2016 Presidential Campaign

[mentalfloss]

I agree about any stock market crash being temporary.

Despite all the uncertainty though, the nation is truly divided so the real question is:


What is Trump going to do to unify the country?


How does he pivot without losing his supporters?

 

[JLM]

True, markets will go down, but rebound. Found the speech and yup he certainly did sound much more subdued last night, a new Trump perhaps?

Perhaps the main thing, last night was that things were starting to go HIS way!

Ooooooooh ooooooooh, the catastrophizing is already started with Canadian politicians..........namely Elizabeth May and Kim Campbell for starters!

 

[Blackleaf]

The Leftie British media is not liking this at all. Having spent over four months whingeing about Brexit they're now going to spend the coming months whingeing about Trumpism. Like Brexit, Trumpism is going to be the gift that keeps on giving.

Here's a toys-out-of-the-pram article:

Congratulations, America. You just elected a man accused of sexual assault to avoid a woman accused of mishandling her emails | The Independent

 

[Locutus]

it's a damn fine time to be alive guys.

and don't worry...the sun will continue to rise.

for the previous all-knowing smugtards, your anger and embarrassment will subside over time if you're emotionally healthy enough. talk it out with your nice neighbours if needs be.

the rest of us will get on with helping to fix the fukk ups by years of our so-called moral and intellectual superiors trying on their social engineering experiments.

 

[Rosebud]

The dream team: Alan Keyes/Michele Bachmann 2016

Better expect a long stay at a Marriot at the border while Canada goes into the sniffer dog training business. While their at it, they'll need to build a slew of new retention cells. The clutzes down south never seem to get that Canada is a separate country.

Feel sorry for those 'workers' who elected this spoiled brat and discover that their child needing brain surgery will have surgeons that can now legally go out for a drag before the operation. Yikes.!!

 

[JLM]

You're right to a degree. You got us by the balls due to population, geography, and language.

But we could survive without the US if necessary. We could trade with Russia, Greenland, pretty much the whole Arctic region.

Do you think a population of 55,000 (Greenland) will generate much trade?

 

[darkbeaver]

 

[JLM]

Was I ever wrong! Markets are UP this morning!

 

[darkbeaver]

And now the purges begin, first a witch burning is in order if not devinely mandated.

 

[Blackleaf]

Do you think a population of 55,000 (Greenland) will generate much trade?

Little Greenland seems to have done pretty well for itself since seceding from the EU in 1985.

 

[Rosebud]

With his policies on Isil and Russia, Donald Trump will make the world a safer place

Why Donald Trump's victory could be good for the US – and the world

And here's a great reader's comment on telegraph.co.uk:

Alexander Wilkinson

9 Nov 2016 12:58PM

And what a surprise that was! They didn't see it coming; the democrats, pollsters, most world leaders, the press. Surprising indeed because Donald Trump's win blew in on the same wind of inevitability as Brexit.

Was the result, whether Donald or Brexit, foreseeable? Of course it was. History maps out time and again what happens when the establishment lose touch with the people, under any political or Governmental structure. Take your pick from many between Akhenaten, Julius Caesar, King John and the Magna Carta, Richard II and The Peasants Revolt and on and on to the Bolshevik Revolution to the rise of Hitler. The powers that be ignore and oppress people at their peril.

At least the US situation is resolved for now with a decisive vote and presidency that will run its course. Ironically, in Britain, the cradle of modern democracy, there are those who still seek to ignore the people they crave to lead, those who refuse to accept the biggest popular mandate ever, the remain activists, the media and, incredibly, the judiciary who should know better.

Brexit will happen one way or another. If frustrated now it will only rebound bigger and angrier than before. It is inevitable. Why? Because when the status quo or direction of travel becomes so unpopular, it becomes unsustainable and no matter what efforts are expended to maintain 'stability' in following the current course, it will result in only one thing; change. The longer the unsustainable path is adhered to and the more it runs counter to the interests of the people, the greater the force behind the change. With Brexit and Donald, the pressure valve of democracy has allowed change, that while some see as calamitous, is actually relatively gentle compared to what can really happen.

And to the point; The Five Presidents of the EU need to heed the warning. They can kick the can down the road for only so long. If they don't change, change will be forced upon them. The longer they ignore the inevitable, the more fractious and violent the change will be and doesn't Europe have a colourful history in that respect.

Instead of pillorying the UK for making a change, they should take a leaf from the book and look to themselves. Their own actions, the deliberate hoodwinking of populations across Europe as to the intentions of the European Union, stubbornly ignoring the backlash against it and the economic pressure cookers of Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece et al, the unsustainability of their currency and their inability to act in unison on the world stage, all conspire to the inevitability of the fall of the EU.

European leaders should not be worrying themselves about a 'Hard' or disorderly Brexit or harbouring crazy ideas of punishing Britain. They should be considering the changes they need to make themselves to avoid a disorderly collapse of the European Union and a crash into violent conflict.

