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January 21st, 2008, 12:41 PM
save all of us. you must have millions following you, as you wish what we all wish, and
because of your posts, you must be gathering the country around you, so we can follow
you, and begin our recovery and return to respectability.
We will quickly push you into the forefront of this country, elect you as an independent, if that's what you are, and you can take us to the promiseland.
I'm waiting!!!!!
Quoting darkbeaver
So, what I want to know from you is this. I want your website, of your party, that will
If you invest your love and trust in Obama you will be disappointed again Jim. There are no choices, there is no democracy neither in your country nor in mine, there is only rule by money and power.
save all of us. you must have millions following you, as you wish what we all wish, and
because of your posts, you must be gathering the country around you, so we can follow
you, and begin our recovery and return to respectability.
We will quickly push you into the forefront of this country, elect you as an independent, if that's what you are, and you can take us to the promiseland.
I'm waiting!!!!!
jimmoyer
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Location: Winchester Virginia
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January 21st, 2008, 12:43 PM
LOL !!
The Dark Beaverishness is a good spirit, who would gleefuly dance at the burning American-Roman Empire. By the way, just in case it might happen, I've been getting assurances (ha! ) from those types who are self-sufficient who can live off the land already to let me and the "Senator", my wife, move in. What do we bring to the table? I'm excellent using a 22. I'll spend my savings on supplies coming in. If there's time.
'Course, good ole' Canada will go down the tubes too just because they're a neighboring bystander. Life is not fair.
But that's the neighborhood.
LOL !!
The Dark Beaverishness is a good spirit, who would gleefuly dance at the burning American-Roman Empire. By the way, just in case it might happen, I've been getting assurances (ha! ) from those types who are self-sufficient who can live off the land already to let me and the "Senator", my wife, move in. What do we bring to the table? I'm excellent using a 22. I'll spend my savings on supplies coming in. If there's time.
'Course, good ole' Canada will go down the tubes too just because they're a neighboring bystander. Life is not fair.
But that's the neighborhood.
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January 21st, 2008, 02:36 PM
Quoting jimshort19
Let's talk about your brand of New Improved Jumbo Opoto-rama-ism Mr Short.Firstly, what possible basis for optimism do you have? Could it be a crashing stock market or the housing crisis or the genocide conducted by Isreal against the Palestinians, or the desperately wished for bombing of Iran or the continued phoney war on manufactured terrorism. Just what exactly is your basis for optimism. Could you actually believe in the Chrisimian-Jewdeo-Islavemic god or are you just plain insane. I think plain insane is in the main and thus the pain of your refrain wait there's hope in yonder drain.
Jimoyer, you just got flamed by DarkBeaver Attack Macro number five. Not Channel No. 5, but Bullschit No. 5.
It's kind of funny when you realize that you can throw a ton of bullschit all the way around the world to fall on DarkBeaver's own head by expressing the least bit of optimism. But he loves it so. What can you do? Do it again please.
It's kind of funny when you realize that you can throw a ton of bullschit all the way around the world to fall on DarkBeaver's own head by expressing the least bit of optimism. But he loves it so. What can you do? Do it again please.
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January 21st, 2008, 02:39 PM
Why...are you planing on flushing yourself down it?
Quoting darkbeaver
I think plain insane is in the main and thus the pain of your refrain wait there's hope in yonder drain.
Why...are you planing on flushing yourself down it?
jimmoyer
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Location: Winchester Virginia
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January 21st, 2008, 02:53 PM
By the way, Ron Paul, isn't too far off the truth. It's easy to portray him as some wacko.
But his questioning of the treasury of lives and taxpayer money for empire in Iraq is pretty valid.
He expresses the libertarian wing of the Republicans. Small government. Little intereference in anything.
The Republicans have gone big government.
He's also right that monetary policy (anything controlling the size of the money supply) is a much better solution than fiscal policy (cutting down expenditures).
By the way, Ron Paul, isn't too far off the truth. It's easy to portray him as some wacko.
But his questioning of the treasury of lives and taxpayer money for empire in Iraq is pretty valid.
He expresses the libertarian wing of the Republicans. Small government. Little intereference in anything.
The Republicans have gone big government.
He's also right that monetary policy (anything controlling the size of the money supply) is a much better solution than fiscal policy (cutting down expenditures).
