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Colpy

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I just found out that steel buckshot doesn't travel as far as lead is that true?

More or less.

Steel shot is lighter (a LOT lighter) than lead....therefore it does mot maintain its momentum, and is much, much less effective than the same size shot made out of lead. It's non-toxic if ingested, which is now mandatory for shooting ducks.......

It does not penetrate as well.

Nobody, therefore, makes steel BUCKSHOT, as that is intended for use against larger animals, and penetration is essential.
 

earth_as_one

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What's wrong with having to show you have the right to possess a firearm whenever you buy ammo? That would make it more difficult for someone possessing a firearm illegally to buy ammo legally. A pain for sure, but owning a firearm isn't a right in Canada.
 

ironsides

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What's wrong with having to show you have the right to possess a firearm whenever you buy ammo? That would make it more difficult for someone possessing a firearm illegally to buy ammo legally. A pain for sure, but owning a firearm isn't a right in Canada.


Nothing is wrong with having to show a license in order to buy ammo in Canada, but it is to bad that owning a firearm isn't a right in Canada.
 

Dexter Sinister

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There you go, you learn something new everyday. Where does misdemeanor fit in? Maybe that is more Yank.
I'm not a lawyer, but I think what U.S. law calls felonies and misdemeanors in Canadian law are called indictable and summary offenses respectively, we don't use the terms felony and misdemeanor. A crime, strictly speaking, is just a violation of the Criminal Code, and any particular deed I think may also be an indictable or a summary offense, depending on how serious it is. I'm sure Google could tell you far more than you ever wanted to know about it. I've never run afoul of the law, and never studied it either, and thus had no need to find. And I haven't had my first coffee of the day yet, so I'm not motivated to look it up just now. :smile:
 

JLM

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I'm not a lawyer, but I think what U.S. law calls felonies and misdemeanors in Canadian law are called indictable and summary offenses respectively, we don't use the terms felony and misdemeanor. A crime, strictly speaking, is just a violation of the Criminal Code, and any particular deed I think may also be an indictable or a summary offense, depending on how serious it is. I'm sure Google could tell you far more than you ever wanted to know about it. I've never run afoul of the law, and never studied it either, and thus had no need to find. And I haven't had my first coffee of the day yet, so I'm not motivated to look it up just now. :smile:

Good enough for the girls I go with..........:lol:
 

bobnoorduyn

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What's wrong with having to show you have the right to possess a firearm whenever you buy ammo? That would make it more difficult for someone possessing a firearm illegally to buy ammo legally.

You don't require a license or permit to buy ingredients to make your own ammo, but somehow the criminals seem to have ample supplies of the factory stuff. As a matter of fact, the only time I buy factory ammo is when I start running out of brass, and its been about two years since I've had to do that. The surpluss store up the highway from me sells 9mm brass by the bucketful.


but owning a firearm isn't a right in Canada.

It used to be, but many of our important rights have been stripped from us while we were sleeping.
 
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bobnoorduyn

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What about the people who just like to collect firearms in Canada, not hunt or do anything else, which is a pretty open but valid reason to own firearms, can they obtain a license/permit to do so?

They've really started to clamp down on collectors, but yes you can obtain a license for that, unless you live in Quebec, they make it virtually impossible, go figure. With all the hoops you have to jump through to be a collector a person is better off being a shooter.
 

bobnoorduyn

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Yes...there is that....and the fact that this program was suppose to cost in
at about $2,000,000.00 or so & is currently well over $2,000,000,000.00
which is a cost overrun of over 1000 TIMES as much as it was suppose to.
It's not truly in place yet either, as the opening post points out.

In a country of only 33,000,000 (or so) people, this should have cost about
$0.06 for every man, woman, and child in the nation. At this point it has (so
far) cost over $60.60 and is climbing for every single person in the nation.
That's ummm....that's not good...and that's assuming that everyone pays
their portion. If not, then those that're paying, just pay more for those that
aren't. Nice, eh?

The numbers I'm using are most likely out of date at this point too 'cuz it's
Sunday and I'm to lazy to look them up again at this point.

I figured it out once, you could pay 200 people in Miramachi $50,000/year, for 100 years, just send them home and achieve the same result without the associated heartburn.
 

Ron in Regina

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I figured it out once, you could pay 200 people in Miramachi $50,000/year, for 100 years, just send them home and achieve the same result without the associated heartburn.


I just ran through your math (& looked up Miramachi 8O). I'm assuming
you figured this out a while back, 'cuz at this point you could up the
number of people to over 400....:-|:-(
 

bobnoorduyn

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I just ran through your math (& looked up Miramachi 8O). I'm assuming
you figured this out a while back, 'cuz at this point you could up the
number of people to over 400....:-|:-(

Yeah, it was a couple years back, but I guess now you could've paid the original 200 for 200 years :lol: should they live so long.
 

petros

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And the pedant in me rises again... Actually, that's not correct. In Canada, only violations of federal law can be called crimes, and the feds have no role in vehicle registration. Lots of things you can do with a vehicle, like hit and run, are crimes, but driving an unregistered vehicle isn't one of them. That's a violation of provincial statutes, and is thus an offence, not a crime.
Better check Sask laws before you assume anything.
 

ironsides

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Anyone who really wants to save their firearms collection, just set up residence in Florida. Any home owner can own a pistol as long as it is kept in the home, unless your taking it to a range for target practice. No license required, just need a license to carry outside the home on your person.
 

AnnaG

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There are states where you can pack your sidearm around legally. I think almost all States allow some form of concealed carrying and almost all allow open carrying.
 

bobnoorduyn

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Anyone who really wants to save their firearms collection, just set up residence in Florida. Any home owner can own a pistol as long as it is kept in the home, unless your taking it to a range for target practice. No license required, just need a license to carry outside the home on your person.

I'm not sure how that would work, as a Canadian I wouldn't be a resident even if I owned property there. I can't be a resident of two countries unless I have a work visa, and some sort of landed immigrant status there would negate my residence here. But I know I can go to Alaska and buy whatever I want at the Border Bandit store and while its legal there, the Mounties in Stewart won't let me bring it back here. Ho hum, guess that's why there's a long river, and an even longer border.
 

bobnoorduyn

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There are states where you can pack your sidearm around legally. I think almost all States allow some form of concealed carrying and almost all allow open carrying.

I'm too lazy to look it up again, quite a number allow open carry, but about 40 states allow some form of concealed carry, (will issue, shall issue or may issue licenses, there are nuances to each). I believe only Vermont and Alaska are "will issue" states where if you ask you will get.

My problem with open carry is that it invites a challenge, kinda like flashing four aces at a poker game. Me, I don't want a challenge, I don't want to show my cards unless or until the challenger shows me his/hers. If they also choose to hold their cards close there may be no challenge, or there may be some bluffing, I only want to have to show my cards when the bluff becomes real, then it comes down to not who has the bigger shinier shootin' iron, but who is better with the one they have. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, but better yet not to invite the need to need it.
 

AnnaG

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lol Ok, Mr. Noorduyn. I think I understood that. I am sure that carrying an open sidearm would appear threatening to a lot of people. Hence all the licenses for concealed carrying. But that issue has its own problems, too. People might be more conscientious on the road if they knew the person they cut off had a Desert Eagle within reach. lmao