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May 12th, 2008, 08:59 AM

I'm more intrigued to take a chance on Barak Obama.

I hope his listening skills will gain a wide circle to advise him.

Then after that, I hope his character is strong enough.
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May 12th, 2008, 09:31 AM

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Do you have any sense that Barak Obama simply "presents" well...? It's no major feat of oratory or finely honed sense of the cult of personality to look good beside George Bush, and my concern is that people may be voting for (as we all do in Canada) the "lesser of two evils".... Do you feel up to perhaps drawing a comparison based on past performance between Obama and McCain...?
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May 12th, 2008, 09:55 AM

I have one huge misgiving on McCain. His temper.
That sort of temper can put a chill on free speech inside the oval office.
He would have to work hard to ensure his circle feels safe to present unpalatable issues to him.

Other than that, this guy is a giant in many ways. I've respected him for years.
And I wanted him to beat Bush in 2000.

Obama will make many mistakes if he doesn't use his greatest attributes: his open mind, his willingness to change the psychic landscape, and his ability to listen.

But more than this discussion of Kings and Queens, I prefer the people take on more burdens, more self introspection, more challenge. Real change comes from the ground up.
Socrates said Know thyself. We should start a national conversation on challenging ourselves more than we demand of our leaders.
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May 12th, 2008, 10:10 AM

Thanks for the precis Jim.

It's tough to "know thyself" when you've been conditioned to schizophrenic ambivalence...
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May 16th, 2008, 12:51 AM

The time has come for Hillary's swan song....
Who could tell Clinton to quit?


Al Gore is probably the most obvious choice.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7396501.stm
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May 16th, 2008, 10:36 AM

Quoting MikeyDB
Thanks for the precis Jim.

It's tough to "know thyself" when you've been conditioned to schizophrenic ambivalence...
You're way too hard on yourself.
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May 16th, 2008, 11:09 AM

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No I'm not. There's "me"..."myself" and "I" so if you have any criticisms please submit them in triplicate....
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May 16th, 2008, 12:44 PM

Obama's speech this morning, was direct, and needed, a come back, to the dust up
that bush and mc cain made an attempt to do yesterday. keep em comin obama, that
was good.
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