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January 21st, 2008, 02:59 PM
Ron Paul’s right-wing worldview
In contrast to Kucinich, Ron Paul’s lone appeal to the left is his vocal opposition to the Iraq war. Paul is a long-standing Republican who brandishes his right-wing libertarian worldview, consisting of standard reactionary fare—much of it coinciding with that of traditional states’ rights segregationists and the Christian right. For years, Paul has dodged accusations about his past murky association with an assortment of noxious right-wing newsletters. The January 8 edition of The New Republic contains an exposé by assistant editor James Kirchick that documents the bigotry contained in newsletters dating back to the 1970s–all “published under a banner containing Paul’s name.” Paul unconvincingly denies that he was aware of the vile content of these newsletters bearing his stamp of approval—over a period of decades.
But one need look no further than Paul’s own policy statements to determine the overarching political character of his campaign. His opposition to immigration is linked to his opposition to basic welfare provisions for U.S. born workers. In an article entitled “Immigration and the Welfare State,” Paul argued, “Our current welfare system also encourages illegal immigration by discouraging American citizens from taking low-wage jobs.” He voices admiration for Senator Robert Taft, the virulent opponent of 1930s New Deal reforms who went on to co-sponsor the 1947 Taft-Hartley Act, strangling the rights of union workers to this day.
Opponents of U.S. imperialism should also take note that Paul’s anti-immigration policy specifically targets Mexicans crossing the U.S.’s Southern border and immigrants hailing from so-called “terrorist” [Arab and Muslim] countries. U.S. imperialism has historically regarded Latin America as its low-wage backyard, while rising racism against Arabs and Muslims has accompanied more recent imperialist forays in the Middle East. “With our virtually unguarded borders, almost any determined individual – including a potential terrorist – can enter the United States,” Paul has argued. His television ad aired prior to the New Hampshire primary advocates a draconian clampdown on immigration that rivals that of Tom Tancredo: “No amnesty. No welfare to illegal aliens. End birthright citizenship. No more student visas from terrorist nations. Standing up for the rule of law… Ron Paul for President.”
Ron Paul is not an open racist, but he opposes every federally mandated historical advance for African-Americans, from Reconstruction to affirmative action. In a December 23 appearance on “Meet the Press,” Paul described the U.S. Civil War as “senseless” and criticized Abraham Lincoln for getting “rid of the original intent of the republic.” Paul also stands in proud opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He was the only member of Congress to vote against its fortieth anniversary commemoration. He justified his no vote in an article entitled “The Trouble With Forced Integration,” in which he argued, “The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over the hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country… [T]he only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a business’s workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or judge’s defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing employers to hire by racial quota.”
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/0...lippery-slope/
Quoting talloola
I not surprised about your waiting talloola, nor am I surprised about you needing to be lead. Why don't you consider some alternative, instead of clinging to obvious tired old fantasys. You're old enough to know that you will never see substantial change with the same old players.When was it ever different in your lifetime? You got my recommendations on socialism and my ideas about capitalism, if you can't or won't read to save yourself why should I bother with you further? You like the circus, fine be satisfied with the clowns then. So, what I want to know from you is this. I want your website, of your party, that will
save all of us. you must have millions following you, as you wish what we all wish, and
because of your posts, you must be gathering the country around you, so we can follow
you, and begin our recovery and return to respectability.
We will quickly push you into the forefront of this country, elect you as an independent, if that's what you are, and you can take us to the promiseland.
I'm waiting!!!!!
save all of us. you must have millions following you, as you wish what we all wish, and
because of your posts, you must be gathering the country around you, so we can follow
you, and begin our recovery and return to respectability.
We will quickly push you into the forefront of this country, elect you as an independent, if that's what you are, and you can take us to the promiseland.
I'm waiting!!!!!
Ron Paul’s right-wing worldview
In contrast to Kucinich, Ron Paul’s lone appeal to the left is his vocal opposition to the Iraq war. Paul is a long-standing Republican who brandishes his right-wing libertarian worldview, consisting of standard reactionary fare—much of it coinciding with that of traditional states’ rights segregationists and the Christian right. For years, Paul has dodged accusations about his past murky association with an assortment of noxious right-wing newsletters. The January 8 edition of The New Republic contains an exposé by assistant editor James Kirchick that documents the bigotry contained in newsletters dating back to the 1970s–all “published under a banner containing Paul’s name.” Paul unconvincingly denies that he was aware of the vile content of these newsletters bearing his stamp of approval—over a period of decades.
