He's talking about the environment,totally relevant to the thread,things grow back,thats his point.
Both those eruptions pumped out more bad **** then the oilsands will ever.
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He's talking about the environment,totally relevant to the thread,things grow back,thats his point.
Both those eruptions pumped out more bad **** then the oilsands will ever.
A reminder, you toad: the topic =
U.S. ambassador in Alberta to learn about oilsands
Its over expanding they say that albertans are the minority in the oil sands. To me thats one of the many indicators that its over expanding too quickly
What was it you do for a living Kakato? I understood you were a heavy equipment operator.
I worked for Bechtal at Fort Mac on the first tar sands plant in the mid sixties as a field engineer. I have since travelled back maybe a half dozen times. As of seven years ago very little reclamation had been done.
The tar sands remain the biggest, dirtiest, project on the face of the earth.
"A reminder, you toad: the topic =
U.S. ambassador in Alberta to learn about oilsands "
Precisely, AnnaG.
I responded to a picture presented as the total destruction of the environment by the Oil Sands Project.
I simply pointed out that the damage caused in Alberta is dwarfed by the damage caused by Nature in the two examples I mentioned. Yet, a couple of years later, you would not have known that there ever was a disaster.
So, my point was that while the oil sands projects may cause temporary damage, nature is more than capable of fixing it. Alberta, Washington or Indonesia.
No need to worry, unless you are Al Gore or a blinf acolyte.
U.S. ambassador in Alberta to learn about oilsands "
Precisely, AnnaG.
I responded to a picture presented as the total destruction of the environment by the Oil Sands Project.
I simply pointed out that the damage caused in Alberta is dwarfed by the damage caused by Nature in the two examples I mentioned. Yet, a couple of years later, you would not have known that there ever was a disaster.
So, my point was that while the oil sands projects may cause temporary damage, nature is more than capable of fixing it. Alberta, Washington or Indonesia.
No need to worry, unless you are Al Gore or a blinf acolyte.
"Jack, tell me. How is mother nature doing with the mess left from Chernobyl?"
DurkaDurka, the last time I checked, Chernobyl was a NUCLEAR disaster. None of the examples I cited for the restorative powers of Nature, nor the Alberta Oil Sands Project is a nuclear disaster.
Surely you can see the difference.
DurkaDurka, the last time I checked, Chernobyl was a NUCLEAR disaster. None of the examples I cited for the restorative powers of Nature, nor the Alberta Oil Sands Project is a nuclear disaster.
Surely you can see the difference.
That's fine, Jack, but does man really need to add to nature's deeds? No.
Toad, just for your information as you mentioned open pit mines, they do NOT approach anywhere near the area of the sands as you suggested, and there are 8 of them:
8 operating open pit mines in BC:
Iron Concentrates Ops
Huckleberry
Mount Polley
Kemess
Gibraltar
Teck Cominco
Highland Valley
Endako
The area of each is measured in hectares, not square kilometers as is the tar sands.
BC is 944,735 sq km (364,800 sq mi)
Brenda Mine was closed and was 914 meters in diameter with a 87 hectare tailings pond. It was reclaimed after it closed down.
The largest of them is the Highland Valley mine near Kamloops and is composed of a few open pits, each smaller than the Brenda mine.
Yes dear,those are the deposits,not operating mines.Theres no mine in cold lake unless they built it since I was there this spring.:roll:
Can you differentiate between a deposit and an operating mine?
Here's some info about the tar sands as of Feb/08:
- Oil sands mining is licensed to use twice the amount of fresh water that the entire city of Calgary uses in a year.
- At least 90% of the fresh water used in the oil sands ends up in ends up in tailing ponds so toxic that propane cannons are used to keep ducks from landing in them.
- Processing the oil sands uses enough natural gas in a day to heat 3 million homes in Canada.
- The tailing ponds are considered one of the largest human-made structures in the world. The ponds span 50 square kilometers and can be seen from space.
- Producing a barrel of oil from the oil sands produces three times more gas emissions than a barrel of conventional oil.
- The oil sands operations are the fastest growing source of gas emissions in Canada. By 2020 the oil sands will release twice the amount produced currently by all the cars and trucks in Canada. - Sticky Icky Tar … Canadian Tar Sands and US-Canadian Relations
- Oil sands mining is licensed to use twice the amount of fresh water that the entire city of Calgary uses in a year.
- At least 90% of the fresh water used in the oil sands ends up in ends up in tailing ponds so toxic that propane cannons are used to keep ducks from landing in them.
- Processing the oil sands uses enough natural gas in a day to heat 3 million homes in Canada.
- The tailing ponds are considered one of the largest human-made structures in the world. The ponds span 50 square kilometers and can be seen from space.
- Producing a barrel of oil from the oil sands produces three times more gas emissions than a barrel of conventional oil.
- The oil sands operations are the fastest growing source of gas emissions in Canada. By 2020 the oil sands will release twice the amount produced currently by all the cars and trucks in Canada. - Sticky Icky Tar … Canadian Tar Sands and US-Canadian Relations
Teck cominco has 5 mines in the elk valley alone,you missed a few and just posted the companys,not the actuall mines.
Fine. What is the area of the operation then?
Up your rosy red, Peewee. I'm not as stupid as ypu look.
Let me know if you need to be shown the difference between a deposit and the oilsand operation near fort mac.
So? When they are measured in hectares, what's a couple here or there? What's the working area of the sands?
It''s a whole bloody mountain range about 80 miles long and 20 wide and another mountain range right over the "pristine" flathead valley.No ones allowed within ten miles of the mine boundarys and it encompasses a land mass way larger then the oilsands is useing right now. Thats coal mountain,elkview,line creek,greenhills and the big fording mine in elkford.all teck mines.Then theres tent mountain which just sits there,no reclaim,these mines typically take a mountain and move it as overburden to the next valley.
It's a big operation but their reclamation percentage is still the highest in the industry.
My stepdad ran the big bucketwheel back then for Fording.
I hear the camp was pretty wild.
You also forgot tumbler ridge,yes they are mining there still.
I worked with lots of the peeps from Brenda mine,they were dumping the waste rock right into the ocean.