emergencies Act powers (& the suspension of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms) led to a “pretty good outcome.”

 

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Michael Sabia, deputy minister of the department of finance, Without explicitly stating whether he believed the Emergencies Act was necessary, Sabia said the policy his department set using Emergencies Act powers (& the suspension of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms) led to a “pretty good outcome.”
Suspect everybody, anticipate the worst, and act on it. Suspicion equals guilt, potential equals action.

Easy breezy.
A pretty good outcome?
National Security Adviser Jody Thomas, who recommended using the Emergencies Act, what the experts in law enforcement and intelligence believe just doesn’t matter. Nor does it matter what the legislation actually says. When pressed during her testimony at the Public Order Emergency Commission on Thursday, she said, “The (Emergencies) Act allows for the Governor-in-Council to make a broad decision about public order emergencies.”

In other words, the government can do whatever the hell it damn well pleases?

Almost no one — not CSIS, not the Ontario police, not even the prime minister himself up until the last minute — really believes the Freedom Convoy protests counted as a threat to the “security of Canada” as defined in legislation, or otherwise met the standard for declaring a national emergency.

Don’t worry, if a particular law, let’s say, the Emergencies Act, doesn’t say or do what a government wants it to say or do, in Justin Trudeau’s Canada you can just pretend it does. The rule of law? Constitutional norms? Parliamentary supremacy? Pfft, those are for dorks.

The director of CSIS told the government that he did not believe such a threat existed, and the head of the Ontario Provincial Police intelligence unit testified to the commission in October that police “found no credible intelligence of threats.”

Jody Thomas, who is not a lawyer and has no intelligence gathering experience, however, testified that the wording in the legislation was more of a suggestion. (?)

When Thomas added that the government had broad latitude to determine when a public order emergency exists, Miller responded, “That’s not what it (the act) says.” Thomas then cut him off to say, “I think that this is an argument to have with lawyers.” The rest at the above link…

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will be under a great deal of pressure when he testifies next week at the public inquiry examining his government’s invocation of the Emergencies Act. The decision was almost certainly illegal and unconstitutional, and nothing that has been presented at the Public Order Emergency Commission so far suggests otherwise.

In order to justify the use of emergency legislation that permits the government to effectively create laws at will and more easily limit charter rights, it must be shown that there was a genuine “threat to the security of Canada.” Such a threat, which is defined in the Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act, must consist of “activities within or relating to Canada directed toward or in support of the threat or use of acts of serious violence.”

Ultimately, no activities tied to the pandemic protests across the country ever met the Canadian Security Intelligence Service’s definition of a national security threat, as defined by the CSIS Act, according to the summary of an interview of service director David Vigneault by Public Order Emergency Commission lawyers in August.

According to the CSIS interview summary, once Vigneault learned the government was seriously considering invoking the Emergencies Act, he felt obliged to “clearly convey” the agency’s view that “there did not exist a threat to the security of Canada” as defined by the CSIS Act.

He briefed high-ranking government members, including Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, of the service’s findings on Feb. 13, the day before the act was envoked, according to the summary.
 

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In retrospect the emergencies act was Trudeau's version of the invasion of the ukraine - he thought it would make him look tough and would be over in a few days and pretty quick everyone would forget about it.
1668873972775.jpegRussia invading Ukraine on February 24th was a political gift to the Trudeau Gov’t. “Phew! Look over there! Look at the bad man oppressing and such! Nothing to see here in Ottawa. Move along…”
However it's been dogging him and he just can't seem to make it go away and it pulls at his credibility and i'm sure he now looks at it as a mistake. It's clear the powers weren't necessary to resolve the situation and the flip flopping on the reasons have made him look pretty suspicious.
Credibility. Suspicious. Yeah….It’s been interesting if not enlightening.
Right now he needs to have a strong good-news fall session to help bolster his badly flailing approval ratings, and this is going to detract from any positive messaging he can muster.
Yeah. He’s got until 2025 to grasp at straws (but not plastic ones) until something positive sticks.
 

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National Security Adviser Jody Thomas, who recommended using the Emergencies Act, what the experts in law enforcement and intelligence believe just doesn’t matter. Nor does it matter what the legislation actually says. When pressed during her testimony at the Public Order Emergency Commission on Thursday, she said, “The (Emergencies) Act allows for the Governor-in-Council to make a broad decision about public order emergencies.”

In other words, the government can do whatever the hell it damn well pleases?

Almost no one — not CSIS, not the Ontario police, not even the prime minister himself up until the last minute — really believes the Freedom Convoy protests counted as a threat to the “security of Canada” as defined in legislation, or otherwise met the standard for declaring a national emergency.

Don’t worry, if a particular law, let’s say, the Emergencies Act, doesn’t say or do what a government wants it to say or do, in Justin Trudeau’s Canada you can just pretend it does. The rule of law? Constitutional norms? Parliamentary supremacy? Pfft, those are for dorks.

The director of CSIS told the government that he did not believe such a threat existed, and the head of the Ontario Provincial Police intelligence unit testified to the commission in October that police “found no credible intelligence of threats.”

Jody Thomas, who is not a lawyer and has no intelligence gathering experience, however, testified that the wording in the legislation was more of a suggestion. (?)