But one need look no further than Paul’s own policy statements to determine the overarching political character of his campaign. His opposition to immigration is linked to his opposition to basic welfare provisions for U.S. born workers. In an article entitled “Immigration and the Welfare State,” Paul argued, “Our current welfare system also encourages illegal immigration by discouraging American citizens from taking low-wage jobs.” He voices admiration for Senator Robert Taft, the virulent opponent of 1930s New Deal reforms who went on to co-sponsor the 1947 Taft-Hartley Act, strangling the rights of union workers to this day.
Opponents of U.S. imperialism should also take note that Paul’s anti-immigration policy specifically targets Mexicans crossing the U.S.’s Southern border and immigrants hailing from so-called “terrorist” [Arab and Muslim] countries. U.S. imperialism has historically regarded Latin America as its low-wage backyard, while rising racism against Arabs and Muslims has accompanied more recent imperialist forays in the Middle East. “With our virtually unguarded borders, almost any determined individual – including a potential terrorist – can enter the United States,” Paul has argued. His television ad aired prior to the New Hampshire primary advocates a draconian clampdown on immigration that rivals that of Tom Tancredo: “No amnesty. No welfare to illegal aliens. End birthright citizenship. No more student visas from terrorist nations. Standing up for the rule of law… Ron Paul for President.”
Ron Paul is not an open racist, but he opposes every federally mandated historical advance for African-Americans, from Reconstruction to affirmative action. In a December 23 appearance on “Meet the Press,” Paul described the U.S. Civil War as “senseless” and criticized Abraham Lincoln for getting “rid of the original intent of the republic.” Paul also stands in proud opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He was the only member of Congress to vote against its fortieth anniversary commemoration. He justified his no vote in an article entitled “The Trouble With Forced Integration,” in which he argued, “The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over the hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country… [T]he only way the federal government could ensure an employer was not violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was to ensure that the racial composition of a business’s workforce matched the racial composition of a bureaucrat or judge’s defined body of potential employees. Thus, bureaucrats began forcing employers to hire by racial quota.”
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/0...lippery-slope/
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January 21st, 2008, 04:36 PM
Quoting jimmoyer
Yeah Jim if you think those who control monetary policy will let that ****head do anything remotely threatening to thier monopoly you're crazy, he'll end up like JFK did for exactly the same reasons.
By the way, Ron Paul, isn't too far off the truth. It's easy to portray him as some wacko.
But his questioning of the treasury of lives and taxpayer money for empire in Iraq is pretty valid.
He expresses the libertarian wing of the Republicans. Small government. Little intereference in anything.
The Republicans have gone big government.
He's also right that monetary policy (anything controlling the size of the money supply) is a much better solution than fiscal policy (cutting down expenditures).
But his questioning of the treasury of lives and taxpayer money for empire in Iraq is pretty valid.
He expresses the libertarian wing of the Republicans. Small government. Little intereference in anything.
The Republicans have gone big government.
He's also right that monetary policy (anything controlling the size of the money supply) is a much better solution than fiscal policy (cutting down expenditures).
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January 21st, 2008, 07:01 PM
[quote=darkbeaver;920604]I not surprised about your waiting talloola, nor am I surprised about you needing to be lead. Why don't you consider some alternative, instead of clinging to obvious tired old fantasys. You're old enough to know that you will never see substantial change with the same old players.When was it ever different in your lifetime? You got my recommendations on socialism and my ideas about capitalism, if you can't or won't read to save yourself why should I bother with you further? You like the circus, fine be satisfied with the clowns then.
Woah, prickly and sharp. Most of us look for others to lead, as most of us want that, as
most of us don't want the hassle and probably wouldn't be good at it. But we recognize
a leader when we see one, and I was just 'light heartily' giving you the nod. You have very
strong statements, seem to spend much of your life making sure you know what's going in
the areas you are interested, 'true democracy'. And, because we don't want to lead,
and wait and look for others to do it, doesn't mean that we are stupid, maybe a little
lazy and are more interested in our individual lives. But, we can make a decision who
we want to follow, 'or no't or no one, so that is not the description of a sheep, its
someone who makes a decision who they believe in or not, or no one.
