Dualism in parliament, good vs evil

Socrates the Greek

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Why is it that the Canadian Parliament is dysfunctional today after a 6 week period?
Does poor voter knowledge have anything to do with it?
Does voter apathy as a result of poor knowledge have anything to do with it?
Does poor Government performance have anything to do with it? Or is Government taking things for granted, being that poor voter knowledge allows Government to dictate rules and economic methods that do not work for the country and the people?
If poor voter knowledge is a big part of the problem what should be done about it?
 
Machjo

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I'm sorry, but when a grade 12 student in British Columbia asks the teacher how we can still have so much water in the northern part of the globe when all the water flows south, and why Australia is so dry though all the water is flowing downt to it, our education needs a serious overhaul.
 
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Socrates the Greek said:
Why is it that the Canadian Parliament is dysfunctional today after a 6 week period?
Does poor voter knowledge have anything to do with it?
Does voter apathy as a result of poor knowledge have anything to do with it?
Does poor Government performance have anything to do with it? Or is Government taking things for granted, being that poor voter knowledge allows Government to dictate rules and economic methods that do not work for the country and the people?
If poor voter knowledge is a big part of the problem what should be done about it?
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Politics.....

The pursuit of political advantage over all other considerations.....the problem ?: ALL parties participate.

The NDP seeks solace and influence by selling their socialist souls to the Seperatist devil.........and then tempting the weak of the Liberal Party.

The Conservatives, seeing a weak spot in Liberal armour (their finances) sticks a knife in by trying to cancel their gov't welfare check......

The Liberal Party, truely believe it is destined to rule, jumps into bed with the Socialist and the Seperatists in a nasty little menage a trois in which Quebec is the only one not getting......well, you know.

All to the detriment of government, all to the advantage of their own party.......

So, you pick the gang that you like best, knowing full well their reason d'etre has little to do with the good of the nation.....and more to do with power politics.

I'm not sure an increase in voter awareness would help.....in fact, I think large numbers would withdraw from the whole process, and cease voting......

(sigh)
 
L Gilbert

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Socrates the Greek said:
Why is it that the Canadian Parliament is dysfunctional today after a 6 week period?
Does poor voter knowledge have anything to do with it?
Does voter apathy as a result of poor knowledge have anything to do with it?
Does poor Government performance have anything to do with it? Or is Government taking things for granted, being that poor voter knowledge allows Government to dictate rules and economic methods that do not work for the country and the people?
If poor voter knowledge is a big part of the problem what should be done about it?
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1.Canadian Parliament has been dysunctional for years, not weeks.
2.No
3.Does poor gov't performance have anything to do with gov't dysfunction? Silly question.
4.Gov't always underestimates the voter.
5.Voters are not ignorant nor stupid. Only apathetic: unwilling to get off their lazy a$$e$ and force change.

"Dualism in parliament, good vs evil"
lol
OP is another lame attempt to demonize "them"
 
Machjo

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Colpy said:
Politics.....


I'm not sure an increase in voter awareness would help.....in fact, I think large numbers would withdraw from the whole process, and cease voting......

(sigh)
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You're probably right. I handed in a blank ballot this last election.

But if this happened on a large scale, it might send polititians a clear message. We're sick of it.
 
Machjo

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Well obviously 59% isn't low enough. Oh, and is my vote counted in that? I did turn out and put a ballot in the box, though I had no use for the pencil provided. I looked, thought about the man was was considering voting for for a second or two, hesitated, then thought even he wasn't good enough, and blank ballot it was.

Anyway, imagine if the rate of non-spoilt ballots dropped to below 50%, the rest either spoiling their ballots or not turning out at all.

Would that be enough? Or would we need something like 30% or lower before politicians really started to pay attention?
 
Machjo

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I'm wondering. What would happen if a nationwide movement arose refusing to vote in party members. If we all started voting in independent candidates only for a couple elections, I'm sure that would help break the back of party monopoly. But would people do it? Sorry, but the majority of Canadians are idiots.
 
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Machjo said:
Well obviously 59% isn't low enough. Oh, and is my vote counted in that? I did turn out and put a ballot in the box, though I had no use for the pencil provided. ......
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Yes.

Anyway, imagine if the rate of non-spoilt ballots dropped to below 50%, the rest either spoiling their ballots or not turning out at all.

Would that be enough? Or would we need something like 30% or lower before politicians really started to pay attention?
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How fast do you expect these people to react? Gov'ts move at glacial velocities.

Voters who do not vote are not counted. Only those who bother to deposit their vote in the box are counted. Spoiled votes are counted.
 
Machjo

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Maybe it's time to have a model based on the Austrailian System of voiting. If you are eleigible to vote and don't, you're fined.

Their last vote saw a 96% turnout rate
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That would be scary. I know peopel who vote for party X because their parents voted that party. I don't want such people even near the poles! I had another one who normally doesn't vote ask a local candidate last election if he'd bring her fuel costs down! Yeah, he's just going to wave a magic wand and, poof, the cost of gas will just miraculously drop! No thanks, keep such people away from the polls, the farther the better.
 
Dexter Sinister

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Machjo said:
I have to disagree here. Most Canadians are idiots.
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That's a little harsh. It's only about 25%. The bottom 25% of any population in terms of general knowledge and awareness of reality--roughly, the people who'd score less than 90 on standardized intelligence tests--is generally the people with no opinions worth taking seriously, and I hope that's most of the people who don't bother to vote. I'd be content with a voter turnout within a few points of 70%; there are always some people who can't vote for a variety of reasons--I was disenfranchised once because I moved between provinces at a bad time--and there are some who won't for what they find to be satisfactory reasons of principle, though I can't say I'm likely to agree with them.
 
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