Quebec is a nation? What does that mean?

[Cabbagesandking]

The map supports me, Bear. We are talking of Quebec and you can see how little of it was French occupied and controlled.

One little story about that control -and the Map. Once I was a t a meeting where Bernard Landry came to the West Island to talk to an Anglophone audience. He tool some time talking of the claim to territorial control that gave Right to the PQ claims.

I tool the floor and demonstrated to him on the board map he was using what I have been saying here. Since he was talking to an audience of Quebeckers who knew the history of Quebec, he could not dispute me and, instead shot back with
what about the Ohio territory."

I replied that if he felt strong enough he should take it back from the Americans and stop trying to steal Canadian territory.

 

[CDNBear]

The map supports me, Bear.

I'm already well aware of your flawed interpretation of facts.

We are talking of Quebec and you can see how little of it was French occupied and controlled.

I'm sure you think that that actually matters. since you missed the glaring point.

 

[Cabbagesandking]

I'm already well aware of your flawed interpretation of facts.

I'm sure you think that that actually matters. since you missed the glaring point.

I missed nothing. Once again you try to buttress your non points with non responses.

 

[CDNBear]

I missed nothing.

Apparently you did.

Once again you try to buttress your non points with non responses.

Correction, once again I simply can't justify wasting the time to explain it to someone that will undoubtedly resort to personal attack and insult, when they get shown to be wrong, yet again.

I'm just going to post supportable, and verifiable counter points and facts, to the nonsensical, unsupported opinion, contained in your posts (Like mysterious tanks, Mohawks claiming to be Canadian, and lets not forget the claims you make about yourself), and let people think for themselves.

 

[Cabbagesandking]

Apparently you did.

Correction, once again I simply can't justify wasting the time to explain it to someone that will undoubtedly resort to personal attack and insult, when they get shown to be wrong, yet again.

I'm just going to post supportable, and verifiable counter points and facts, to the nonsensical, unsupported opinion, contained in your posts (Like mysterious tanks, Mohawks claiming to be Canadian, and lets not forget the claims you make about yourself), and let people think for themselves.

Once again you try to cover your inability to respond with meaningless verbiage.

Your MO becomes simply tiresome. It is coprolite.

 

[gerryh]

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One little story about that control -and the Map. Once I was a t a meeting where Bernard Landry came to the West Island to talk to an Anglophone audience. He tool some time talking of the claim to territorial control that gave Right to the PQ claims.

I tool the floor and demonstrated to him on the board map he was using what I have been saying here. Since he was talking to an audience of Quebeckers who knew the history of Quebec, he could not dispute me and, instead shot back with
what about the Ohio territory."

I replied that if he felt strong enough he should take it back from the Americans and stop trying to steal Canadian territory.

Bullshyte.

Once again you try to cover your inability to respond with meaningless verbiage.

Your MO becomes simply tiresome. It is coprolite.

and once again you throw in unsupported bullshyte. You've already been proven the idiot when it comes to population percentages, even though you refuse to acknowledge it.

 

[CDNBear]

Once again you try to cover your inability to respond with meaningless verbiage.

Funny, everyone else seems to have agreed with me.

Your MO becomes simply tiresome.

Lots of people feel that way after I make their posts look as ridiculous as yours do.

It is coprolite.

Speaking of MO's. At least mine is firm and supportable. Yours requires hip waders to get through.

and once again you throw in unsupported bullshyte. You've already been proven the idiot when it comes to population percentages, even though you refuse to acknowledge it.

It doesn't suit his position.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I know what they exactly are.

No, I don't think you do, if you did you wouldn't have phrased the rest of that post as you did. It sounds like you've read the legal documents but know very little about the roles of custom, practice, and precedent.

 

[nimafarid2007]

No, I don't think you do, if you did you wouldn't have phrased the rest of that post as you did. It sounds like you've read the legal documents but know very little about the roles of custom, practice, and precedent.

lol I didn't look it up. the role is somehow simillar to supreme leaders in iran...
But that is not the point.

 

[gerryh]

lol I didn't look it up. the role is somehow simillar to supreme leaders in iran...
But that is not the point.

wooooooooooow..... :roll:

 

[Goober]

People get wound up over verbiage, The US is a union of 50 "states" isn't it?

Scotland and Wales call themselves countries.
There are First Nations throughout Canada.
And the Quebec people live in a geographic region with French as the principal language, and with a distinct culture and history, and with many of their own institutions. They are a nation but not a country.

Unlike the US where a State cannot secede- the Civil War settled that point- Quebec can leave the Federation according to the Law as laid out in the Clarity Act and approved by the SCoC - Myself like a large number of Canadians are tired of the incessant demands.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

lol I didn't look it up. the role is somehow simillar to supreme leaders in iran...
But that is not the point.

The point seems to be that you don't really know what you're going on about. First you start out claiming it's just a title, then in post #100 you argue there's real power associated with it, including claiming the monarch controls the armed forces, which is ludicrous.

 

[Cabbagesandking]

As always, Bear, discussion ends when you appear. You are here only to troll and seek the approval of the usual idiot.

 

[gerryh]

As always, Bear, discussion ends when you appear. You are here only to troll and seek the approval of the usual idiot.

well done... bob and weave and obfuscation.

 

[BaalsTears]

Ethno-nationalism is becoming the strongest force in the modern world. Even my own beloved America is coming apart in some ways. I wish all of you folks in Canada and Quebec well as you sort this out.

 

[CDNBear]

As always, Bear, discussion ends when you appear.

You're wrong again.

After I appeared, there are 16 more posts. The only ones that don't contain discussion pertinent to the discussion, are the ones you initiated.

Interesting.

You are here only to troll and seek the approval of the usual idiot.

You leave nothing else to be desired.

It isn't anyones fault, that you don't understand what was posted to your false claims. Other than the poor state of the Canadian education system, maybe.

 

[oleoleolanda]

Maybe you’re not aware of the great animosity between English Canada and French Canada. Quebec doesn't want to be governed out of Ottawa by a bunch of people who can't stand them. They certainly don't want to be governed by a bunch of people who apparently can't read the constitution. Quebec has always maintained that issues like healthcare and education are provincial matters, and that sending money to Ottawa so it can be returned to them is a waste of time effort and money. The day care plan is the best example of this. Quebec already has a provincial system....so why would they send their money to Ottawa to have it returned to them to do what they are already doing? Ontario isn't as socialist as Quebec, and (more than likely) wouldn't opt for a provincial wide program, but would use a different system. Same with health care. IMO.

Are they repulsed with the country they created? Well, I don't think they consider it their country, considering the Queen of England runs it.

I don't think it is fair to suggest that all French Canadians have the same feelings and views or that all English Canadians do either. The animosity is only between a minority from what I see. As far as funding, what different issues does Quebec face in this compared to Ontario or Alberta or BC? Is it a Quebec issue, or a provincial/federal issue?

 

[CDNBear]

Holy crap!!! oleoleolanda!!! How have you been? Long time, no see.

 

[ABconservative]

Mr. Duceppe stated that Quebec is a nation and such that it should be sovereign. What exactly does he mean? Who is part of this Quebec nation? I understand that Quebec is distinct in its language, culture and heritage, but how does this lead to separation?

Is there anyone that can explain this rhetoric?

HAHA Quebec is barely a province with all those pepeapoos and don't even get me started on Catholics.

 

[CDNBear]

HAHA Quebec is barely a province with all those pepeapoos and don't even get me started on Catholics.

Yer funny!