So, then are you just someone who trashes and talks down to everyone, and then just
sits back, like most of us, and does nothing!!!! Do you just talk the talk, and never
walk the walk.
You might be just like the rest of us, only with a 'big mouth', and the ability to put
words together better than most.
[quote=darkbeaver;920604]I not surprised about your waiting talloola, nor am I surprised about you needing to be lead. Why don't you consider some alternative, instead of clinging to obvious tired old fantasys. You're old enough to know that you will never see substantial change with the same old players.When was it ever different in your lifetime? You got my recommendations on socialism and my ideas about capitalism, if you can't or won't read to save yourself why should I bother with you further? You like the circus, fine be satisfied with the clowns then.
Woah, prickly and sharp. Most of us look for others to lead, as most of us want that, as
most of us don't want the hassle and probably wouldn't be good at it. But we recognize
a leader when we see one, and I was just 'light heartily' giving you the nod. You have very
strong statements, seem to spend much of your life making sure you know what's going in
the areas you are interested, 'true democracy'. And, because we don't want to lead,
and wait and look for others to do it, doesn't mean that we are stupid, maybe a little
lazy and are more interested in our individual lives. But, we can make a decision who
we want to follow, 'or no't or no one, so that is not the description of a sheep, its
someone who makes a decision who they believe in or not, or no one.
So, then are you just someone who trashes and talks down to everyone, and then just
sits back, like most of us, and does nothing!!!! Do you just talk the talk, and never
walk the walk.
You might be just like the rest of us, only with a 'big mouth', and the ability to put
words together better than most.
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January 21st, 2008, 08:50 PM
The big mouth part is decidedly true, my mother always told me it would get me killed someday. Follow Castro and Chavez, Market Capitalism is almost dead, maybe as early as tomorrow, however they will plunge the world into war to save thenselves, with no concern for mankind.
I simply do not understand how you can possibly have any confidence in American politics or politicians or the capitalists, when the smoke clears we will all see the proof of theft of billions and we will clearly see what has destroyed America and it most definately has not been the socialists.
The big mouth part is decidedly true, my mother always told me it would get me killed someday. Follow Castro and Chavez, Market Capitalism is almost dead, maybe as early as tomorrow, however they will plunge the world into war to save thenselves, with no concern for mankind.
I simply do not understand how you can possibly have any confidence in American politics or politicians or the capitalists, when the smoke clears we will all see the proof of theft of billions and we will clearly see what has destroyed America and it most definately has not been the socialists.
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January 22nd, 2008, 12:00 AM
and there will be no change.
Don't want to see any more Clintens or Bushs, let them ride off into the sunset, never to
be seen again.
John Edwards is a good guy, good looking too, would make a good president too, but
the people get caught up in a two way race, and won't give him a chance, too bad.
Quoting darkbeaver
I have no confidence in American politics, but I'm saving a little hope for Obama, as someone comes along sometimes who makes a difference, so I am wondering and hoping if he will do that. If the Clintens make it to the presidency, there will be two presidents,
The big mouth part is decidedly true, my mother always told me or politicians or the capitalists, when the smoke clears we will all see the proof of theft of billions and we will clearly see what has destroyed America and it most definately has not been the socialists.
and there will be no change.
Don't want to see any more Clintens or Bushs, let them ride off into the sunset, never to
be seen again.
John Edwards is a good guy, good looking too, would make a good president too, but
the people get caught up in a two way race, and won't give him a chance, too bad.
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January 22nd, 2008, 12:12 AM
When you analyze what Mr. Paul is saying you can see why the Republican National Committee doesn't even want to hear his name. he stands for everything in the description of the Republican system stands for and that right now as demonstrated by the Republican leader George Bush is not the way they want things to go. There are some well funded political groups who are pushing hard for his success and while the chances are slim he sure has a lot of US big wigs watching him closely. The US needs a thorough shake up from top to bottom. It is now one of the most corrupt governments in the western hemisphere.
When you analyze what Mr. Paul is saying you can see why the Republican National Committee doesn't even want to hear his name. he stands for everything in the description of the Republican system stands for and that right now as demonstrated by the Republican leader George Bush is not the way they want things to go. There are some well funded political groups who are pushing hard for his success and while the chances are slim he sure has a lot of US big wigs watching him closely. The US needs a thorough shake up from top to bottom. It is now one of the most corrupt governments in the western hemisphere.