When Thomas added that the government had broad latitude to determine when a public order emergency exists, Miller responded, “That’s not what it (the act) says.” Thomas then cut him off to say, “I think that this is an argument to have with lawyers.” The rest at the above link…

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will be under a great deal of pressure when he testifies next week at the public inquiry examining his government’s invocation of the Emergencies Act. The decision was almost certainly illegal and unconstitutional, and nothing that has been presented at the Public Order Emergency Commission so far suggests otherwise.

In order to justify the use of emergency legislation that permits the government to effectively create laws at will and more easily limit charter rights, it must be shown that there was a genuine “threat to the security of Canada.” Such a threat, which is defined in the Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act, must consist of “activities within or relating to Canada directed toward or in support of the threat or use of acts of serious violence.”

Ultimately, no activities tied to the pandemic protests across the country ever met the Canadian Security Intelligence Service’s definition of a national security threat, as defined by the CSIS Act, according to the summary of an interview of service director David Vigneault by Public Order Emergency Commission lawyers in August.

According to the CSIS interview summary, once Vigneault learned the government was seriously considering invoking the Emergencies Act, he felt obliged to “clearly convey” the agency’s view that “there did not exist a threat to the security of Canada” as defined by the CSIS Act.

He briefed high-ranking government members, including Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, of the service’s findings on Feb. 13, the day before the act was envoked, according to the summary.
They didn’t need an emergency act , all that was needed was for some of those pampered fat assed parliamentarians to go out and meet with the protesters and listen to their concerns .
 

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They didn’t need an emergency act , all that was needed was for some of those pampered fat assed parliamentarians to go out and meet with the protesters and listen to their concerns .
That is the truth. Like they've done with every other protest group.
 
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As the ‘Freedom Convoy’ demonstrations continued to snarl downtown Ottawa in February, the prime minister’s national security adviser warned of the possibility that its most extreme attendees could target the general public.

While the overall terrorism threat level remained unchanged, according to Thomas’ notes, she warned that IMVE adherents “may feel empowered” by the level of “disorder” resulting from the protests.

“This could lead individuals vulnerable to extremist messaging to commit isolated acts of violence,” Thomas’ notes read.

“CSIS assessments indicate that some IVME actors may see federal government action as a reason to mobilize towards violence,” the notes read.

Thomas and her team also grappled with determining where the line lives between legal and illegal protests — something she said she still doesn’t have a firm answer for.

This conversation — determining what constitutes legal and illegal protest — is a “conversation that is continuing,” one that Thomas said is “critical.”

Michael Sabia, deputy minister of the department of finance, Without explicitly stating whether he believed the Emergencies Act was necessary, Sabia said the policy his department set using Emergencies Act powers (& the suspension of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms) led to a “pretty good outcome.”


Terrorism and extremists are just your typical lefty liberal words to try and make their opponents look like terrorist or extremists. The truckers were far from being anywhere close to being seen as terrorists and extremists. Just more Marxist Trudeau's lies and bullshit. it is the Marxist in Ottawa that is the terrorist and extremist here in Canada. Why this buffoon has not been arrested and charged with crimes against humanity still baffles me. I guess that when someone is a part of the globalist Klaus Swabster WEF club, one can get away with anything they do. And they say that Canada is a democracy country. Bullshit. (n)
 
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Jody Thomas, national security advisor to the P.M., did think there was a threat. Based on social media posts, she felt the convoy was a “threat to national interest and institutions by people who do not care about or understand democracy, who are preparing to be violent, who are motivated by anti-government sentiment.”

As if “anti-government sentiment” has suddenly become a crime.

In truth, it was the Trudeau government that cared little for democracy and seemed not to understand it.

More documents this week show Finance Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland wanted every one of the hundreds of Canadians who had had their bank accounts and assets frozen for supporting the convoy to report to police before having their money and property released.

Under what authority? This is nothing more than “we’re watching you” intimidation, pure and simple.
Almost none of these people was ever charged with a crime. They had never had a chance to appear before a judge, yet somehow the Deputy P.M. thought they should go cap-in-hand to police and pledge to be good little boys and girls.

This week the commission also heard from assistant deputy Finance Minister Isabelle Jacques, who said it was never the department’s intention when freezing bank accounts to harm the families of account holders.

Really!? Mortgage, rent, loan and child support payments could not be made because the government froze hundreds of joint accounts, yet senior civil servants claim they couldn’t have predicted that would hurt spouses and children.
When asked whether the freezes would impact credit ratings, Jacques scoffed that “You’re talking about people involved in unlawful activities.”

But we’re not. Donating money to the convoy (the reason most accounts were frozen) was not illegal. Besides, to punish protestors and donors arbitrarily, without a trial and a chance to defend themselves, is undemocratic.

“CSIS told government Freedom Convoy didn’t pose national security threat day before Emergencies Act invoked.”

That was a headline in the National Post this week describing documents tabled at the public inquiry into the Trudeau government’s suspension of civil rights last winter to deal with the truckers’ protest in downtown Ottawa.

The national spy agency also told the Trudeau government it could find no evidence of foreign influence behind the convoy, nor traces of foreign funding. Nor did the protests ever satisfy the definition of “national security threat” laid out in the CSIS Act.

So, that’s it, right? The Rouleau inquiry can wrap up now. Its work is done….or maybe not. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is scheduled to testify (or at least speak) at the Inquiry this coming week, & he’s ensured he’s been in the spotlight globally leading up to this…
 
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