The Coalition Strikes!!!

Colpy

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Deficit or GST hike? Which would you prefer?


Easy

GST hike.

Now......

The NDP is taking the vexed issue of corporate tax cuts off the table, leaving a four-point budget wish list as a way for Prime Minister Stephen Harper to avoid a spring election.
Mr. Harper and Jack Layton met Friday behind closed doors in the Prime Minister’s Langevin Block office. That meeting coincided with the NDP Leader’s decision to abandon the party’s demand that the Conservatives scrap further corporate tax cuts in the March budget.

NDP takes corporate tax cuts off the table - The Globe and Mail

Good Lord! Are the NDP moving to the right of the Liberals????????

Or should I say is the Liberal Party of Canada now more left-wing than the NDP???

All of which is silly, because ALL the major parties in Canada are crammed together in the middle......
 

JLM

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Deficit or GST hike? Which would you prefer?

There are better choices than either one of those. M.P.s qualify for a pension for life after about 6 years, that should be changed to 35 years like everyone else. Then there are the $20 breakfasts when they are out of their ridiing, cut those back to about $8. Never mind the trough, I'll bet if what spilled over the top of the trough was recycled, you could probably feed a city the size of Regina. :smile:
 

Ron in Regina

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There are better choices than either one of those. M.P.s qualify for a pension for life after about 6 years, that should be changed to 35 years like everyone else. Then there are the $20 breakfasts when they are out of their ridiing, cut those back to about $8. Never mind the trough, I'll bet if what spilled over the top of the trough was recycled, you could probably feed a city the size of Regina. :smile:


Mmmmm......Ralph Goodales 1/2 eaten breakfast....



Oh Joy! I think I'll pass on that one myself...
 

Colpy

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And here it is guys....the reason the Conservatives must win a majority.........

It is majority government or bust for the Conservatives in the coming election. The more the leaders of the Liberal party, the NDP and the Bloc Québécois talk, the more it becomes apparent that they are prepared to form a coalition of losers, in the event the House of Commons returns in something approximating its current form.
Some commentators have questioned why bother having an election, when the polls suggest it will return a House of Commons that looks remarkably similar.
But Stephen Harper’s time as a leader of a minority government is up. Even if he wins the most seats in Parliament, it is inconceivable that the opposition parties would allow him to govern. There is simply too much bad blood and ill-will for Mr. Harper to be able to prise one opposition party away from the others.
In that event, the Governor-General would be obliged to ask if anyone else could form a government. It is becoming ever more clear that Michael Ignatieff and Jack Layton, backed by Gilles Duceppe, would be happy to revive their 2008 coalition and give the Tories the boot for good.

John Ivison: Coalition looking likely as Harper fights for a majority | Full Comment | National Post

Outrageous!

Unless the Liberals firmly commit to no coalition with the Bloc Quebecois, there is only one choice if you give a damn about this country.

Vote Conservative.

I urge any and all of you that intend on voting Liberal (or NDP) to raise hell over this with your candidate. We need a firm commitment this will not happen.....

or we have to give the Conservatives a majority.
 

Colpy

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The LIBERAL Hidden Agenda.....oh I love it!!!!!

Based on the current poll numbers,.... the Tories are set for a majority. But it’s still very possible, even likely, that they’ll be held to yet another minority, in which case virtually everyone in the country assumes the left-leaning parties will ponder another coalition. They’d be mad not to, and they do, indeed, have parliamentary tradition on their side for such a move. It’s democratically legitimate and perfectly legal (the frightening prospect of the Bloc’s involvement does not sit well with many Canadians, but distasteful as it is, it doesn’t break any laws.)
The problem facing the Liberals is that while a coalition is constitutionally legitimate, it remains to be seen whether Canadian voters will find it politically palatable. And the longer the Liberals act like they have cotton in their ears whenever the question is posed to them, the more difficult it will become to sell an otherwise viable option to voters, before or after the election. A voter who might be inclined to accept/tolerate a Liberal-NDP coalition (with or without the Bloc) might still be put off by the Liberals refusing to discuss it. This time, it’ll be the Liberals being accused of having a hidden agenda. And don’t imagine for one minute the Tories wouldn’t love a chance to hoist the Liberals on that particular petard.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...n-the-coalition-of-the-unwilling-to-admit-it/
 

petros

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A conspiracy theory? Get your political tin foil hat on Colpy. The Liberals are going to fire up their sattelite based brain beam.
 

petros

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There is one of those across the city but I think he is in Ottawa right now. I gotta ask him about the brain beam. That sounds handy.
 

Unforgiven

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Oh I see, yet another right wing opinionist handing out supposed Liberal policy. Being a good and upstanding citizen of Canada, let me help you shake off that burden of sensational fear mongering and point you in the direction of the facts. Liberal Party of Canada - Canada's progressive, compassionate & responsible alternative Stop listening to what people with an agenda tell you is the Liberal policy and go look it up fro yourself. It's good for you to have a mind of your own Colpy.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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I guess a Conservative/Green coalition is out of the question huh?

You'd get the political equivalent of a total matter-to-energy conversion if you tried to combine the Greens with the conservatives. Harper is all about protecting the fossil fuel sector which anybody who actually believes the evidence knows is either doomed to obselesence or we are.
 

Machjo

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As for contempt for the Bloc specificaly, I just don't get it. Though I'm not much of a fan of partisan politics per se, I don't see the difference between a bloc supported by Quebec sovereignists and a Conservative Party often backed by xenophobes who want to kick Quebec out and marginalize the legitimate democratically elected representatives of the people of Quebec in parliament.

If the goal is to promote canadian unity, certainly marginalizing the legitimate representatives of the Quebec people in Parliament is the way to do it.
 

petros

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You'd get the political equivalent of a total matter-to-energy conversion if you tried to combine the Greens with the conservatives. Harper is all about protecting the fossil fuel sector which anybody who actually believes the evidence knows is either doomed to obselesence or we are.
It may a good source of energy. Fusion is the future!

The oil industry will be producing for your great great children.
 

wulfie68

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As for contempt for the Bloc specificaly, I just don't get it. Though I'm not much of a fan of partisan politics per se, I don't see the difference between a bloc supported by Quebec sovereignists and a Conservative Party often backed by xenophobes who want to kick Quebec out and marginalize the legitimate democratically elected representatives of the people of Quebec in parliament.

If the goal is to promote canadian unity, certainly marginalizing the legitimate representatives of the Quebec people in Parliament is the way to do it.

The difference the Bloc puts Quebec before Canada. No other party does that, not even the "xenophobes backing the Conservative Party" (who admittedly exist but a) are small enough in number so as to be effectively politically non-existent and b) tend to disappear into the woodwork except when attempts to appease Quebec sovereigntists effectively grant them more rights than other Canadians.
 

Machjo

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The difference the Bloc puts Quebec before Canada. No other party does that, not even the "xenophobes backing the Conservative Party" (who admittedly exist but a) are small enough in number so as to be effectively politically non-existent and b) tend to disappear into the woodwork except when attempts to appease Quebec sovereigntists effectively grant them more rights than other Canadians.

I still don't see the difference. Some put their province first. Some put ideology first. Some put their constituents first. Few put Canada or principle first. Looking at it that way, most MPs are likely not fit to form part of a government (the Bloc is hardly unique on that front). And if it is so contemptible for Quebec to vote for a sovereignist party, then who will draw up the list of acceptable ideas that can be expressed in parliament? And who will dictate that those constituencies who vote for a particular candidate will have to forfeit representation in Parliament? I ask because essentially by implication to try to marginalize the Block is simply an unofficial equavalent to passing legislation listing approved ideas to be voiced in the House.