A small step toward First Nations accountability

[gerryh]

I am willing to listen to further discussion on this at a later time. But the day you march into the forum and declare a large number of our nation, of our members, of people's families, to be nothing but scum and garbage... you're taking a walk for a while.

If I remember correctly, one of the things I did that "earned" me at least 30 days was a comment during remembrance day about who was murderers.

I appreciate that sentiment, but you know I am a stalwart supporter of free speech.

And before you say it, I know no one has been silenced, but his voice has been stifled here, and you know I will always react to that, the way I do.

But I do respect your position and decision. So I will leave it at that.

See, it's time like these that you show you're an intelligent half breed.

 

[CDNBear]

If I remember correctly, one of the things I did that "earned" me at least 30 days was a comment during remembrance day about who was murderers.[/quote[I missed that, was it the Catholics?

J/K!!!

See, it's time like these that you show you're an intelligent status half breed.

fify, and thanx!

I think...8O

 

[karrie]

Sorry gerry, I have to disagree. You lean to the left, therefor you've never actually been infracted, timed out, or otherwise reprimanded on this forum

 

[CDNBear]

Sorry gerry, I have to disagree. You lean to the left, therefor you've never actually been infracted, timed out, or otherwise reprimanded on this forum

Hey, that's true!!!

What gives!!!???

Now this is a logical inconsistency!!!

 

[gerryh]

Sorry gerry, I have to disagree. You lean to the left, therefor you've never actually been infracted, timed out, or otherwise reprimanded on this forum

roflmfao...... I guess I was delusional.

 

[CDNBear]

roflmfao...... I guess I was delusional.

Ummm...oh forget it, the set up was to easy!!!

;-)

 

[Cannuck]

II'm not saying what I said was right. It wasn't. I made racist commentary. I shouldn't have. There is no excuse for it. That doesn't mean what he did in degrading my culture is okay. He and everybody that has made comments denying Metis people a right to their own culture and distinction were also being rapist and that INJUSTICE lead to the racist commentary, even though it doesn't excuse it. It is still wrong that only I was singled out for inappropriate behavior in here when on the whole, I was actually the one being attacked by people diminishing and undermining my heritage and people.

Degrading people's intelligence is OK. Race is not allowed. Religion is allowed as long as you are attacking Muslims or Joos. You should get this stuff straight before you start to comment.

 

[gerryh]

I didn't march in. CDNbear tried to define what being Metis is. That is not acceptable. He has no right to tell anybody that their heritage and culture is not a heritage and culture and that anybody with Native ancestry and other ancestry is a member of that same culture as Metis that have ancestry that were distinct. that is actually racism and should not be tolerated. He has no right to make those assertions.

If I came in here and said, "hey I have Dutch, Norse and germanic heritage so therefore I am a Brit, because that's where their heritage comes form, and anybody that has a mix of norse and germanic blood is also a Brit, on the same level as any other brit, regardless of the other brits having ancestry that fought (literally) for that culture and heritage (as did my ancestors for the Metis cause in the red river rebellion) , it would not be tolerated or permitted. but on here, this forum, YOU are allowing a Native to tell a Metis that he has no heritage because any other Native, like himself, can turn around and reproduce with a white person creating what you are.

how is that tolerable? ask yourself that. It is not enough to say that somebody is a metis becaus ethe word means something and they still have their culture even if some Natives join their ranks, with no ancestry in that culture, and that doesn't effect things? It's ridiculous. Of course it effects things. If you're not distinct, and any Native being one generation away from joing your nation means you are not distinct no matter how you try to spin it, than that is racism. He is degrading my culture. how can this not be clearly visible to you, karrie? Is it because you personally don't like me because of anther thread? it would certainly appear that way from here.

I'm not saying what I said was right. It wasn't. I made racist commentary. I shouldn't have. There is no excuse for it. That doesn't mean what he did in degrading my culture is okay. He and everybody that has made comments denying Metis people a right to their own culture and distinction were also being rapist and that INJUSTICE lead to the racist commentary, even though it doesn't excuse it. It is still wrong that only I was singled out for inappropriate behavior in here when on the whole, I was actually the one being attacked by people diminishing and undermining my heritage and people.

ummmm... you do realize that logging in under another nick after being handed a timeout is grounds for permanent banning.

 

[CDNBear]

I didn't march in. CDNbear tried to define what being Metis is.

I didn't define what Metis is. That is what Metis means moron!

That is not acceptable.

What isn't acceptable is the silliness that is, "CDNBear tried to define what being a Metis is.

He has no right to tell anybody that their heritage and culture is not a heritage and culture and that anybody with Native ancestry and other ancestry is a member of that same culture as Metis that have ancestry that were distinct.

Again, it's not my opinion, it's fact. According to law, legislation, the provincial Metis councils and reality!

that is actually racism and should not be tolerated. He has no right to make those assertions.

That's not racist, they aren't assertions. Those are the facts.

If I came in here and said, "hey I have Dutch, Norse and germanic heritage so therefore I am a Brit, because that's where their heritage comes form, and anybody that has a mix of norse and germanic blood is also a Brit, on the same level as any other brit, regardless of the other brits having ancestry that fought (literally) for that culture and heritage (as did my ancestors for the Metis cause in the red river rebellion) , it would not be tolerated or permitted. but on here, this forum, YOU are allowing a Native to tell a Metis that he has no heritage because any other Native, like himself, can turn around and reproduce with a white person creating what you are.