Blackleaf, Whatever his external appearance and promises, he is not of a character that makes up a president. He was elected due to
a collective character trait of all Americans, that is, the temptation to novelty and experimentation. However, this is one gamble that can never be fixed if they get it wrong. Whatever you make of him, you can never say he is calm and collected under stress, especially shown under something as mundane as an election. He lacks thoughtfulness and reservation, and prone to spontaniety He is a definite risk and the Americans think they can roll the dice for the rest of the globe.

To know for sure, he will require his moment of proof, and at that moment all we will have to be hopeful is what we know of his character.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Blackleaf, Whatever his external appearance and promises, he is not of a character that makes up a president. He was elected due to
a collective character trait of all Americans, that is, the temptation to novelty and experimentation. However, this is one gamble that can never be fixed if they get it wrong. Whatever you make of him, you can never say he is calm and collected under stress, especially shown under something as mundane as an election. He lacks thoughtfulness and reservation, and prone to spontaniety He is a definite risk and the Americans think they can roll the dice for the rest of the globe.

To know for sure, he will require his moment of proof, and at that moment all we will have to be hopeful is what we know of his character.

I think he was elected primarily because the other side was arrogant, fixed their primaries, and put in an unelectable candidate. In states with low kool aid sales, this prevailed. Even where kool aid flowed, Clinton underperformed Obama big time.

 

[Cannuck]

The good news is that a Republican Senate and House of Reps will resist most of Trump's policies. Four years of Republican stalemate.

Yes, the US government will buffer the world against much of The Donald's goofiness.

 

[Blackleaf]

Blackleaf, Whatever his external appearance and promises, he is not of a character that makes up a president. He was elected due to
a collective character trait of all Americans, that is, the temptation to novelty and experimentation. However, this is one gamble that can never be fixed if they get it wrong. Whatever you make of him, you can never say he is calm and collected under stress, especially shown under something as mundane as an election. He lacks thoughtfulness and reservation, and prone to spontaniety He is a definite risk and the Americans think they can roll the dice for the rest of the globe.

To know for sure, he will require his moment of proof, and at that moment all we will have to be hopeful is what we know of his character.

I think he'll make a fine president.

The 59,135,740 people (not including those whose votes are still bring counted) who voted for Trump did so for the same reason as the 17,410,742 people who voted for Brexit: they are fed up of an out-of-touch, distant, PC, liberal Establishment sneering at them and ignoring their concerns in things such as immigration. They are fed up of these politicians calling them "racists" and "bigots" for wanting immigration slashed or for wanting illegals kicked out. The Americans, just like the British, have cleary had enough.

As for Trump being a risk: I'd say Clinton would have been much more of a risk. This woman kept spouting anti-Russian sentiment and she could very easily have caused WWIII. In the EU election in Britain, the Remoaners were ludicrous to say Brexit would lead to WWIII, but it's not ludicrous to say Clinton could have caused it. Trump, in fact, may work along side Putin to help solve the civil war in Syria.

 

[JLM]

I think he was elected primarily because the other side was arrogant, fixed their primaries, and put in an unelectable candidate. In states with low kool aid sales, this prevailed. Even where kool aid flowed, Clinton underperformed Obama big time.

Yep, I think the handwriting was on the wall starting with the three debates. Hillary's body language, I found very inflammatory, think intensified a lot of hatred toward her.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I think it was more in the speeches she gave last couple of weeks. She was speaking from the position of believing the polls and assuming it was a done deal. Perhaps her supporters did the same and didn't bother voting. That will become clearer when turnout numbers become more available.

 

[Rosebud]

As president he has the authority to scrap NAFTA (with some notice obviously). His proposed 35% tariff imposed on Mexico would need to include all countries because companies outsourced to Mexico for cheap labor will simply move to China for example. Canada would counterattack by increasing their tariff, which is already at a higher rate than the US. Manufacturing jobs coming back to the US needs to be seen, it is possible? I don't see why not and Trump might be the one to take on the fights this would ensue.

No, was gone by then, was it good?

No contest. Throw the switch on the Quebec's Manic sources,(there goes the seaboard mnfg),increase diplomacy with the Russions, divert the northern water sheds to increased Canadian agriculture(oops, there goes Californian and cities in the midwest, their aquifer is dieing anyway.), etc.

Where do want me to stop? Canada pumped out 2 frigates a month in WW2, and we build the first Mach(nn) jet in two years that shocked the beejeebers out of the American fighter industry(Canada is renowned for being audacious when push comes to shove). We are the technical advisors to the world on everything nuclear, and have the raw materials. The Russions can finally find a friend overseas. Tariffs can be collected on land routes,etc. I'd love to be prime minister today.

Putin is much more reserved and collected than Trump. Trump is reactionary.

A hair trigger president, no big surprise from a nation that continuously shows intrigue with novelty, and gambles on the welfare of their children. Duhhh!

 

[Kreskin]

I wasn't aware that Trump was planning a masssive trudeauish infrustructure program until his speech last night. He can make promises like no other.

 

[Cannuck]

... Trump was planning a masssive trudeauish infrustructure program ...

It'll be yuge, believe me!

 

[Kreskin]

The national debt will be off the charts before he's done.