Abortion demonstration just doesn't sound right.
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I certainly don't agree with termination in the late stages.
Gerry, if you are going to throw out this idea that abortions happen right up to the day before delivery please do show us some stats on how often that happens. I would imagine it is basically never and you are just using it as an inflamatory emotional argument.
And it is legal to kill you animals after they are born as long as they don't suffer. This animal cruelty law only prevents cruelty and suffering. You can kill your dog as long as it is done by a method that is quick and painless like euthanasia by the vet or a bullet through the head.
Funny how all the globalists say true sustainability for the entire planet is around 1 billion yet you put it at 22 billion. Just a small discrepancy there.
True, especially if you want to justify irresponsibility.
We do. Actually, sometimes better. A case in Newmarket, a drunk driver wipes out an entire family, Mother Father and infant in a stroller. Gets 6 months. Two wayward teens skin a live cat, and get 2 years.
No it isn't, unless you can point out where a fetus fits into the food chain. The food chain dictates that we eat other life to live. Unless medically needed, an abortion is an elective procedure, and not a necessity of life.
I agree, your logic is fatal.
When did your position change?
Define normal people.
No you don't.
Are you better than a child molester?
You have some nerve asking for stats when you've refused to post any to support your claims of emotional distress and trauma. Or ignored posts that simply deflates your nonsense.
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Wasn't me. I'm in favour of respecting the autonomy of others. If women, for whatever reason, can't fit a child into their lives, they should not be required to do so simply because they are pregnant. I do have some beliefs about when is too late, but most provinces have regulations in line with what I think it acceptable.
One of my brothers had to wrestle with the decision prior to the birth of his daughter. All sorts of tests were done and medical experts told him and his wife that the unborn child would most likely have Down's Syndrome. They recommended late term (17 weeks) abortion. He was a complete mess, but would not agree to abortion. Today, they have a perfectly healthy 3 year old daughter.
Here she is, the child that doctors wanted to abort:
Wasn't me. I'm in favour of respecting the autonomy of others. If women, for whatever reason, can't fit a child into their lives, they should not be required to do so simply because they are pregnant. I do have some beliefs about when is too late, but most provinces have regulations in line with what I think it acceptable.
One of my brothers had to wrestle with the decision prior to the birth of his daughter. All sorts of tests were done and medical experts told him and his wife that the unborn child would most likely have Down's Syndrome. They recommended late term (17 weeks) abortion. He was a complete mess, but would not agree to abortion. Today, they have a perfectly healthy 3 year old daughter.
Here she is, the child that doctors wanted to abort:
Cute kid.
I'm glad they opted not to abort.
Hmmm, must have been a different Ariadne participating the thread "Who's right to choose, a woman's right to choose".
An imaginary one. In reality, there are no doctors in Canada that will perform an abortion at that stage. It would be very difficult to find one to perform an abortion after 20 weeks as only about a hand full of doctors will do that.
According to Stats Can, there were 556 abortions performed that were done after 21 weeks. In comparison over 20,000 were performed in the first trimester.
The fact is, since the abortionist are so big on "facts", the SCC struck down Canada's abortion laws. So, at this time there are NO laws restricting abortion in any way. This means it is possible for a woman to LEGALLY abort right up to the birth. You can all thank Morgantaler, the serial killer, for that.
The late term abortions were probably situations with extenuating circumstances ... like my brother experienced. All sorts of tests are done on fetuses to identify possible birth defects, but the tests can't be done until something like 16 week gestation. The test results take 2 weeks. Women probably agonize over the decision and sometimes wait too long (21 weeks). It was such a traumatic experience for my brother and his wife that they decided not to have any more children.
And here I was thinking that you were against abortion.
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My main concern is not about the killing, but rather the pain and suffering of the death.
I have no question allowing an early stage abortion (earlier than 20 weeks). If I could be assured that a late stage abortion was not painful to the child or mother; or cause much in the way of some significant injury in the future - I would be more inclined to support late stage abortions as well.
One major difference there Bear (which I thought an astute feller like yourself would pick up on) The D.D. didn't intend to kill his victims...........the A$$holes did intend to skin the cat. One was mean the other was stupid.
NO, but I can thank them for keeping your religious views from controlling my life and life of every woman in Canada. And you can thank them for stopping my views from controlling your life.
I'm sure if law was enacted like the chinese regulating the amount of children one could have you would be a pro-choicer in a big hurry.
Sure. Now you're getting into bioethics and euthanasia.
It depends on a number of factors, but I would definitely support voluntary euthanasia and non-voluntary euthanasia in the case that it could be feasibly shown that it would be better for the suffering party to end their life.