I never once said the Metis had no heritage.

how is that tolerable?

Because it wasn't said.

ask yourself that.

Ask yourself what? Why am I trying to communicate with the brain dead? I like the fun of it.

It is not enough to say that somebody is a metis becaus ethe word means something and they still have their culture even if some Natives join their ranks, with no ancestry in that culture, and that doesn't effect things?

Not my question to answer. Try talking to your MP.

It's ridiculous.

I agree, your post is, very much so.

Of course it effects things. If you're not distinct, and any Native being one generation away from joing your nation means you are not distinct no matter how you try to spin it, than that is racism.

It's not racism and from what i have seen, all new comers join the culture with glee. Even the Black Metis.

He is degrading my culture.

I did no such thing, you were doing a fine job on your own.

how can this not be clearly visible to you, karrie?

Because it isn't true.

Is it because you personally don't like me because of anther thread? it would certainly appear that way from here.

From here it appears you have difficulty with reality.

I'm not saying what I said was right. It wasn't. I made racist commentary. I shouldn't have. There is no excuse for it.

Wow, I'm amazed you recognize that....

That doesn't mean what he did in degrading my culture is okay.

But think that's reality.

He and everybody that has made comments denying Metis people a right to their own culture and distinction were also being rapist and that INJUSTICE lead to the racist commentary, even though it doesn't excuse it.

No body said anything derogatory about Metis culture. Try showing us where.

It is still wrong that only I was singled out for inappropriate behavior in here when on the whole, I was actually the one being attacked by people diminishing and undermining my heritage and people.

Wow, lose grip on reality often?

 

[Cannuck]

I have the right to that opinion and i should have the right to not have my race defined by somebody from another race on a God damned forum, that is unfair and racist.

There is no such thing as racism if it is perpetrated by a visible minority. Don't you know anything about Affirmative Action?

 

[PoliticalNick]

Degrading people's intelligence is OK. Race is not allowed. Religion is allowed as long as you are attacking Muslims or Joos. You should get this stuff straight before you start to comment.

First off its Jews not joos. The mispelling is offensive as I happen to be one and have a book of all the good Jew jokes to prove it.

 

[CDNBear]

Degrading people's intelligence is OK. Race is not allowed. Religion is allowed as long as you are attacking Muslims or Joos. You should get this stuff straight before you start to comment.

Still can't debate the topic eh?

Oh and you forgot Christians troll.

I'm obviously not going to stick around and debate this crap. I will take my ban and leave. it just has to be pointed out that this is bull****. it's not bull**** that I was banned, although the term is bull****, but it is bull**** that anybody is allowed to tell another person on this forum that their heritage is not disctinct. that is racism.

Who said your culture wasn't distinct?

already perma-banned, and the point had to be made, i wasn't here attacking anyone with this I was just here to set the facts straight because it is unfair to be discriminated against like that, on the grounds of your race.

You mean like your commentary about First Nations?

I'd love to see you show me any thing in this thread that was remotely in the same context about Metis.

I am a proud Metis.

Well at least you started capitalizing the word.

I don't tolerate anybody hitching onto my race pretending to be Metis when they are not.

Back to that nonsense again?

I have the right to that opinion and i should have the right to not have my race defined by somebody from another race on a God damned forum, that is unfair and racist.

You're right, you are entitle to your opinion, just as I am entitled to mine, in which I prove your posts moronic. The racism just jumped off the page without my help. You and Cannuck have a lot in common.

 

[Johnnny]

Bear, he's from Sask. And, no offense to Ron or even to Skatch, but, Saskatchewan is uniquely racist when it comes to the First Nations. Thus, the First Nations people there are really truly, some of the most unsuccessful in our nation, fulfilling their 'justification' for being racist and loathing them. Being someone with Native blood in Saskatchewan would be pretty motivating to develop a stringent, adamant set of reasons that you are NOT associated with them, NOT descended from them, that you are completely and totally different. Just incase anyone asks.

Saskatchewan is messed up. In places like La loche and La ronge the natives are hostile to almost everyone not from there, even the natives from Ontario that work with me. Ive only had one close call kinda.

Trust me ive been to those places, ive even seen the 89lb Lake trout mounted on the wall at the La Ronge Trading Post

 

[Cannuck]

Still can't debate the topic eh?

Can. Won't

 

[CDNBear]

Can't. Won't try

fify

Which really is a shame, I truly wanted to expose your logical inconsistencies. Such as precedent.

 

[PoliticalNick]

fify?

 

[CDNBear]

fify?

Fixed it for you. Humourously applied when you know what the person really means.

 

[Cannuck]

fify

I truly wanted to expose your logical inconsistencies.

I'm sure you did. Unfortunately for you, they don't exist.

 

[CDNBear]

I'm sure you did. Unfortunately for you, they don't exist.

I'm sure you actually believe that.

But since you can't debate me like a mature adult, I guess we'll have to rest it on the weight of the evidence already exposed about you.

 

[karrie]

haha... you guys bothered reading that? I just 'spam functioned' it. Oh well.