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January 22nd, 2008, 06:53 PM
[quote=normbc9;920722]There are some well funded political groups who are pushing hard for his success and while the chances are slim he sure has a lot of US big wigs watching him closely.
I enjoy watching him in the republican debates, as they cringe when he speaks, and make
fun of him, but I also notice when he is finished speaking, there is quite a good applause,
he has his followers. He is disgusted at the debt the present government has built up, he knows it is from the military expenditures, as we all do. He is complete opposite to
John McCain who will carry on the wars till finally there is a war on U.S. soil. He is a
lifetime soldier, can't seem to think any other way, that's pitiful.
[quote=normbc9;920722]There are some well funded political groups who are pushing hard for his success and while the chances are slim he sure has a lot of US big wigs watching him closely.
I enjoy watching him in the republican debates, as they cringe when he speaks, and make
fun of him, but I also notice when he is finished speaking, there is quite a good applause,
he has his followers. He is disgusted at the debt the present government has built up, he knows it is from the military expenditures, as we all do. He is complete opposite to
John McCain who will carry on the wars till finally there is a war on U.S. soil. He is a
lifetime soldier, can't seem to think any other way, that's pitiful.
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January 22nd, 2008, 08:30 PM
Out of all these honorable gentlemen..and lady+her husband....
Ron Paul...the most conservative
The most make-sense candidate
The most different
and the most truthful candidate
I want to see what he can make of United States, either bad or good because right now all the candidates are (*&@$(@%.
[Sorry, I'm ticked off because I still have about 60 years to live and I would like United States of America to have an amazing president for future... Our future depend on it.]
p.s.
I--too--weeped before Mr. Paul...its like seeing new world ahead of us.
Quote:
[I hope it stays lol]
Okay, let's put it this way.
I DON'T LIKE BIG GOVERNMENT
I DON'T LIKE HILLARY AND HER BIG GOVERNMENT POLICY
I DON'T LIKE OBA...WHAT? AND HIS STUPID "CHANGE" POLICY, IT GETS MY BLOOD MOVING BUT THAT'S JUST SENTIMENTAL
I DON'T like JOHN McCain Fries BECAUSE HIS NUTS AND HE WILL JUST MAKE ANOTHER LITTLE MR.BUSH
I DON'T LIKE RUDY SINCE hIS A LIAR
I DOn'T LIKE ROMNEY...JUST BECAUSE HIS MORMAN..AND STUFF LIKE HE LOVES EVERYTHING PRIVATIZED AND GIVE COMPANIES SO MUCH MORE FREEDOm [a.k.a. Big Dudes]
I...AM AT MIDDLE GROUND WITH HUCKABEE BUT I STILL DON'T LIKE HIM SINCE HIS LIKE MINOR VERSION OF JOHN McCain Fries.
I DON'T LIKE BIG GOVERNMENT
I DON'T LIKE HILLARY AND HER BIG GOVERNMENT POLICY
I DON'T LIKE OBA...WHAT? AND HIS STUPID "CHANGE" POLICY, IT GETS MY BLOOD MOVING BUT THAT'S JUST SENTIMENTAL
I DON'T like JOHN McCain Fries BECAUSE HIS NUTS AND HE WILL JUST MAKE ANOTHER LITTLE MR.BUSH
I DON'T LIKE RUDY SINCE hIS A LIAR
I DOn'T LIKE ROMNEY...JUST BECAUSE HIS MORMAN..AND STUFF LIKE HE LOVES EVERYTHING PRIVATIZED AND GIVE COMPANIES SO MUCH MORE FREEDOm [a.k.a. Big Dudes]
I...AM AT MIDDLE GROUND WITH HUCKABEE BUT I STILL DON'T LIKE HIM SINCE HIS LIKE MINOR VERSION OF JOHN McCain Fries.
Out of all these honorable gentlemen..and lady+her husband....
Ron Paul...the most conservative
The most make-sense candidate
The most different
and the most truthful candidate
I want to see what he can make of United States, either bad or good because right now all the candidates are (*&@$(@%.
[Sorry, I'm ticked off because I still have about 60 years to live and I would like United States of America to have an amazing president for future... Our future depend on it.]
p.s.
I--too--weeped before Mr. Paul...its like seeing new world ahead of us.
